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    Greetings Texas Bow Hunters et al,

    i thought i should post a cwd tse prion update here.

    please don't let the blog scare you, the science is real, peer review in the blogs i post, and some confidential data. i do not advertise or make money from this, it's for educational use, please use as you wish. you need to be informed. make your own minds up with the science. legislative actions on cwd tse prion must be based on sound science.

    here goes, it's not pretty, so don't shoot the messenger, i am full of holes...terry


    WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 03, 2018

    Texas Reports 13 more cases of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD TSE Prion in Breeder Deer state total jumps to 130 Confirmed to date



    in this next link, see the updated information on the cwd vaccine...terry

    SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2018

    cwd, bse, scrapie, cjd, tse prion updated November 10 2018




    THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2018

    ***> Norway New additional requirements for imports of hay and straw for animal feed from countries outside the EEA due to CWD TSE Prion




    THURSDAY, OCTOBER 04, 2018

    ***> Cervid to human prion transmission 5R01NS088604-04 Update




    kind regards, terry
    Last edited by flounder9; 11-13-2018, 12:54 PM. Reason: word spelling correction

    #2
    Flounder, the deer farmers here will hammer you too.

    I myself appreciate your post on the subject.

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      #3
      Most folks in Texas are just gonna stick their fingers in their ears and yell nananananana.
      Scary stuff but not ready to freak out quite yet. But I will continue to have deer tested in hot zones.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Stoof View Post
        Most folks in Texas are just gonna stick their fingers in their ears and yell nananananana.
        Scary stuff but not ready to freak out quite yet. But I will continue to have deer tested in hot zones.
        and it doesn't help when idiots like Keith Warren are out their screaming it is all fake because he's getting paid by every deer breeder association in the country.

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          #5
          It is scarry stuff

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            #6
            Very scary. Need to strongly consider shutting down deer breeding. It’s probably in the wild population by now.


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              #7
              Can someone please tell me who the first fatality is from this?

              I would not eat meat from any obviously suspect/sick/staggering deer. Sure have eaten a bunch from other deer though!!!!

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                #8
                I think the bigger picture is bringing CWD into Texas by deer breeders, knowing it’s going to jump into the wild population.


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                  #9
                  Chronic wasting disease tse prion update

                  Originally posted by Brannon74 View Post
                  Very scary. Need to strongly consider shutting down deer breeding. It’s probably in the wild population by now.


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                  It’s been in the wild
                  Deer population for years. The only reason they find CWD cases in breeding ranches is because they’re testing almost 100 of the deer that die. The first CWD positive come
                  From a mule deer in West Texas. This isn’t a deer breeding problem it’s just easier to find in breeding facilities.

                  Ask the king ranch if they’re willing to pull brain stems from 100% of the deer that die or are killed in their ranch. They won’t because deep down, the last thing they want is a positive test coming off their place. So instead they’re going to sit on a board of experts and wave a flag saying they’re only trying to protect texas’ deer.... so again, why aren’t they testing?


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                  Last edited by kyle1974; 11-14-2018, 05:23 AM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tejas Wildlife View Post
                    Can someone please tell me who the first fatality is from this?

                    I would not eat meat from any obviously suspect/sick/staggering deer. Sure have eaten a bunch from other deer though!!!!
                    there are many imo, one was too many for me i.e. mom hvcjd confirmed i.e. exceedingly rare sub strain of the infamous sporadic cjd's. science shows, and scientist believe, that cwd will look like sporadic cjd in humans. personally, i don't care what anyone eats, to each his own, bbbut, when what someone eats threatens my family down the line via friendly fire or the iatrogenic mode of transmission, then it is time to be concerned, imo. i am a meat eater, however, i don't want to eat tse prions, you should not either, tse prions can kill you...

                    just so's ya'll know, see;


                    the tse prion aka mad cow type disease is not your normal pathogen.

                    The TSE prion disease survives ashing to 600 degrees celsius, that’s around 1112 degrees farenheit.

                    you cannot cook the TSE prion disease out of meat.

                    you can take the ash and mix it with saline and inject that ash into a mouse, and the mouse will go down with TSE.

                    Prion Infected Meat-and-Bone Meal Is Still Infectious after Biodiesel Production as well.

                    the TSE prion agent also survives Simulated Wastewater Treatment Processes.

                    IN fact, you should also know that the TSE Prion agent will survive in the environment for years, if not decades.

                    you can bury it and it will not go away.

                    The TSE agent is capable of infected your water table i.e. Detection of protease-resistant cervid prion protein in water from a CWD-endemic area.

                    it’s not your ordinary pathogen you can just cook it out and be done with.

                    ***> that’s what’s so worrisome about Iatrogenic mode of transmission, a simple autoclave will not kill this TSE prion agent.

                    1: J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1994 Jun;57(6):757-8

                    ***> Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease to a chimpanzee by electrodes contaminated during neurosurgery.

                    Gibbs CJ Jr, Asher DM, Kobrine A, Amyx HL, Sulima MP, Gajdusek DC.

                    Laboratory of Central Nervous System Studies, National Institute of

                    Neurological Disorders and Stroke, National Institutes of Health,

                    Bethesda, MD 20892.

                    Stereotactic multicontact electrodes used to probe the cerebral cortex of a middle aged woman with progressive dementia were previously implicated in the accidental transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) to two younger patients. The diagnoses of CJD have been confirmed for all three cases. More than two years after their last use in humans, after three cleanings and repeated sterilisation in ethanol and formaldehyde vapour, the electrodes were implanted in the cortex of a chimpanzee. Eighteen months later the animal became ill with CJD. This finding serves to re-emphasise the potential danger posed by reuse of instruments contaminated with the agents of spongiform encephalopathies, even after scrupulous attempts to clean them.

                    PMID: 8006664 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

                    Stereotactic multicontact electrodes used to probe the cerebral cortex of a middle aged woman with progressive dementia were previously implicated in the accidental transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) to two younger patients. The diagnoses of CJD have been confirmed for all three cases. …



                    Cervid to human prion transmission

                    Kong, Qingzhong

                    Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH, United States

                    Abstract

                    Prion disease is transmissible and invariably fatal. Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is the prion disease affecting deer, elk and moose, and it is a widespread and expanding epidemic affecting 22 US States and 2 Canadian provinces so far. CWD poses the most serious zoonotic prion transmission risks in North America because of huge venison consumption (>6 million deer/elk hunted and consumed annually in the USA alone), significant prion infectivity in muscles and other tissues/fluids from CWD-affected cervids, and usually high levels of individual exposure to CWD resulting from consumption of the affected animal among often just family and friends. However, we still do not know whether CWD prions can infect humans in the brain or peripheral tissues or whether clinical/asymptomatic CWD zoonosis has already occurred, and we have no essays to reliably detect CWD infection in humans.

                    We hypothesize that:

                    (1) The classic CWD prion strain can infect humans at low levels in the brain and peripheral lymphoid tissues;

                    (2) The cervid-to-human transmission barrier is dependent on the cervid prion strain and influenced by the host (human) prion protein (PrP) primary sequence;

                    (3) Reliable essays can be established to detect CWD infection in humans; and

                    (4) CWD transmission to humans has already occurred. We will test these hypotheses in 4 Aims using transgenic (Tg) mouse models and complementary in vitro approaches.

                    Aim 1 will prove that the classical CWD strain may infect humans in brain or peripheral lymphoid tissues at low levels by conducting systemic bioassays in a set of humanized Tg mouse lines expressing common human PrP variants using a number of CWD isolates at varying doses and routes. Experimental human CWD samples will also be generated for Aim 3.

                    Aim 2 will test the hypothesis that the cervid-to-human prion transmission barrier is dependent on prion strain and influenced by the host (human) PrP sequence by examining and comparing the transmission efficiency and phenotypes of several atypical/unusual CWD isolates/strains as well as a few prion strains from other species that have adapted to cervid PrP sequence, utilizing the same panel of humanized Tg mouse lines as in Aim 1.

                    Aim 3 will establish reliable essays for detection and surveillance of CWD infection in humans by examining in details the clinical, pathological, biochemical and in vitro seeding properties of existing and future experimental human CWD samples generated from Aims 1-2 and compare them with those of common sporadic human Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (sCJD) prions.

                    Aim 4 will attempt to detect clinical CWD-affected human cases by examining a significant number of brain samples from prion-affected human subjects in the USA and Canada who have consumed venison from CWD-endemic areas utilizing the criteria and essays established in Aim 3. The findings from this proposal will greatly advance our understandings on the potential and characteristics of cervid prion transmission in humans, establish reliable essays for CWD zoonosis and potentially discover the first case(s) of CWD infection in humans.

                    Public Health Relevance

                    There are significant and increasing human exposure to cervid prions because chronic wasting disease (CWD, a widespread and highly infectious prion disease among deer and elk in North America) continues spreading and consumption of venison remains popular, but our understanding on cervid-to-human prion transmission is still very limited, raising public health concerns. This proposal aims to define the zoonotic risks of cervid prions and set up and apply essays to detect CWD zoonosis using mouse models and in vitro methods. The findings will greatly expand our knowledge on the potentials and characteristics of cervid prion transmission in humans, establish reliable essays for such infections and may discover the first case(s) of CWD infection in humans.

                    Funding Agency

                    Agency

                    National Institute of Health (NIH)

                    Institute

                    National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS)

                    Type

                    Research Project (R01)

                    Project #

                    5R01NS088604-04

                    Application #

                    9517118

                    Study Section

                    Cellular and Molecular Biology of Neurodegeneration Study Section (CMND)

                    Program Officer Wong, May

                    Project Start 2015-09-30 Project End 2019-07-31 Budget Start 2018-08-01 Budget End 2019-07-31 Support Year 4 Fiscal Year 2018 Total Cost Indirect Cost Institution Name Case Western Reserve University Department Pathology Type Schools of Medicine DUNS # 077758407 City Cleveland State OH Country United States Zip Code 44106

                    Related projects

                    NIH 2018 R01 NS Cervid to human prion transmission Kong, Qingzhong / Case Western Reserve University

                    NIH 2017 R01 NS Cervid to human prion transmission Kong, Qingzhong / Case Western Reserve University

                    NIH 2016 R01 NS Cervid to human prion transmission Kong, Qingzhong / Case Western Reserve University

                    NIH 2015 R01 NS Cervid to human prion transmission Kong, Qingzhong / Case Western Reserve University $337,507


                    Prion disease is transmissible and invariably fatal. Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is the prion disease affecting deer, elk and moose, and it is a widespread and expanding epidemic affecting 22 US Sta...



                    Taken together, there is strong evidence of transmissibility of CWD orally into macaques and from macaque tissues into transgenic mouse models, although with an incomplete attack rate. The clinical and pathological presentation in macaques was mostly atypical, with a strong emphasis on spinal cord pathology. Our ongoing studies will show whether the transmission of CWD into macaques and passage in transgenic mice represents a form of non-adaptive prion amplification, and whether macaque-adapted prions have the potential to infect mice expressing human PrP. The notion that CWD can be transmitted orally into both new-world and old-world non-human primates asks for a careful reevaluation of the zoonotic risk of CWD.

                    ***> The notion that CWD can be transmitted orally into both new-world and old-world non-human primates asks for a careful reevaluation of the zoonotic risk of CWD. <***



                    READING OVER THE PRION 2018 ABSTRACT BOOK, LOOKS LIKE THEY FOUND THAT from this study ;

                    P190 Human prion disease mortality rates by occurrence of chronic wasting disease in freeranging cervids, United States

                    Abrams JY (1), Maddox RA (1), Schonberger LB (1), Person MK (1), Appleby BS (2), Belay ED (1) (1) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases, Atlanta, GA, USA (2) Case Western Reserve University, National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center (NPDPSC), Cleveland, OH, USA.

                    SEEMS THAT THEY FOUND Highly endemic states had a higher rate of prion disease mortality compared to non-CWD states.

                    AND ANOTHER STUDY;

                    P172 Peripheral Neuropathy in Patients with Prion Disease

                    Wang H(1), Cohen M(1), Appleby BS(1,2) (1) University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center, Cleveland, Ohio (2) National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center, Cleveland, Ohio..

                    IN THIS STUDY, THERE WERE autopsy-proven prion cases from the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center that were diagnosed between September 2016 to March 2017, AND included 104 patients.

                    SEEMS THEY FOUND THAT The most common sCJD subtype was MV1-2 (30%), followed by MM1-2 (20%), AND THAT The Majority of cases were male (60%), AND half of them had exposure to wild game.

                    snip...see more on Prion 2017 Macaque study from Prion 2017 Conference and other updated science on cwd tse prion zoonosis below...terry





                    Prion 2017

                    Conference Abstracts CWD 2017 PRION CONFERENCE

                    First evidence of intracranial and peroral transmission of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) into Cynomolgus macaques: a work in progress

                    Stefanie Czub1, Walter Schulz-Schaeffer2, Christiane Stahl-Hennig3, Michael Beekes4, Hermann Schaetzl5 and Dirk Motzkus6 1

                    University of Calgary Faculty of Veterinary Medicine/Canadian Food Inspection Agency; 2Universitatsklinikum des Saarlandes und Medizinische Fakultat der Universitat des Saarlandes; 3 Deutsches Primaten Zentrum/Goettingen; 4 Robert-Koch-Institut Berlin; 5 University of Calgary Faculty of Veterinary Medicine; 6 presently: Boehringer Ingelheim Veterinary Research Center; previously: Deutsches Primaten Zentrum/Goettingen

                    This is a progress report of a project which started in 2009. 21 cynomolgus macaques were challenged with characterized CWD material from white-tailed deer (WTD) or elk by intracerebral (ic), oral, and skin exposure routes. Additional blood transfusion experiments are supposed to assess the CWD contamination risk of human blood product. Challenge materials originated from symptomatic cervids for ic, skin scarification and partially per oral routes (WTD brain). Challenge material for feeding of muscle derived from preclinical WTD and from preclinical macaques for blood transfusion experiments. We have confirmed that the CWD challenge material contained at least two different CWD agents (brain material) as well as CWD prions in muscle-associated nerves. Here we present first data on a group of animals either challenged ic with steel wires or per orally and sacrificed with incubation times ranging from 4.5 to 6.9 years at postmortem. Three animals displayed signs of mild clinical disease, including anxiety, apathy, ataxia and/or tremor. In four animals wasting was observed, two of those had confirmed diabetes. All animals have variable signs of prion neuropathology in spinal cords and brains and by supersensitive IHC, reaction was detected in spinal cord segments of all animals. Protein misfolding cyclic amplification (PMCA), real-time quaking-induced conversion (RT-QuiC) and PET-blot assays to further substantiate these findings are on the way, as well as bioassays in bank voles and transgenic mice. At present, a total of 10 animals are sacrificed and read-outs are ongoing. Preclinical incubation of the remaining macaques covers a range from 6.4 to 7.10 years. Based on the species barrier and an incubation time of > 5 years for BSE in macaques and about 10 years for scrapie in macaques, we expected an onset of clinical disease beyond 6 years post inoculation.

                    PRION 2017

                    DECIPHERING NEURODEGENERATIVE DISORDERS

                    Subject: PRION 2017 CONFERENCE DECIPHERING NEURODEGENERATIVE DISORDERS VIDEO

                    PRION 2017

                    CONFERENCE DECIPHERING NEURODEGENERATIVE DISORDERS

                    *** PRION 2017 CONFERENCE VIDEO

                    https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vtt1kAVDhDQ http://prion2017.org/programme/




                    just out CDC...see;

                    Research

                    Susceptibility of Human Prion Protein to Conversion by Chronic Wasting Disease Prions

                    Marcelo A. BarriaComments to Author , Adriana Libori, Gordon Mitchell, and Mark W. Head Author affiliations: National CJD Research and Surveillance Unit, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (M.A. Barria, A. Libori, M.W. Head); National and OIE Reference Laboratory for Scrapie and CWD, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (G. Mitchell)

                    M. A. Barria et al.

                    ABSTRACT

                    Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is a contagious and fatal neurodegenerative disease and a serious animal health issue for deer and elk in North America. The identification of the first cases of CWD among free-ranging reindeer and moose in Europe brings back into focus the unresolved issue of whether CWD can be zoonotic like bovine spongiform encephalopathy. We used a cell-free seeded protein misfolding assay to determine whether CWD prions from elk, white-tailed deer, and reindeer in North America can convert the human prion protein to the disease-associated form. We found that prions can convert, but the efficiency of conversion is affected by polymorphic variation in the cervid and human prion protein genes. In view of the similarity of reindeer, elk, and white-tailed deer in North America to reindeer, red deer, and roe deer, respectively, in Europe, a more comprehensive and thorough assessment of the zoonotic potential of CWD might be warranted.



                    Molecular Barriers to Zoonotic Transmission of Prions

                    Marcelo A. Barria, Aru Balachandran, Masanori Morita, Tetsuyuki Kitamoto, Rona Barron, Jean Manson, Richard Knight, James W. Ironside, and Mark W. Headcorresponding author

                    snip...

                    The conversion of human PrPC by CWD brain homogenate in PMCA reactions was less efficient when the amino acid at position 129 was valine rather than methionine.

                    ***Furthermore, the form of human PrPres produced in this in vitro assay when seeded with CWD, resembles that found in the most common human prion disease, namely sCJD of the MM1 subtype.

                    snip...

                    However, we can say with confidence that under the conditions used here, none of the animal isolates tested were as efficient as C-type BSE in converting human PrPC, which is reassuring.

                    ***Less reassuring is the finding that there is no absolute barrier to the conversion of human PrPC by CWD prions in a protocol using a single round of PMCA and an entirely human substrate prepared from the target organ of prion diseases, the brain.




                    kind regards, terry

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
                      It’s been in the wild
                      Deer population for years. The only reason they find CWD cases in breeding ranches is because they’re testing almost 100 of the deer that die. The first CWD positive come
                      From a mule deer in West Texas. This isn’t a deer breeding problem it’s just easier to find in breeding facilities.

                      Ask the king ranch if they’re willing to pull brain stems from 100% of the deer that die or are killed in their ranch. They won’t because deep down, the last thing they want is a positive test coming off their place. So instead they’re going to sit on a board of experts and wave a flag saying they’re only trying to protect texas’ deer.... so again, why aren’t they testing?


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                      in Minnesota and other states, that 100% cwd testing in captive (LOL), reminds me also of the SSS policy. this SSS policy worked very well for Klein et al in Canada with BSE TSE Prion.


                      ''Alberta Premier Ralph Klein has taken aim at the owner of the province's infamous mad cow, saying a "self-respecting" rancher would not have taken the animal to slaughter but instead would have simply "shot, shovelled and shut up."


                      ...see;


                      Deer and elk producers are required by law to submit specific tissues for CWD testing for all deer and elk that die at age 12 months or older.3

                      ***>BAH staff do not currently analyze CWD-testing compliance, unless they have a specific reason to manually evaluate the records associated with a particular herd.

                      ***>We analyzed BAH data and found that an estimated one-third of deer and elk producers failed to submit tissue samples for CWD testing from 2014 to 2017.

                      ***>Another issue with respect to CWD sample submission is sample quality. If producers submit the wrong type of tissue or a sample that is otherwise unreadable, the deer or elk in question will not be tested for CWD.

                      ***>From 2014 to 2017, the percentage of unreadable samples increased from 2 percent to 11 percent. In 2017, BAH began retraining producers who had submitted poor-quality samples. As a result, sample quality began to improve during the latter half of 2017. We recommend that BAH develop a standardized training and approval program for deer and elk producers who wish to collect their own CWD test samples.

                      ***>It was recently reported that a Winona County cervid farm that tested positive for CWD also had fences in poor repair.4

                      ***> Despite the fact that the fences (by the owner’s own admission) had been sagging for years, BAH had never mentioned fence issues on the farm’s annual inspection reports.

                      We do not know the degree to which this type of apparent enforcement error has occurred, and this lapse in oversight is concerning. However, the new director of the deer and elk program has made numerous changes over the past several months that will hopefully improve BAH’s enforcement of deer and elk regulations going forward.

                      Recent BAH changes include improved communication, through the development of a cervid-farming handbook and a CWD-testing guide. The new director has also placed a renewed emphasis on enforcement, putting in place the expectation that the field staff inspecting cervid farms give warnings and reinspect farms when they note violations. We recommend that the board fully enforce Minnesota cervid laws and that they consider strengthening the penalties for producers who fail to comply. Further, the board should monitor the performance of field staff conducting inspections.

                      ***>The strained relationship between BAH and DNR has led to problems with data sharing.

                      BAH responds when CWD is detected on deer or elk farms; DNR leads the

                      4

                      Tony Kennedy, “‘Hunters should be…afraid,’” Star Tribune, March 7, 2018.

                      response when the disease is found in the wild. Both agencies, however, take certain actions when CWD is detected in the other agency’s jurisdiction, which means that the two must coordinate to a certain extent.

                      In order to respond to CWD outbreaks, each agency, at a minimum, must know the precise location where the infected animal was found. The tension between the two agencies, however, has resulted in poor communication and complaints from both sides with respect to sharing information.

                      ***>DNR staff have complained that BAH refuses to share information about infected farms in a timely fashion. BAH staff allege that DNR has not adequately protected producer contact information, which is classified by law as not public data.5

                      We recommend that the two agencies draft a memorandum of understanding making clear what information should be shared between agencies in the event of CWD outbreak, in what timeframe, and the measures the receiving agency should take to protect the data. BAH and DNR finalized an agreement on April 10, 2018, which focuses on protecting not public data. We think this is a good first step. There are some states with policies for managing farmed deer and elk that may better protect their animals from CWD.

                      Exhibit 3.2: Since 2002, Minnesota has had eleven chronic wasting disease events.

                      see chart below;

                      snip...see full text 76 pages;



                      captive game farms and 100% testing...LOL!

                      Iowa CWD





                      THURSDAY, MAY 17, 2018

                      Texas TAHC CWD TSE Prion Pay to Play Federal Indemnity Program, or what i call, ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM for Game Farm Industry



                      WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 03, 2018

                      Texas Reports 13 more cases of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD TSE Prion in Breeder Deer state total jumps to 130 Confirmed to date



                      Wednesday, September 28, 2016

                      TPWD CWD Sample Collector Trainings in the Trans Pecos and Panhandle



                      Wednesday, July 22, 2015

                      Texas Certified Chronic Wasting Disease CWD Sample Collector, like the Wolf Guarding the Henhouse



                      SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2018

                      Pennsylvania Thirty-Eight Deer Test Positive for Chronic Wasting Disease on Fulton and Bedford County Deer Farms



                      WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 03, 2018

                      WISCONSIN CAVES TO GAME FARM INDUSTRY AGAIN WHILE STATE FALLS FURTHER INTO THE ABYSS OF MAD DEER DISEASE CWD TSE PRION



                      Sunday, January 06, 2013

                      USDA TO PGC ONCE CAPTIVES ESCAPE

                      *** "it‘s no longer its business.”



                      COLORADO THE ORIGIN OF CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION?

                      *** Spraker suggested an interesting explanation for the occurrence of CWD. The deer pens at the Foot Hills Campus were built some 30-40 years ago by a Dr. Bob Davis. At or abut that time, allegedly, some scrapie work was conducted at this site. When deer were introduced to the pens they occupied ground that had previously been occupied by sheep.

                      IN CONFIDENCE, REPORT OF AN UNCONVENTIONAL SLOW VIRUS DISEASE IN ANIMALS IN THE USA 1989

                      This Page is [ARCHIVED CONTENT] and shows what the site page http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf looked like on 2 Jan 2008 at 19:37:05


                      ALSO, one of the most, if not the most top TSE Prion God in Science today is Professor Adriano Aguzzi, and he recently commented on just this, on a cwd post on my facebook page August 20 at 1:44pm, quote;

                      ''it pains me to no end to even comtemplate the possibility, but it seems entirely plausible that CWD originated from scientist-made spread of scrapie from sheep to deer in the colorado research facility. If true, a terrible burden for those involved.'' August 20 at 1:44pm ...end

                      ”The occurrence of CWD must be viewed against the contest of the locations in which it occurred. It was an incidental and unwelcome complication of the respective wildlife research programmes. Despite it’s subsequent recognition as a new disease of cervids, therefore justifying direct investigation, no specific research funding was forthcoming. The USDA veiwed it as a wildlife problem and consequently not their province!” page 26.



                      SHOOTING PENS (HIGH/LOW FENCE), CAPTIVE CERVID FARMING, BREEDING, SPERM MILLS, ANTLER MILLS, URINE MILLS, a petri dish for cwd tse prion disease...

                      *** Spraker suggested an interesting explanation for the occurrence of CWD. The deer pens at the Foot Hills Campus were built some 30-40 years ago by a Dr. Bob Davis. At or abut that time, allegedly, some scrapie work was conducted at this site. When deer were introduced to the pens they occupied ground that had previously been occupied by sheep.



                      COLORADO THE ORIGIN OF CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION?

                      *** Spraker suggested an interesting explanation for the occurrence of CWD. The deer pens at the Foot Hills Campus were built some 30-40 years ago by a Dr. Bob Davis. At or abut that time, allegedly, some scrapie work was conducted at this site. When deer were introduced to the pens they occupied ground that had previously been occupied by sheep.

                      IN CONFIDENCE, REPORT OF AN UNCONVENTIONAL SLOW VIRUS DISEASE IN ANIMALS IN THE USA 1989

                      This Page is [ARCHIVED CONTENT] and shows what the site page http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf looked like on 2 Jan 2008 at 19:37:05




                      kind regards, terry

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                        #12
                        Cwd

                        Flounder aka Terry,

                        Your grammar or lack thereof make it near impossible to read and gather and useful information. Please decode the sentence below.

                        in Minnesota and other states, that 100% cwd testing in captive (LOL), reminds me also of the SSS policy. this SSS policy worked very well for Klein et al in Canada with BSE TSE Prion.

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                          #13
                          Dang Flounder, I thought I got away from these posts when I joined this forum.

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                            #14
                            I know when I owned property and hunted Hilltop, for two-three years before I sold it they partnered with TPWD and tested every deer that was harvested the first month of the season. It is definitely nothing to mess with!



                            Michael

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Take Dead Aim View Post
                              Flounder aka Terry,

                              Your grammar or lack thereof make it near impossible to read and gather and useful information. Please decode the sentence below.

                              in Minnesota and other states, that 100% cwd testing in captive (LOL), reminds me also of the SSS policy. this SSS policy worked very well for Klein et al in Canada with BSE TSE Prion.

                              you understand perfectly well what was written, my grammar reads just fine. the science speaks for itself, i am not sparring with you. if you don't like what is written, and or can't understand it, move on, nobody is forcing you to read this thread. with that said, i am pretty much done with this update anyway...

                              good luck!

                              terry

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