What to do when a lease member shoots a buck on the no hit list ?

[sweetinlow660]

Sounds like the lease member did nothing wrong to me. As a lease manager if you are going to get upset about deer being shot that are on the no shoot list, the no shoot list has to be rock solid and concrete. You can't say 5.5 and older to also include deer placed on the don't shoot list and then NOT make it clear to ALL lease members that the deer is DEFINITELY on the no shoot list.

[Hoss163]

I’d say if some of you decide a buck gets a mandatory pass you might want to tel everybody else on the lease or else the normal 5.5 age rule applies. In my opinion you can’t come to him after he shot the deer and punish him if you didn’t tell him.

He new trust me .. He made a mistake I understand that and that mistake I can partly be to blame I guess because we discussed it one night around camp about maybe taking him off but that was never a hell yes we are taking him off 1st one sees him shoots

[sweetinlow660]

We had this happen last year. Took his keys and escorted him out the gate.

Why? Because he followed the rules as agreed upon? Or were you talking about the Lease Manager being escorted off the property.

[JeffK]

If discussed with him that this deer is off limits even though he is 5.5, I would say that this is his trophy for next season if all other member agree to this.


If he did not share that he shot/wounded one of the trophy deer, I think this could get you kicked off of a lease that has limited deer that meet trophy status. I'm guessing he did share if one of the other members knew about it?

[sweetinlow660]

I would say people are being a little hard on lease boss. Trying to grow bigger deer is a hard thing. Now with that being said, the rules are a little murky. Lease boss needs to clean the list up a bit before next season. When you have multiple people on a lease, the rules need to be clear. Not only the rule, but the penalty for breaking that rules needs to be written down as well.

After reading this, I could see maybe letting him off the hook because of the rules. But Lease boss dropped a bomb when he said that the hunter shot the buck and lost him and never told anyone.. That is a big NONO. He has to go. If a guy does that, he will do it again. No one can trust a guy like that. Get rid of him and move on. CLEAN UP THE RULES. Make sure everyone knows that there will be deer put on the NO SHOOT list. Might consider just having a Kill List. Deer on this list can be killed Regardless of age. If a new deer shows up, film him and get him approved.

But Guy has to go for shooting a deer and not telling anyone that he did and lost him. Not that it was a 5.5 year old on no shoot list.

Now I can agree with this. I guess I missed the didn't recover the deer part of the story some how. Everyone wounds an animal but if he didn't mention it to the members it seems like he may have had an idea that the deer wasn't 100% on the approved list.

[fishinguy]

Sounds like there is a communication problem more so than a problem with a member. Sounds like way too much drama for a fun leisure activity. Now everybody can take sides and talk crap behind each others back. Sounds like a great way to open the season.

[Setxbowhunter58]

Well another problem is he never recovered the buck but another lease member caught wind of him shooting the buck ! And was asking since when do we shoot bucks that are not on the No Kill list ! Of course we didn’t have a clue what was going on !!


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dude......you just gave me the biggest headache. Sounds to me like a very unorganized situation that should have been solidified before the season.

[gingib]

If everyone makes a list together and he chose he didnt need to follow it...then CYA!!

It takes everyone on the same page

[trozy55]

Sounds like you were coming on here with your mind already made up and seeking some form of self validation. You were completely wavering in the beginning and sounded like a dang politician taking different angles to make your way. Then as most pointed out there may be more of a communication problem than anything you started taking more of a stand. Now you sound 100% that the deer in question was a no shooter agreed by all.

So why come on a public forum and ask for thought on a question to which you already had your mind made up on?

[Hoss163]

His argument it was 5.5 and that was a rule set in stone 5.5 is good to go but we ALL agreed before season we would let this buck ride tell 6.5 !! Other members are ****** he shot the buck I’m not jealous of him shooting him I wouldn’t of shot him myself so y’all that think I’m mad because I didn’t shoot him are all wrong! Other members wanted to shoot him but they New he was off limits is the bottom line !!


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[Hoss163]

Sounds like you were coming on here with your mind already made up and seeking some form of self validation. You were completely wavering in the beginning and sounded like a dang politician taking different angles to make your way. Then as most pointed out there may be more of a communication problem than anything you started taking more of a stand. Now you sound 100% that the deer in question was a no shooter agreed by all.

So why come on a public forum and ask for thought on a question to which you already had your mind made up on?

Just conversation why does anyone start a conversation when they have there mind made up on what they believe? Just gathering everyone else’s thoughts is all every one has a different opinion!


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[AHF]

At my lease... If its brown it is down 😜

[sweetinlow660]

Knew

[RF76]

Bingo and he was on the no shoot list and never taken off of it !!!

No shoot list


Shoot list


What if there is a 5.5 year old buck that you never seen or have history with showing up, do you supposed to let him walk.

[OleTomTalker]

I'm not even getting in the confusion of lists and no lists.....

He shot a deer, lost it, and then wasn't going to tell anyone except he got busted???

That's same as lieing to me and that is a reason to be kicked out!