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mesquitecountry 04-26-2010 10:10 PM

AR/Tacticool Thread of Awesome! (AR Info here!)
 
Can we get a thread going talking about all things AR? Just kind of a barage of AR and Tacticool Gun related questions? How about it?


Just to start it off!

I really want a Magpul Lower! Though I could get an OBR for the same price! But man a 6.8 SBR with a Magpul Lower would be well.... you know what it is. I love me some Magpul products.

Chuck Norris stole a cupcake from Chris Costa.... once. ;)b

Chris Costa's beard is so awesome it stopped a .50 cal bullet in its tracks!

To test Pmags for durability Chris used to stare at them. None survived so they now use a picture, still almost none make it (hence the shortage).



This thread should be dedicated to AR and tacticool Mil type weapon builds and questions, of any type, that way there is a link to a single solitary thread, to keep the same questions from popping up!

So what builds are yall working on? Any sweet new awesomeness unveiled that anyone needs to know about?

slacker 04-26-2010 10:15 PM

Finished my Spikes lower with Magpul CTR, enhanced trigger guard, B.A.D. lever, CAA grip, RRA LPK, Superior Shooting trigger springs and Redi-Mag. Haven't had much time to fiddle with it. Will start building a Spikes upper pretty soon with YHM barrel, Troy MRF 13.8", low profile GB, flip sights, EOTech. Kinda still up in the air on certain things.

Artos 04-26-2010 10:15 PM

AR-15:

Underpowered varmint rifle burdened by a crummy magazine design. Nasty direct-impingement gas system that poops where it eats. High sight line, flimsy alloy-and-plastic construction. Generally favored by range commandos, tactical disciples, military vets who have never fired anything else for comparison, and Brownells addicts who a.) enjoy spending three times the cost on the rifle on bolt-on accoutrements, and b.) never have to use their rifle away from a dry, sunny range.


:Dluv ya man:D

mesquitecountry 04-26-2010 10:22 PM

The Mosin-Nagant:
This unpronounceable rifle has a long history of military service. Napoleon reportedly had one. The unusually long 91/30 barrel combined with bayonet insures that it should be especially useful should a SHTF scenario involve the “redcoats” coming. The major drawback of this rifle is that it is a bolt action, which could make firing the prerequisite thousands of rounds at approaching bad guys difficult. However, if the Mosin owner and the bad guys are patient, one should be able to sling enough lead downrange by the time they are older than their rifle currently is. Like other eastern block rifles, the Mosin also is not black. This may be a possible reason why the Soviets lost the cold war. However, like the SKS and AK, western vendors have corrected this problem by offering an aftermarket stock in black. Unfortunately, none are available with a pistol grip. If Napoleon’s Mosin had a pistol grip, he may have very well conquered the world, but that’s another discussion. Other “carbine” type Mosins are also available, which would be the perfect compliment if one’s SHTF plan includes charging at bad guys on horseback while wearing a fur hat, swinging a curved saber and swilling a bottle of vodka.

mesquitecountry 04-26-2010 10:27 PM

Some more favorites!

Here you go Mike! ;)

Glock:

Butt-ugly plastic shooting appliance with the ergonomics of a caulking gun. Five-pound trigger with no external safety makes it ill suited for its target market (cops who shoot a hundred rounds a year for qualification). Favored by gangbangers because the product name is short and rhymes with other short, rap-friendly words.


10mm Auto:

Super-high pressure cartridge that beats up gun and shooter alike. Very brisk recoil in anything other than all-steel S&W boat anchors, with a shot recovery that’s measured in geological epochs for most handgun platforms. Often underloaded to wimpy levels (see “.40 S&W”), which then gives it 9mm ballistics while requiring .45ACP magazine real estate.

leebtattoos 04-26-2010 10:27 PM

i have no clue what yall are talking about, but Travis, i sure like shooting them ;)b

sneedb82 04-26-2010 10:30 PM

I have a 6.8SPC Spr..... 18" wilson combat barrel, fluted, stainless steel, AAC mount. Using a Spikes Tactical lower and an UBR stock. Sucker is heavy! But fun.

Next will be an M4gery.... an A2 w/ no optics for Appleseed and just plain rifle marksmanship training for anybody who wants to learn.

And last, which won't happen until next year, will be a 6.8 SBR 10.5", with matching 5.56 upper.


Favorite things: Magpul Pmags, CTR, Enhanced triggers, and ranger plates. I dream in FDE.... I want a UDE colored OBR :)

Needless to say, I have expensive tastes.... Oh.... and I got to hold an SR15 and an LWRC REPR this weekend. I'm in love!




EDIT TO ADD:

a picture is worth a thousand words:
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/u...CN0227-1-1.jpg


Pre-UBR
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/DSCN0075.jpg

Dr. D 04-26-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by leebtattoos (Post 2458394)
i have no clue what yall are talking about, but Travis, i sure like shooting them ;)b

Ditto!;);)b:D

mesquitecountry 04-26-2010 10:40 PM

Awesome! Only thing I am hot on is removing weight, I love my Larue, but man I hate a heavy gun, my 16" and SBR's all stay with lightweight rail systems. KAC Ras M4 or Magpul MOE handguards with Ergo rails.

My 6.8 is going with a Magpul MOE middy handguard.
Kind of annoyed though, my spikes build is 4 weeks out!! Grr!

I'm starting my M40A3 build now as well!

After that is a M40A3 in 300 win, and a target .22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneedb82 (Post 2458402)
I have a 6.8SPC Spr..... 18" wilson combat barrel, fluted, stainless steel, AAC mount. Using a Spikes Tactical lower and an UBR stock. Sucker is heavy! But fun.

Next will be an M4gery.... an A2 w/ no optics for Appleseed and just plain rifle marksmanship training for anybody who wants to learn.

And last, which won't happen until next year, will be a 6.8 SBR 10.5", with matching 5.56 upper.


Favorite things: Magpul Pmags, CTR, Enhanced triggers, and ranger plates. I dream in FDE.... I want a UDE colored OBR :)

Needless to say, I have expensive tastes.... Oh.... and I got to hold an SR15 and an LWRC REPR this weekend. I'm in love!




EDIT TO ADD:

a picture is worth a thousand words:
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/u...CN0227-1-1.jpg


Pre-UBR
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/DSCN0075.jpg


sneedb82 04-26-2010 10:59 PM

Agree with the weight issue. The Troy TRX Extreme is light, but not nearly as light as the DD Lite Rail or the URX... However, for my purposes, the Troy will stay on there. it's only heavy because of the bipod and bipod mount. They add almost as much weight to the barrel as the barrel itself. And the barrel is only 28 oz...fluted in addition.

The UBR is heavy, but it balances the muzzle rise with the 6.8 on a bipod *if you're not holding it, you need more balance*.

Dr. D 04-26-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquitecountry (Post 2458419)
Awesome! Only thing I am hot on is removing weight, I love my Larue, but man I hate a heavy gun, my 16" and SBR's all stay with lightweight rail systems. KAC Ras M4 or Magpul MOE handguards with Ergo rails.

My 6.8 is going with a Magpul MOE middy handguard.
Kind of annoyed though, my spikes build is 4 weeks out!! Grr!

I'm starting my M40A3 build now as well!

After that is a M40A3 in 300 win, and a target .22

Travis call, text, or pm me!:)

Bily Lovec 04-27-2010 05:17 AM

just bolted the optics on the 6.8 last night :p
tommyH is assembling my last complete lower now, pics to follow tonight :D

travis, I agree,
there is nothing cooler than a china-doll lower from Magpul ;)b

mesquitecountry 04-27-2010 06:44 AM

Today's Debate.


Which Grip system/design do you prefer best? Rank your top 3.

I have to go with Ergo ergonomics, angle that my hand slides into, grip is phenomenal, durability is good, storage is decent.

Second I have to go with Hogue overmolded, decent grip, decent storage, kiss design

Magpul MIAD pre rubber over mold, rubber over molding may move it up the list, best storage, half decent grip, ok angle, needs rubber.

jbitt4x4 04-27-2010 06:51 AM

Man yall are making me drool and want a black rifle bad;)b......must...get... wife's bow first:eek::D

Maddox 04-27-2010 07:56 AM

Two more weeks and my OBR should be here.

Decided this week that Im going to put together a 300 whisper now that CorBon is selling bullets for it.

If you want a good laugh, check out the Costa photoshop thread going on in the General Section on ARFCOM.

RedTx 04-27-2010 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquitecountry (Post 2458548)
Today's Debate.


Which Grip system/design do you prefer best? Rank your top 3.

I have to go with Ergo ergonomics, angle that my hand slides into, grip is phenomenal, durability is good, storage is decent.

Second I have to go with Hogue overmolded, decent grip, decent storage, kiss design

Magpul MIAD pre rubber over mold, rubber over molding may move it up the list, best storage, half decent grip, ok angle, needs rubber.

I would say you are dead on with your suggestions. Love my egro's the bst ;)b

OPC Patrick 04-27-2010 09:08 AM

OK... if you are going to talk about super cool things lets add pics so I know what the heck we are discussing.

Beerkat 04-27-2010 09:19 AM

Any of you guys know anything about POF ar15's? Looking to buy one but would like more feedback.... Thanks

DXTApache 04-27-2010 10:54 AM

This is off topic for today's conversation regarding grips, but...

Has anyone got word on whether or not rob_s has had a chance to visit the Spike's shop? I'm interested in his feedback...

Bily Lovec 04-27-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXTApache (Post 2459087)
This is off topic for today's conversation regarding grips, but...

Has anyone got word on whether or not rob_s has had a chance to visit the Spike's shop? I'm interested in his feedback...

he spent 5-6 hours there friday i believe.
he hasnt posted his report yet, see my lower post.

Maddox 04-27-2010 11:05 AM

Hum, wonder what the bad means. Spikes grew VERY QUICKLY there, I wonder if there are some pretty serious growing pains that are arising.

Bily Lovec 04-27-2010 11:09 AM

here ya go, a quick note from Rob,
it all seems good so far...
spike's

Quote:

If anyone is waiting to pull the trigger on a purchase one way or another based on the 6 hours I spent at Spike's and the one day and 1k rounds I spent with a sample of one of their guns, don't. I don't merit that kind of control over anybody's purchases.

We shot just at 1k rounds on Saturday, 660 Wolf, about 250 XM193, and about 90 Black Hills 75 grain blue box. I'll post more about this as I correspond more with Spike's.

If you are concerned that they are using DPMS LPKs, don't be. If you are concerned that they are using imported junk bolts or other parts, don't be. If you suspect that a lot of the parts Spike's is using are the same ones that many of the respected brands are using, you are probably right.

I am writing an article on my visit and the rifle for Black Guns magazine so I need to be careful not to "scoop" myself. I will say this though, in the $1k and under market Spike's would be my first choice, albeit without the spider logo. The good news is that EVERY gun is built to order when the order comes in so you can get it how you want it provided they have or can get the parts you want.

In general I was very impressed with Tom and his staff.

Bily Lovec 04-27-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 2459114)
Hum, wonder what the bad means. Spikes grew VERY QUICKLY there, I wonder if there are some pretty serious growing pains that are arising.

maddox,
I may not should use the word bad, growing pains may be better... Im going to edit that post.

DXTApache 04-27-2010 11:19 AM

Thanks a bunch, Bily

BCM is out of stock on the upper I have been wanting to purchase, and I noticed I could get a similar setup from Spikes (with the addition of a CHF bbl) for about the same price. All this waiting is making my head spin!

hawkusmc 04-27-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Artos (Post 2458365)
AR-15:

Underpowered varmint rifle burdened by a crummy magazine design. Nasty direct-impingement gas system that poops where it eats. High sight line, flimsy alloy-and-plastic construction. Generally favored by range commandos, tactical disciples, military vets who have never fired anything else for comparison, and Brownells addicts who a.) enjoy spending three times the cost on the rifle on bolt-on accoutrements, and b.) never have to use their rifle away from a dry, sunny range.


:Dluv ya man:D

Old Marines don't have that problem! ;)b

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Joey~AP 04-27-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OPC Patrick (Post 2458812)
OK... if you are going to talk about super cool things lets add pics so I know what the heck we are discussing.

Seriously! ;)b

And make sure they are posted from your hard drive.....so those of us with regulated comps can drool over em! :cool:

McWilliams 04-27-2010 12:52 PM

I'll just leave this right here...
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=135459 but You know what, I still like My .308 bolt gun a lot more...;)b

mesquitecountry 04-27-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkusmc (Post 2459168)
Old Marines don't have that problem! ;)b

Attachment 159664


All in good fun!!


M14/M1A:

Clunky, heavy, and overpowered. Essentially a Garand tarted up with a removable magazine, in a half-baked attempt to adapt a 19th century rifle design philosophy to the mid-20th century. Most often named as favorite infantry rifle by people who never had to hump a 10-pound wood-stocked rifle with lots of sharp protrusions and no collapsible anything on a three day exercise, or try to make it through a firefight with the standard battle load of five 20-round magazines.

mesquitecountry 04-27-2010 06:07 PM

Great post and insight Billy!


My Rem 700 SPS tac showed up today! Sending off the bolt tomorrow, waiting on parts to finish up! Can't wait till this one is done!

texag93 04-27-2010 06:26 PM

My "in progress" tacticool project is RR SBR 9mm w/ YH can. SBD!


...and debating converting my R25 to......260Rem. Not that tacticool, just cool.

Cottonfish 04-27-2010 09:13 PM

You guys give a fella an inferiority complex..........I'm still saving for my very own TA33G-H ACOG. Been mostly accuumulating ammo lately, about to start a little reloading of a bunch of mixed-bag range pickup brass that I have. Any favorite load recipies for 55-62 grain FMJ's out of my 16" 1/9 twist barrel?

Stu

Little Shark 04-27-2010 09:55 PM

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I have no idea what stuff is on here, but it is a .223 bought it from Academy for my first but not last rifle. ;)b

Joey~AP 04-27-2010 10:05 PM

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5C2 inbound!

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OPC Patrick 04-27-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPC Patrick (Post 2458812)
OK... if you are going to talk about super cool things lets add pics so I know what the heck we are discussing.

darn filters at work... I can see the pics now

Maddox 04-28-2010 05:36 AM

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../photo-1-1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...-02/photo2.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...2/IMG_0717.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...2/IMG_0312.jpg

mesquitecountry 04-28-2010 06:07 AM

Sweet Loot Maddox! Any new projects?

Can you explain the draw of the UBR stock? I always hear everyone crow about them but have never used one. I don't like how the parts separate, seems like there would be a weakness where they lock together.

Maddox 04-28-2010 06:09 AM

Im working on a bolt gun now and I still have 4 ARs I need to finish.

The UBR stock is SOLID. You could literally beat someone to death with it and it wouldn't show any abuse. If you get a chance, check one out.

mesquitecountry 04-28-2010 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey~AP (Post 2460942)
5C2 inbound!

Attachment 159823

Joey, just go ahead and upgrade it to a phantom mount and buy you a can! ;)b

Quote:

Im working on a bolt gun now and I still have 4 ARs I need to finish.

The UBR stock is SOLID. You could literally beat someone to death with it and it wouldn't show any abuse. If you get a chance, check one out.
I'm working on my bolt guns as well, i think they may be more addictive than AR's. Ill have to put a UBR on my SBR build, can't decide if I want my SBR to be a 5.56 or 6.8, though I can interchange either. Thoughts? I know what Paul is going to say. :) What kind of bolt are you working on?

Maddox 04-28-2010 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquitecountry (Post 2461246)
Joey, just go ahead and upgrade it to a phantom mount and buy you a can! ;)b



I'm working on my bolt guns as well, i think they may be more addictive than AR's. Ill have to put a UBR on my SBR build, can't decide if I want my SBR to be a 5.56 or 6.8, though I can interchange either. Thoughts? I know what Paul is going to say. :) What kind of bolt are you working on?

556 ammo is easier to get and thats why all my ARs at 556. I will probably build 1 of my last lowers into a 300 whisper just for fun, but I hate shopping for ammo. 556, 308, 9mm, 45 is about all I buy. I do have a 380 that I carry alot, but I purchased 5 boxes of Defense Ammo for it.

mesquitecountry 04-28-2010 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 2461304)
556 ammo is easier to get and thats why all my ARs at 556. I will probably build 1 of my last lowers into a 300 whisper just for fun, but I hate shopping for ammo. 556, 308, 9mm, 45 is about all I buy. I do have a 380 that I carry alot, but I purchased 5 boxes of Defense Ammo for it.

Pretty much exactly what I buy as well. I wanted a little more thump for hog hunting at night, that is why I went 6.8 on this build. I'd love a whisper, but, like you said, finding ammo sucks.

Maddox 04-28-2010 07:22 AM

Corbon started selling 300 whisper ammo, which is why Im even considering it. I order two AAC SCAR-H SD suppressors this week and think a 14.5" 300 whisper w/ pinned AAC MITER Mount and Scar-H would make one hell of a gun. I just need to find a good match barrel for the 300 Whisper and a low profile gas block that allows me to turn off the gas while suppressed and I will start this project.

bdphunt 04-28-2010 09:39 AM

I just put a quad rail on my S&W M&P 15A. I have mounted a light, but now I need a forend grip. Any suggestions? I don't want to break the bank on the grip, but I want a functional one and I like the idea of a battery compartment. What do you guys like?

Maddox 04-28-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdphunt (Post 2461672)
I just put a quad rail on my S&W M&P 15A. I have mounted a light, but now I need a forend grip. Any suggestions? I don't want to break the bank on the grip, but I want a functional one and I like the idea of a battery compartment. What do you guys like?

Larue FUG
Tango Down
Magpul

Magpul will be the cheapest, Larue the most expensive, and Tango down in the middle.

Mike D 04-28-2010 11:14 AM

What's an AR? :D

Artos 04-28-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 2461954)
What's an AR? :D


I think it's tied to banking....like an 'Account Reduction' device or something of the like??

Mike D 04-28-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artos (Post 2461988)
I think it's tied to banking....like an 'Account Reduction' device or something of the like??

Amen on that! :(

I try not to think about how much more money I could have........uhhhhhh that is if I owned any of those scary things. ;)b

JBS 04-28-2010 11:41 AM

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Old Marines don't have that problem! ;)b

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Hawk, your missing an accessory

mesquitecountry 04-28-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 2461739)
Larue FUG
Tango Down
Magpul

Magpul will be the cheapest, Larue the most expensive, and Tango down in the middle.

Pretty much sums it up well. Daniel Defense has a
decent one as well. It really depends on how you want it to fit your hand.

Broomstick skinny, fat and stubby, long and fat.

BuckySWT 04-28-2010 01:23 PM

here's what mine will be...parts have been shipped:
DPMS Lower
Stag 6H upper
Vortex crossfire 4x16x50 illum mil dot
Vortex Tactical Rings
AR Gold trigger
Ergo Ambi Grip (OD)
Magpul CTR Stock (OD)

Might have everything all together by the weekend depending on if the upper shipped. Not sure when the trigger will be here...got a receipt, but no shipping info (checking in to it).

Bring on the zombies

hawkusmc 04-28-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS (Post 2462013)
Hawk, your missing an accessory

Sweet! oo-RAH!
I don't care what the "kids" say! :cool:

Jest Kiddin' ;)b


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