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Originally posted by Cajun Blake View PostWhy not call the ATF yourself ? Ask to speak with the senior agent in the office and request that he/she provide you with the information you’re looking for.
Be honest and tell the agent you already purchased the “DIY homemade suppressor” parts and want clarification on the law.
This might help get you the 411 you want (972) 509-1201
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Originally posted by Cajun Blake View PostWhy not call the ATF yourself ? Ask to speak with the senior agent in the office and request that he/she provide you with the information you’re looking for.
Be honest and tell the agent you already purchased the “DIY homemade suppressor” parts and want clarification on the law.
This might help get you the 411 you want (972) 509-1201
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostWe prob went to school for about the same amount of years if I had to guess. Just post the law. We all have opinions (you know the saying) I want to see a law that says i'm wrong.
I posted the link to the Chore Boy brass pads letter. That really lays the theory out.
You know that silencer parts are considered unregistered silencers by the BATFE.
This is why they are shutting down pervayors of solvent trap kits and prosecuting the owners.
"The article said the ATF searched the source code of the website itself — a technique it compared to running a background check for a website — and discovered that the proprietor had included terms like “silencer” and “suppressor” in the metadata. That means that if a person typed the keywords in a search engine, Darkside Defense’s website had a better chance of appearing in the results, the internal newsletter said.
Agents also mined social media and executed search warrants on e-mail accounts and IP addresses to figure out who had bought the solvent traps from Darkside Defense, the newsletter said. Some of the devices ended up in the hands of people who are prohibited from possessing firearms, the newsletter said"
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Originally posted by SC-Texas View PostI'm happy we both went to school for a long time. That's not the point. It just happens that My opinion is the correct one in this case. I've researched the law. I have read the letters. I have dealt with the aTF when they go around collecting these solvent trap kits.
I posted the link to the Chore Boy brass pads letter. That really lays the theory out.
You know that silencer parts are considered unregistered silencers by the BATFE.
This is why they are shutting down pervayors of solvent trap kits and prosecuting the owners.
"The article said the ATF searched the source code of the website itself — a technique it compared to running a background check for a website — and discovered that the proprietor had included terms like “silencer” and “suppressor” in the metadata. That means that if a person typed the keywords in a search engine, Darkside Defense’s website had a better chance of appearing in the results, the internal newsletter said.
Agents also mined social media and executed search warrants on e-mail accounts and IP addresses to figure out who had bought the solvent traps from Darkside Defense, the newsletter said. Some of the devices ended up in the hands of people who are prohibited from possessing firearms, the newsletter said"
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostLink to the law? Opinions are GREAT and im glad you think your opinion is the correct one but do you have anything black and white as in a law that ive now requested 5 times that says you are right. Im well aware of what your opinion is and I know your credentials. Also any recent cases in the last 4 years regarding this matter?
Law. Unregistered silencers are ILLEGAL
That's the law.
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostLink to the law? Opinions are GREAT and im glad you think your opinion is the correct one but do you have anything black and white as in a law that ive now requested 5 times that says you are right. Im well aware of what your opinion is and I know your credentials. Also any recent cases in the last 4 years regarding this matter?
It simply is the correct one.
You are simply wrong. . . .even with your massive education. Still wrong
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Originally posted by SC-Texas View PostAnd I dont think my opinion is the correct one.
It simply is the correct one.
You are simply wrong. . . .even with your massive education. Still wrong
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostI promise I will agree with you just as soon as you back it up with facts and not opinions.
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Originally posted by ClearcreekDC View PostNever purchased from dark side defense thank goodness! Im looking for written laws not cases where they shut down websites.
“ATF has determined that these “solvent traps” are, in fact, silencers. Silencers are firearms that are subject to the licensing and registration provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA). Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5801-5872.”
I must be missing the part where the ATF states “solvent traps only from Dark Side Defense” in that paragraph.
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Originally posted by yotethumper View PostWell apparently you missed it or can’t read so I’ll copy it directly from the link I sent you.
“ATF has determined that these “solvent traps” are, in fact, silencers. Silencers are firearms that are subject to the licensing and registration provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA). Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5801-5872.”
I must be missing the part where the ATF states “solvent traps only from Dark Side Defense” in that paragraph.
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