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Statton48 07-10-2013 07:39 PM

Steve, the two blades were less than a foot away from each other when I found them. Trust me my heart sank!! They seem to pe on great condition from what I, a rookie, can tell. As far as part of the state, right outside of longview not even 10 miles.

TimH 07-10-2013 07:39 PM

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Awesome stuff here!

Here's a couple more to identify.

White one I found on our place in Pflugerville and the red one I found in Cotulla.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 07:40 PM

Nate, that looks like a nice little worn out Plainview just form looking at one side. 10,000 or so years old.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Statton48 (Post 7231720)
Steve, the two blades were less than a foot away from each other when I found them. Trust me my heart sank!! They seem to pe on great condition from what I, a rookie, can tell. As far as part of the state, right outside of longview not even 10 miles.

They are very nice and I suspected they were together. I would be willing to bet there are three or four more of them in the dirt right there. You might want to go back and dig a little. I am going to call those Delhi even though they don't perfectly match the type. The reason I say that is there was a middle archaic trade route through East tx and often points identical to that were made in a "generic" style to be traded. These points virtually always come in cache groups of 4-8 blades.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 07:56 PM

Tim, those are a little too damaged for me to positively ID. I will say though that the point on the left is ancient. It is probably a rootbeer color in reality. The white on it is purely patina that grows on Edwards chert. If you knocked a little piece of, it woiuld amaze you to see the original color inside. It took many thousands of years to grow that patina over the flaking.

scotty 07-10-2013 08:02 PM

Any idea on post #25?

Reelthreat 07-10-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 7231651)
I would like to see closeups of the circled points if possible. Focused, with flaking visible if possible on both sides.

Garguy, those are typical Deep South Texas points. I bet they are from webb county or neiboring counties. The angled teardrop shape is a desmuke and the triangles are either matamoros or tortuga depending on size, both can have concave and thinned bases. I literally have thousands of them from Webb.

Reelthreat 07-10-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 7231836)
Any idea on post #25?

Looks to be a darl.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 08:11 PM

Thanks Reelthreat. Classic or not, there is a wide variety in that frame and some of them are old. I would like a closer look. I see Tortugas in there. Look close and you might also see a Folsom.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 7231836)
Any idea on post #25?

hard to tell with the stick and lashing. Its something middle Archaic.... Edit darl would fit.

KickerPoint79 07-10-2013 08:12 PM

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Okay guys take a look at these two. I found these as a kid along the same creek about 100 yards apart. The one on the left is the first arrowhead I ever found. I've been staring at the ground ever since. :) I've never really known what they may be. These were found in Upshur county in east TX.

scotty 07-10-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 7231876)
hard to tell with the stick and lashing. Its something middle Archaic.... Edit darl would fit.

Thanks.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 08:16 PM

Kickerpoint, Those are probably Yarborough. They both have a little bit of a Wilson look but I cant see grinding.

KickerPoint79 07-10-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 7231901)
Kickerpoint, Those are probably Yarborough. They both have a little bit of a Wilson look but I cant see grinding.

Thank you sir. I felt like they were the same type or similar time period.

snappertapper 07-10-2013 08:20 PM

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Close ups

snappertapper 07-10-2013 08:22 PM

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More..

Reelthreat 07-10-2013 08:25 PM

Here are some I have IDed and will post for your reference... If anybody sees an error let me know.

From top group to bottom: top tortuga/matamoros, middle desmuke, and bottom is abasolo.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...pscfc19af4.jpg

from top to bottom: perdenales, langtry, scallorn, toyah, perdiz, Williams, frio

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1a0e3a69.jpg


Top golondrina, middle Plainview drill and bottom angostura

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4fa28578.jpg

KickerPoint79 07-10-2013 08:27 PM

Great stuff snapper.

GarGuy 07-10-2013 09:14 PM

Great stuff Reel. A couple of those birdies might be Perdiz too. Also after looking at the close ups I concede the Typical south Texas stuff. I sure was wanting to see a clear flute and microflaking on that small one with the broke ear. Looks like there is a nice Early triangular in there though.

Reelthreat 07-10-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 7232212)
Great stuff Reel. A couple of those birdies might be Perdiz too. Also after looking at the close ups I concede the Typical south Texas stuff. I sure was wanting to see a clear flute and microflaking on that small one with the broke ear. Looks like there is a nice Early triangular in there though.

Thanks, I have been following your thread and it is absolutely amazing. It has gave me some good ideas on how to excavate my property (where the trans paleo stuff came from).

You never know what someone might stumble upon... A guy at work found this barber (at least I think it is) and they are one of the rarest points in Texas. He only has about 20-30 points total. It is ground down both side about an inch.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4db89d01.jpg

GarGuy 07-11-2013 07:54 AM

Yep, A guy on this site went out and found a mini Clovis made of crystal a few weeks ago. It was his second or third point ever.

D-Martin 07-11-2013 08:16 AM

Some very nice finds guys, thanks for sharing I have some more I will try and post tonight, even have one I bought at trades day (before I knew better) that is suppose to be authentic but ill let ya'll be the judge.

H4 ranch 07-11-2013 08:25 AM

very nice finds..

Hawkins 07-11-2013 08:39 AM

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Anybody know what this was or how old it might be. Only kind of artifact I've ever found.

Attachment 515897

Johnny 07-11-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkins (Post 7233569)
Anybody know what this was or how old it might be. Only kind of artifact I've ever found.

Attachment 515897

Really can't put an id on that piece. That is one beat to hell arrowhead. I have found many of them and keep them too. I'm guessing a surface find?

Hawkins 07-11-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 7233770)
Really can't put an id on that piece. That is one beat to hell arrowhead. I have found many of them and keep them too. I'm guessing a surface find?

Yeah, after a heavy rain in a washout going into a tank. Figured it was pretty busted up, but thought it was neat to actually find something.

Copper87 07-13-2013 01:03 PM

would this be paleo

flaking pics
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6ad218b7.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psd8afd28c.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps745ab2f9.jpg

size reference pic
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psc87a2e6c.jpg

Skinny 07-13-2013 01:22 PM

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Skinny:D

Copper87 07-13-2013 01:26 PM

cool looking point

Copper87 07-13-2013 11:08 PM

Ttt

Take Dead Aim 07-13-2013 11:24 PM

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Any IDs would be appreciated.

explorer1 07-14-2013 07:25 AM

awesome finds guys i will try to post some recent finds soon,my dad has been pounding the creeks and has found 2 clovis and several other plainviews pics soon.

Copper87 07-14-2013 12:46 PM

Ttt

Copper87 07-14-2013 02:46 PM

Salty Mule....the broke black one has a montell look to it the other black one looks to be a langetry to me

EZ-10RANCH 07-14-2013 03:15 PM

Following

Copper87 07-14-2013 05:24 PM

Garguy, Johnny, Reelthreat.....whats your thoughts on post#67

armadillophil 07-14-2013 05:28 PM

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I spent the last few days with the family on the frio. I got away for a couple hours to dig and found this. I believe it's a angostura. Attachment 517045Attachment 517046

Copper87 07-14-2013 05:38 PM

i would say your right

Copper87 07-14-2013 06:14 PM

Ttt

armadillophil 07-14-2013 07:23 PM

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I also dug under a cliff overhang above river and was getting lots if charcoal, shells, flakes and big bones. Can anyone identify? Attachment 517092Attachment 517093Attachment 517094


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