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bloodstick 02-04-2019 06:47 PM

Official Arrowhead ID Thread
 
Father In Law dug a pond for a neighbor. Spread the spoils in a few areas and his kids playing in the dirt found this head. Its in pretty good shape. Anybody know what it may be and what time period these were popular? We hope to look a little harder to see if we find more. This was in western Walker County near Bedias.

(Edit) this orange material it is made out if is very common here. I find it all the time digging post holes and such

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Patton 02-04-2019 07:02 PM

I think that might be a Gary
https://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Gary.html

Reelthreat 02-04-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Whampuscat2 (Post 13931040)
Found some small ones in a cave.

Nice toyah and perdiz!

GarGuy 02-06-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodstick (Post 13972898)
Father In Law dug a pond for a neighbor. Spread the spoils in a few areas and his kids playing in the dirt found this head. Its in pretty good shape. Anybody know what it may be and what time period these were popular? We hope to look a little harder to see if we find more. This was in western Walker County near Bedias.

(Edit) this orange material it is made out if is very common here. I find it all the time digging post holes and such

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Ill go with Early Stemmed on the type as the base appears to be ground although I cant be positive without holding it. A good guess would be early Archaic maybe 7,000ish years old.

The material may be petrified palm wood. the white streaks looks like syphons to me. The Bedias area is home to the finest agatized palm on earth..

bloodstick 02-06-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 13976464)
Ill go with Early Stemmed on the type as the base appears to be ground although I cant be positive without holding it. A good guess would be early Archaic maybe 7,000ish years old.

The material may be petrified palm wood. the white streaks looks like syphons to me. The Bedias area is home to the finest agatized palm on earth..



Thanks for the info Steve. We find rather large pieces of that material a lot around here. I found one piece roughly 18” long and 8-9 inches around when digging our garden last year. My wife had it up for decoration around but it seemed to have been placed somewhere else. My home is but only a few miles from a known Bedias Indian camp. I think they were later as this head was found in a load that came from roughly 6-7 feet down in the hole.
Supposedly there is an old road the spanish used to travel through here. The older neighbors remember when there was a treasure hunt in the 80’s when some artifacts were discovered nearby. The supposed road crosses my property


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muleycrazy 02-06-2019 11:57 AM

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GarGuy 02-06-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodstick (Post 13976489)
Thanks for the info Steve. We find rather large pieces of that material a lot around here. I found one piece roughly 18” long and 8-9 inches around when digging our garden last year. My wife had it up for decoration around but it seemed to have been placed somewhere else. My home is but only a few miles from a known Bedias Indian camp. I think they were later as this head was found in a load that came from roughly 6-7 feet down in the hole.
Supposedly there is an old road the spanish used to travel through here. The older neighbors remember when there was a treasure hunt in the 80’s when some artifacts were discovered nearby. The supposed road crosses my property


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Johnny and I excavated a large site very near you. It had artifacts ranging from 200 years old to 12,000 years old. The point you have is much older than the invention of bow and arrow in the Americas.

Save that glassy petrified wood even if it isnt palm.

bloodstick 02-06-2019 12:10 PM

Official Arrowhead ID Thread
 
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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 13976501)
Johnny and I excavated a large site very near you. It had artifacts ranging from 200 years old to 12,000 years old. The point you have is much older than the invention of bow and arrow in the Americas.



Save that glassy petrified wood even if it isnt palm.



Its awesome what can be found in your own back yard.

If not for an arrow, what would a head this size be used for? Small fishing spear maybe?


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GarGuy 02-06-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodstick (Post 13976521)
Its awesome what can be found in your own back yard.

If not for an arrow, what would a bead this size be used for? Small fishing spear maybe?


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It was on a hand thrown shaft.. Likely thrown by an atalatl. Used to kill large animals such as deer and bison.

salth2o 02-17-2019 08:01 PM

My brother had some dirt delivered to his roping pen and has found several points. He’s in Northeast Texas.

Wondering what material this is in the red one in the first pic? Jasper maybe?
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GarGuy 02-18-2019 11:13 AM

All Gary related and late Archaic. Top one looks like its made of heat treated Novaculite. The rest are probably made of ogalalla chert. The dark one may be another material but I have seen ogalalla that color.

breederbuck33 02-21-2019 12:02 PM

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What say you fellas? Found around Freer.

quarterback 02-22-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by breederbuck33 (Post 14007076)
What say you fellas? Found around Freer.

The closest point in my book looks like Desmuke. Yours looks very distinctive and I certainly could be wrong.

Truckman 03-18-2019 09:00 PM

2 more
 
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Found 2 more! Any thoughts on what they are ?

Truckman 03-18-2019 09:07 PM

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Can’t get the other one to load...similar but wider. Same coloring

GarGuy 03-19-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Truckman (Post 14054327)
Can’t get the other one to load...similar but wider. Same coloring


That point is pretty old. Could be a worn down Wells but may also be Paleo. I would like to see the other.. Keep trying please.
Also. I forget what part of the state those came from?

Truckman 03-26-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 14055144)
That point is pretty old. Could be a worn down Wells but may also be Paleo. I would like to see the other.. Keep trying please.

Also. I forget what part of the state those came from?



Between Mason and Menard, sorry it took awhile....
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criddle 04-02-2019 07:02 PM

Any ideas what these are/were etc.?
The smaller one was found in Taylor county and the larger one I assume was found in the same general area.
Pics don't show much of the work on them but they were worked.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a888ed67cc.jpg

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JDALEX 04-02-2019 09:07 PM

Official Arrowhead ID Thread
 
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Was given to me from a buddy that had a bad drinking problem, i tried to give it back to him the next day but he refused to take it back, know nothing about it.


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GarGuy 04-03-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by criddle (Post 14080381)
Any ideas what these are/were etc.?
The smaller one was found in Taylor county and the larger one I assume was found in the same general area.
Pics don't show much of the work on them but they were worked.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a888ed67cc.jpg

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Those were likely Pedernales points. Both are extremely worn down. Someone loved them long time.

GarGuy 04-03-2019 10:05 AM

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Was given to me from a buddy that had a bad drinking problem, i tried to give it back to him the next day but he refused to take it back, know nothing about it.


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Looks like some version of a Dove tail. Unusual for a Texas point but its possible. it looks like it has a water stain on it that would hint its legit but I just cant tell enough from pics to make a call on that one.

If he found it a thousand or so miles North, that might explain it.

Johnny 04-03-2019 11:33 AM

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Was given to me from a buddy that had a bad drinking problem, i tried to give it back to him the next day but he refused to take it back, know nothing about it.


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Looks like a motley. I have found a good handful of them around my neck of the woods


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GarGuy 04-03-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 14081511)
Looks like a motley. I have found a good handful of them around my neck of the woods


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I never considered Motley to be that fan tailed. i actually have a couple of points that are similar that i just never could name so maybe you are right.

criddle 04-03-2019 08:44 PM

Thank you, GarGuy

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SEA PRO 210 04-03-2019 11:13 PM

Personal find frames
 
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Here are 3 frames of mine from Washington, Webb, and LaSalle Counties. All single site frames from surface hunting. The Arenosa Langtry is from Webb County. Not sure how it got in my LaSalle county frame.

Hawkins 06-03-2019 07:07 AM

Found on the Clay/Jack county line.

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Hawkins 06-03-2019 07:09 AM

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dawgkllr 06-03-2019 08:15 AM

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That come off of your place? I've got one that looks close to it from our place. We've found quite a few on the place and all of this rain has me wanting to go looking for more. The Lost Valley area was a big hunting area according to the history that I have read.

Hawkins 06-03-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgkllr (Post 14178554)
That come off of your place? I've got one that looks close to it from our place. We've found quite a few on the place and all of this rain has me wanting to go looking for more. The Lost Valley area was a big hunting area according to the history that I have read.

This one came from the Post oak, tx area. About 20 miles away from ya.

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dawgkllr 06-03-2019 08:47 AM

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This one came from the Post oak, tx area. About 20 miles away from ya.

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Have ya'll found any over on your place?

Hawkins 06-03-2019 08:53 AM

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Have ya'll found any over on your place?

Never have found anything

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Quackerbox 06-03-2019 10:05 AM

Heres what's left of a collection of points found on our place in Houston county. All found on a hill within 40 yards of a spring fed creek.

I know there is tons more to he found. Need to do a real dighttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4028b73d12.jpg

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breederbuck33 07-15-2019 04:37 PM

Where do you guys get your knowledge on this stuff? Is there a good book I can buy, or website I can go to? Seems like there is a ton of info out there online, but it all seems conflicting to me.

salth2o 07-17-2019 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by breederbuck33 (Post 14246860)
Where do you guys get your knowledge on this stuff? Is there a good book I can buy, or website I can go to? Seems like there is a ton of info out there online, but it all seems conflicting to me.



This is kind of the “bible” of Texas stone artifacts.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f94538d417.jpg

There are a few good Facebook groups that Jane excellent info. One is Texas Chert.

A good website is

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Sear...as_Search.html


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rosco11 07-18-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by salth2o (Post 14251620)
This is kind of the “bible” of Texas stone artifacts.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f94538d417.jpg

There are a few good Facebook groups that Jane excellent info. One is Texas Chert.

A good website is

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Sear...as_Search.html


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Thanks for the great info and resources!

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breederbuck33 07-18-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by salth2o (Post 14251620)
This is kind of the “bible” of Texas stone artifacts.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f94538d417.jpg

There are a few good Facebook groups that Jane excellent info. One is Texas Chert.

A good website is

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Sear...as_Search.html


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TBH Comes through again! Thanks guys.

Stoof 07-20-2019 04:59 PM

Not an arrow head but interesting. My boy found it in the Blanco. It is definitely limestone and the thickness inconsistencies make me wonder.
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twosixteens 07-20-2019 05:14 PM

Not sure what it is but it is a very cool find

Sticks&Strings 07-20-2019 05:42 PM

How do you know where to look? I have access to 6000 acres between bracketville and rock springs. We have the west nueces and a big wet weather creek that feeds it on the place. TONS of rock. How do you determine where to start looking. Is it best to look on surface, or go to an area with a back hoe and start digging?

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mikemorvan 07-20-2019 05:47 PM

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How do you know where to look? I have access to 6000 acres between bracketville and rock springs. We have the west nueces and a big wet weather creek that feeds it on the place. TONS of rock. How do you determine where to start looking. Is it best to look on surface, or go to an area with a back hoe and start digging?

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