Venezuala - You Following?

[sir shovelhands]

Apples and oranges.

A: However narrow, Bush won by constitutionally legal means. Maduro's 2018 election was rife with fraud. Considering he won his first election by less than 2%, and having helped create a humanitarian crisis in his own country within 6 years, he wins over 66%? Sounds legit. Dead people voting and more registered voters in a city than population

B: Bush did not give himself power to "rule by decree" as Maduro has, effectively making himself a King and making the constitution and the courts his *****. Executive privilege and a pen

C: Bush didn't steal a ton of money from the government (though might have through no-bid Halliburton contracts). insert Obama and Hillary

Item by item you just described Obama to a T.
Do you realize what you have done?

While I don't care for Obama, I've been unable to find any hard evidence of direct theft from the government while in office, though there is some evidence that actions he took regarding regulation directly benefited friends which may have allowed for return favors once leaving office. Hillary on the other hand seems to have benefited significantly from her tenure as SecState.

I've spent a good amount of searching for evidence of widespread voter fraud and been unable to find much beyond hearsay that is often uncorroborated. Hell, Kris Kobach, the main proponent of the massive voter fraud theory couldn't come up with any meaningful evidence to corroborate his theory. He was torn apart in court because his data was garbage.

I agree on executive privilege overreach, but as we've seen that can be overturned by the next guy in office / congress / SC and is limited. I think EP is a legal grey area that needs proper definition by congress or the SC.

[cuttingedge]

WWIII In the making. Everybody everywhere is drawing lines in the sand. Once one of them militarily backs one or the other it will be on like Donkey Kong.

[Man]

WWIII In the making. Everybody everywhere is drawing lines in the sand. .

Hopefully we have cleaned up all the mess leftover from the civil war here before we having to shift focus to WWIII.

[wolfslair]

I tried to make this point to a few of the young bucks at work who think socialism is great. But, they are stupid so didn't do much good.

It will get violent down there, he is done but not with out a.fight.
Many people will die but a quote I read was something like this
Die fighting or die starving to death.....I'm going to fight.

The public fool system, VH1 and MTV have poisoned their minds well.

[SmTx]

I heard Instagram removed the verified account check from his account sooooo I'd say he's super done

[texansfan]

While I don't care for Obama, I've been unable to find any hard evidence of direct theft from the government while in office, though there is some evidence that actions he took regarding regulation directly benefited friends which may have allowed for return favors once leaving office. Hillary on the other hand seems to have benefited significantly from her tenure as SecState.

I've spent a good amount of searching for evidence of widespread voter fraud and been unable to find much beyond hearsay that is often uncorroborated. Hell, Kris Kobach, the main proponent of the massive voter fraud theory couldn't come up with any meaningful evidence to corroborate his theory. He was torn apart in court because his data was garbage.

I agree on executive privilege overreach, but as we've seen that can be overturned by the next guy in office / congress / SC and is limited. I think EP is a legal grey area that needs proper definition by congress or the SC.

Tons of voter fraud evidence in North Carolina that's exactly why the recent voting results can not be certified by a judge.
One guy single handedly orchestrated the voter fraud.
Look it up

[texansfan]

[quote=muzzlebrake;13949028]

Apples and oranges.

A: However narrow, Bush won by constitutionally legal means. Maduro's 2018 election was rife with fraud. Considering he won his first election by less than 2%, and having helped create a humanitarian crisis in his own country within 6 years, he wins over 66%? Sounds legit. Dead people voting and more registered voters in a city than population

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I'll concede dead people voting because Dowliss has utilized that tactic:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article222806255.html

But more registered voters than a city population you'll need to cite specific examples.
Do you understand how silly that sounds when 40-50% of a city population is usually under the age of 18?

Please provide verifiable links.

[texansfan]

US embassy was told they have 72 hours to clear out.

Trump I'd telling the embassy workers to stay put because they can't use govt aircraft during the shutdown.
This is dumb.
Now they are sitting ducks on their compound and Maduro can easily cut electricity and all other resources to the compound and essentially create a Benghazi 2.0 for trump.

We could be essentially watching Americans die because of POTUS incompetence and bravado.

Socialism be dammed.

[Playa]

Trump I'd telling the embassy workers to stay put because they can't use govt aircraft during the shutdown.
This is dumb.
Now they are sitting ducks on their compound and Maduro can easily cut electricity and all other resources to the compound and essentially create a Benghazi 2.0 for trump.

We could be essentially watching Americans die because of POTUS incompetence and bravado.

Socialism be dammed.

I get what you are saying, and surely there are emergency measures in a shut down to protect diplomats and staff. But there is a lot less hate for America in Caracas than in Benghazi.

Surely our embassies have emergency power off the grid of their host countries

[sir shovelhands]

Tons of voter fraud evidence in North Carolina that's exactly why the recent voting results can not be certified by a judge.
One guy single handedly orchestrated the voter fraud.
Look it up

I'm aware of that. I also said widespread voter fraud. I don't consider voter fraud in a single small county to be a widespread coordinated effort.

[texansfan]

I get what you are saying, and surely there are emergency measures in a shut down to protect diplomats and staff. But there is a lot less hate for America in Caracas than in Benghazi.

Surely our embassies have emergency power off the grid of their host countries

How long can those generators run? I take it they are not solar powered and need fossil fuels.
Maduro controls those.

We're about to see what'sgoing to happen really soon.
If this guy will starve his own people what do you think he'll do to our embassy workers?