AJ Hinch suspended for entire season?

[TexasBob]

So if they had someone in the stands with binoculars it would be fine? Is the camera what makes it a no go? What if the second baseman sees the sign and signals the batter? While they attempt to make the sign discretely, it is done in view of others. Just trying to understand the situation here

[TWOHunter]

So if they had someone in the stands with binoculars it would be fine? Is the camera what makes it a no go? What if the second baseman sees the sign and signals the batter? While they attempt to make the sign discretely, it is done in view of others. Just trying to understand the situation here

The opponents 2nd baseman ???

[TexasBob]

The opponents 2nd baseman ???

Ok fair point. I feel dumb- what if we have a runner on second was where my mind is. Point being other folks can see the sign. Trying to learn the rule that was broken here.

[Jcjohnson]

Seems like the harsh discipline handed down by MLB is more about an attempt to keep it (sign stealing) from spinning out of control.

[CabezaBlanca]

Fired

Yep.

https://abc13.com/sports/astros-gm-manager-fired-after-2017-sign-stealing-investigation/5845395/

[jerp]

So if they had someone in the stands with binoculars it would be fine? Is the camera what makes it a no go? What if the second baseman sees the sign and signals the batter? While they attempt to make the sign discretely, it is done in view of others. Just trying to understand the situation here

I don't remember how long ago it was (2-3 years maybe?) but the league was definitely worried about sign stealing via new electronic/video technology. They put out a statement to all teams that high tech cheating would be dealt with harshly. Sign stealing the old fashion way - by runners on base - is still just considered part of the game.

[Low Fence]

So if they had someone in the stands with binoculars it would be fine? Is the camera what makes it a no go? What if the second baseman sees the sign and signals the batter? While they attempt to make the sign discretely, it is done in view of others. Just trying to understand the situation here

If you can steal and distinguish the sign with your eyes at 100+’ and signal the batter who’s locked on pitch about to have ball thrown +\- 100mph in the next 2 seconds... I got no problem with it

[TWOHunter]

Ok fair point. I feel dumb- what if we have a runner on second was where my mind is. Point being other folks can see the sign. Trying to learn the rule that was broken here.

The major issue is that someone with the Astros deliberately went out of their way to intentionally setup a live feed camera to always 100% of the time see the sign given by the catcher and that live feed was sent to a monitor in the hallway dugout and an Astros person would audibly send a signal by banging on a trashcan to relay what pitch was coming to the Astros batter.

[sierracharlie338]

My question is who decides placement of the cameras? Who though a camera directly facing home zoomed in so much you can see the catchers hand was a good idea?

What’s that old adage if ya ain’t cheating ya ain’t trying? Lol. That’s pro sports for ya I guess. Smh


Sierracharlie out…

[rtp]

I don't remember how long ago it was (2-3 years maybe?) but the league was definitely worried about sign stealing via new electronic/video technology. They put out a statement to all teams that high tech cheating would be dealt with harshly. Sign stealing the old fashion way - by runners on base - is still just considered part of the game.

That was 2017 when NY and Boston were both caught using technology to cheat. Apparently it only was worthy of a slap on the wrist then because of said parties. Now it is like someone beat up someone's Grandma.

Oh well, I always have said if you are going to break the rules or the law be prepared to pay the consequences. The Astros are paying big time for their indiscretion.

[TWOHunter]

My question is who decides placement of the cameras? Who though a camera directly facing home zoomed in so much you can see the catchers hand was a good idea?

What’s that old adage if ya ain’t cheating ya ain’t trying? Lol. That’s pro sports for ya I guess. Smh


Sierracharlie out…

It wasn’t a network camera feed.
It was a separate live feed camera setup just to cheat.

[jerp]

Do you think Nolan bolted when he found out about it or because he realized the scheme was about to be exposed?

[xman59]

well that should free up some money anyway!

[sierracharlie338]

It wasn’t a network camera feed.
It was a separate live feed camera setup just to cheat.

Ahhhhhh that makes more sense. Although I did see some network cameras that were showing the same thing. Then after the accusations came that view went away.


Sierracharlie out…

[Grayson]

Do you think Nolan bolted when he found out about it or because he realized the scheme was about to be exposed?

Didn't they demote his son in favor of the owner's son? I thought that was why he left.