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Les 06-15-2017 03:58 PM

I'll pass on the info. Thanks!

Goodfellah 06-17-2017 10:25 AM

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Any idea what this one is? Jasper county near Angelina river.

quarterback 06-17-2017 02:48 PM

Goodfellah, your arrowhead is pretty rough and hard for me to nail down. Using the location I looked in my book and came up with 3 possibilities. They are:

- Lange
- Epps
- Woden

It appears to be made of petrified wood possibly. Do you have any others that you've found in the same general area?

Goodfellah 06-17-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by quarterback (Post 12512144)
Goodfellah, your arrowhead is pretty rough and hard for me to nail down. Using the location I looked in my book and came up with 3 possibilities. They are:

- Lange
- Epps
- Woden

It appears to be made of petrified wood possibly. Do you have any others that you've found in the same general area?

Definitely petrified wood. Unfortunately, this is the first one i have found. I will check to see if any other members have pics of theirs I can post. There have been several found in that area over the years.

Goodfellah 06-17-2017 09:25 PM

Quarterback, I'm thinking Lange, thanks for the help!

Patton 06-26-2017 05:35 PM

Can you please experts ID please- Edwards county.

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muzzlebrake 06-26-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton (Post 12532994)

Those look like preforms. Maybe trade items?

cphillips 07-06-2017 07:05 PM

Smith County found it when we were building our house pad. Can someone ID https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...201d85779b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e23611fe79.jpg

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GarGuy 07-07-2017 10:35 AM

Man im not sure what to say about that one.. Do you have any pics that show the flaking?

It is shaped very much like the ones sold in novelty shops but since you found it, let see the flaking.

Pineywoods 07-07-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by E.TEXAS4LIFE (Post 12228154)

Great find

cphillips 07-07-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12557608)
Man im not sure what to say about that one.. Do you have any pics that show the flaking?

It is shaped very much like the ones sold in novelty shops but since you found it, let see the flaking.

Let me rephrase a little bit, my uncle picked it up while we were doing the dirt work, now if he planted it or if it was actually there I do not know. I'm not to familiar with how to show the flaking, do I just turn it on its side and take pics?

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snappertapper 07-07-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12557608)
Man im not sure what to say about that one.. Do you have any pics that show the flaking?

It is shaped very much like the ones sold in novelty shops but since you found it, let see the flaking.

That was my first thought as well.

GarGuy 07-07-2017 10:55 AM

Maybe get it out in indirect lighting Focused pic so the flaking shows best even if the pic has to bee taken at an angle. FYI... im not declaring it a fake. there are some point types that have a similar shape.

cphillips 07-07-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12557674)
Maybe get it out in indirect lighting Focused pic so the flaking shows best even if the pic has to bee taken at an angle. FYI... im not declaring it a fake. there are some point types that have a similar shape.

I'll get it this evening and repost some pics. We were skeptical that it was not real as well.

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E.TEXAS4LIFE 07-07-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineywoods (Post 12557622)
Great find

Thanks piney.. found this one yesterday. I was howlin in the creek! Shame it has a little damage but still a beauty!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4fc9ca193.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fdf349e4e3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a0800410d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0b0f7c9ec0.jpg

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Apretz 07-07-2017 04:26 PM

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ID? Found in south Texas

cphillips 07-07-2017 05:01 PM

Let's hear y'all's thoughts again. Cause I think I solved the mystery, maybe.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fc43f96d8d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ad3aaef855.jpg

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GarGuy 07-07-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by E.TEXAS4LIFE (Post 12558006)
Thanks piney.. found this one yesterday. I was howlin in the creek! Shame it has a little damage but still a beauty!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4fc9ca193.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fdf349e4e3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a0800410d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0b0f7c9ec0.jpg

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That was one fine paleo piece! Shame the base is broken but still a very fine artifact.

GarGuy 07-07-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apretz (Post 12558443)
ID? Found in south Texas

Bell with a snapped stem..

quarterback 07-07-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cphillips (Post 12558506)
Let's hear y'all's thoughts again. Cause I think I solved the mystery, maybe.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fc43f96d8d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ad3aaef855.jpg

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I vote modern replica. Not a bad job of knapping, just an odd shape to me. I definitely could be wrong however.

GarGuy 07-07-2017 05:20 PM

Ok, here is my opinion for what its worth. remember Im just looking at pics and could be totally wrong.

First, the notches are ground into it instead off being flaked. this was common with novelty points because speed was the factor instead of function. The general shape looks to be from a slab instead of a Knapped stone.

The material certainly isnt native to east tx and looks to be Rhyolite from central Mexico.

Once again, thats just opinion and Ii certainly wouldnt question anyones integrity from a picture. Steve

Apretz 07-07-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12558529)
Bell with a snapped stem..

Thanks! That's actually what I was thinking just wanted to confirm.

cphillips 07-07-2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by quarterback (Post 12558531)
I vote modern replica. Not a bad job of knapping, just an odd shape to me. I definitely could be wrong however.

I think you are correct, and here is why. When I took these pics I noticed it had glue in the center on the bottom, as if it had been attached to something. After further discussion with my dad and looking at some pictures we figured out that it fell off of an arrow that we purchased in the smokey mountains, at a gift shop some 15 years ago. Guess it was just pure luck that we stumbled across it when we were building the house pad out in the pasture. On another note I'm headed to the ranch this weekend to try and find some real ones again.

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quarterback 07-07-2017 07:17 PM

Best of luck to you in your search. Now the pressure is on to find some good points. Sure makes me want to get out and do some looking too. Post up your finds if you get something.

GarGuy 07-08-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cphillips (Post 12558587)
I think you are correct, and here is why. When I took these pics I noticed it had glue in the center on the bottom, as if it had been attached to something. After further discussion with my dad and looking at some pictures we figured out that it fell off of an arrow that we purchased in the smokey mountains, at a gift shop some 15 years ago. Guess it was just pure luck that we stumbled across it when we were building the house pad out in the pasture. On another note I'm headed to the ranch this weekend to try and find some real ones again.

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Im glad yall figured that out. It was pretty clear to me that it was a novelty shop point. I just didnt want to offend anyone.

gander 07-18-2017 10:29 AM

Was down this past weekend getting setup for the upcoming season this past weekend and I have made it a mission to start setting apart at least an hour or two to try to locate some areas that might have some artifacts. Well back in quail season I found a broken piece in this cactus flat that's about 200-300 yards south of the main creek on the property. I walked through it Saturday and started finding good broken flint. I was about to turn back and go back to the truck and then decided I'd walk to the next bend. When I found this little point. I know it's nothing compared to some of what y'all find but it's my closest thing to being a full point that I've found since I was a kid and didn't really appreciate it like I do now. What do you guys say it is? Also, the other piece appears to be a broken? It appears worked and pretty evenly flaked on both sides. There is a large ridge on one side of the creek, should I focus on this ridge more? I'm really interested in this stuff. This is located Southwest of Carrizo Springs.
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gander 07-18-2017 12:47 PM

I was thinking the top point might be a Frio from what I have seen on the internet? No idea on the other piece?

Patton 07-18-2017 12:59 PM

Idk man but both those pieces are nice. The serrations on that little point are sweet. Bottom one looks like a finished piece to my barely educated eye. Is the flat edge/base sharp or ground down? Doesn't look broken to me except some on the tip. Nice finds

gander 07-18-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton (Post 12582150)
Idk man but both those pieces are nice. The serrations on that little point are sweet. Bottom one looks like a finished piece to my barely educated eye. Is the flat edge/base sharp or ground down? Doesn't look broken to me except some on the tip. Nice finds

It's sharp, has flaking on both sides, not like it's broken off. Appreciate it brother, I can see how this would get addicting.

Patton 07-18-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gander (Post 12582274)
It's sharp, has flaking on both sides, not like it's broken off. Appreciate it brother, I can see how this would get addicting.

I've got about 6 or 7 Crown bags full of worked pieces and that one point of yours would certainly be in my top 10.. Definitely addicting.

twosixteens 07-24-2017 06:03 AM

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I found this about twenty years ago just outside of Medicine Bow Wyoming.

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rosco11 07-24-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by twosixteens (Post 12594888)
I found this about twenty years ago just outside of Medicine Bow

Man, that thing has a sharp lookin point and it seems you can see where it was wrapped to attach. Nice!

Hawkpuppy 1 07-24-2017 07:37 AM

Here are some that I have picked up lately. All surface finds in Edwards, Real and Bexar Counties....
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I am curious as to the opinion of what this is. I am guessing/hoping maybe the broke back end of a folsom? Found in Bexar Co...
https://s13.postimg.org/79rqbowc7/image5.jpg
https://s13.postimg.org/jzvyos4af/image6.jpg

quarterback 07-24-2017 03:29 PM

Hawkpuppy your surface finds look a lot like what I find in San Saba County. Not sure about that last broke but yeah, it does appear to be the end of a paleo point. Garguy should know more...

Patton 07-24-2017 03:48 PM

I find pieces like that last one and figure them to be worn down ears broken off of a Pedernales

twosixteens 07-24-2017 04:48 PM

Anyone have an idea what post 871 might be?

Patton 07-26-2017 08:07 PM

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Calendar stone?
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Kerrville knife?
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Patton 07-28-2017 07:51 AM

Ttt

wal1809 07-28-2017 08:35 AM

I would say yes on the Kerville Knife identification.

GarGuy 07-28-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkpuppy 1 (Post 12595027)
Here are some that I have picked up lately. All surface finds in Edwards, Real and Bexar Counties....
https://s12.postimg.org/924pw8n8t/image1.jpg
https://s12.postimg.org/dcjdrtsbx/image2.jpg
https://s12.postimg.org/3kgpm6hf1/image3.jpg
https://s12.postimg.org/l7tx6n1yl/image4.jpg

I am curious as to the opinion of what this is. I am guessing/hoping maybe the broke back end of a folsom? Found in Bexar Co...
https://s13.postimg.org/79rqbowc7/image5.jpg
https://s13.postimg.org/jzvyos4af/image6.jpg

I sure think thats a Folsom base. great find.


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