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    #31
    Originally posted by Death from Above View Post
    Drive to Canada one a year. Pull oil plug and drive back. Gonna be out some more money but i bet it will be a joyful drive ….


    Hate to read these type threads and for 14k…people get cut lol
    While it may not be feasible, I think this is probably the best option of getting something out of the deal.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Death from Above View Post
      Drive to Canada one a year. Pull oil plug and drive back. Gonna be out some more money but i bet it will be a joyful drive ….


      Hate to read these type threads and for 14k…people get cut lol
      This isn't right. Maybe if pulling drain plug on Canadian officials that kept shutting everything down but not the outfitter.

      Can you guys explain how outfitters should have been running their business pre-covid (before anyone saw covid BS coming)?

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        #33
        I would check with Canadian law, he may of filed for chapter reorganization. Just because he bankrupted doesn’t mean he didn’t reopen under another name.

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          #34
          Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
          This isn't right. Maybe if pulling drain plug on Canadian officials that kept shutting everything down but not the outfitter.

          Can you guys explain how outfitters should have been running their business pre-covid (before anyone saw covid BS coming)?
          Not sure anyone could’ve foreseen but Canada being full blown socialist wanted to shut everyone down taking out the mom and pops leaving only government run/involved big business in place. Text book play book agenda chit right there. US leaders wanted/want the same.

          Anyhoo to get back on subject and off my political beliefs I understand how outfitters use future monies to cover real time cost, it’s like mobe charges on bigger dirt/roadway work, standard logistics against future contract work. Same thing on a different scale. But..the outfit I booked is still in business as far as what his emails conveyed and through the org I bought the trip from at the banquet. He’s in the wrong as much as the OP’s guy is for not owning up to it at the very least. Life happens but that’s not the way to handle it by just shutting him out. Man uo and at least acknowledge the reason as to why. He’s just another pos fly by night if he can’t at least give the people an honest answer he took money from the respect of an apology thru a phone call.

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            #35
            Originally posted by stevieray54 View Post
            I would check with Canadian law, he may of filed for chapter reorganization. Just because he bankrupted doesn’t mean he didn’t reopen under another name.
            This right here. Dictionary definition of a fly by night no matter if it’s his first time or tenth. Changing entity name only means you screwed somebody.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Texashookset View Post
              Not sure anyone could’ve foreseen but Canada being full blown socialist wanted to shut everyone down taking out the mom and pops leaving only government run/involved big business in place. Text book play book agenda chit right there. US leaders wanted/want the same.

              Anyhoo to get back on subject and off my political beliefs I understand how outfitters use future monies to cover real time cost, it’s like mobe charges on bigger dirt/roadway work, standard logistics against future contract work. Same thing on a different scale. But..the outfit I booked is still in business as far as what his emails conveyed and through the org I bought the trip from at the banquet. He’s in the wrong as much as the OP’s guy is for not owning up to it at the very least. Life happens but that’s not the way to handle it by just shutting him out. Man uo and at least acknowledge the reason as to why. He’s just another pos fly by night if he can’t at least give the people an honest answer he took money from the respect of an apology thru a phone call.
              Hard to argue. But once bankrupt do you really care about the companies reputation? And as you said, the government shut him down. He's screwed more than hunters. Should he still call all clients after BK and say sorry while letting them all b!itch him out? This is all assuming he went BK and for reasons out of his control.

              If still in business and screwing hunters out of money then go pull drain plugs!

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                #37
                Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                Hard to argue. But once bankrupt do you really care about the companies reputation? And as you said, the government shut him down. He's screwed more than hunters. Should he still call all clients after BK and say sorry while letting them all b!itch him out? This is all assuming he went BK and for reasons out of his control.

                If still in business and screwing hunters out of money then go pull drain plugs!
                I’d take the bitchin but that’s the way I was raised and run my business. Not all phone calls are easy but it’s the right thing to do. Being honest is hard to do, really hard sometimes but it’s the right thing to do.

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                  #38
                  Update....The outfitter (Liard River Outfitters) has insurance so we are filing a claim against his business insurance.

                  To be an outfitter in Canada you either have to put up a surety bond or buy business insurance to cover loss. The outfitter association is helping us through the process, but they say there are a lot of outfitters that are closing the doors.


                  We did have a contract signed but it looks like it isn't worth the paper it was written on.

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                    #39
                    Great news bud and good for the outfitter. He is ultimately taking care of y’all in the end.

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                      #40
                      Screwed by outfitter…any recourse?

                      Man, hope you guys get made whole on this deal. Good luck. Going forward, I’d always suggest getting good quality trip insurance on ANY hunt. It’s saved me a couple of times.


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                        #41
                        Best of luck getting your money back!

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                          #42
                          Well good hope yall get something back.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by jaspermac View Post
                            Update....The outfitter (Liard River Outfitters) has insurance so we are filing a claim against his business insurance.

                            To be an outfitter in Canada you either have to put up a surety bond or buy business insurance to cover loss. The outfitter association is helping us through the process, but they say there are a lot of outfitters that are closing the doors.


                            We did have a contract signed but it looks like it isn't worth the paper it was written on.
                            They indicate why so many are closing? Glad y’all
                            Have a shot getting your money back.

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                              #44
                              Trip insurance is pretty cheap in the grand scheme.

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                                #45
                                I might have missed it- did you post the guides name and his co. for all of us to see?

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