Serious Question about College Admissions Scandal

[curtintex]

There is no question about the moral or ethical barriers crossed in this scandal. It's just another example of people softening the world for their kids. On one end you have parents paying tons of money to get unworthy kids into institutions that they'd otherwise not be admitted. In the middle, you have a man setting up a network to facilitate the moving of money from the parents willing, to the people that could actually get things done at the institution level. On the other end, you have coaches, registrars, and administrators accepting money, large amounts of money, to circumvent the normal admissions procedures and rules to admit unworthy applicants.

So the question is...and I ask this out of ignorance....what laws were broken?

As far as I know, none of this involves scholarship money, so I wonder who the victim was in these crimes besides the folks that lost a spot to these silver-spooned peckerwoods.

Does the difference between Public or Private institution matter at all?

No doubt it's a bad deal, but WHAT do they prosecute them for?

[SmTx]

I got no answer for your question.

But I'll say those that continue to make fun of the generations younger than them should take a look at why there are worthless *** kids in the world.

It's their parents fault

[curtintex]

I got no answer for your question.

But I'll say those that continue to make fun of the generations younger than them should take a look at why there are worthless *** kids in the world.

It's their parents fault

Absolutely no question. I have friends, good friends, that raised ****bird kids. Useless as teets on a boar hog. My millennial daughter says all the time that "Somebody had to raise these idiots".

[JHT]

Everything is for sale.

Always has been and will never change.

[Stuck]

I have not followed it any closer than what is being forced on me by the news, but I do believe some did involve scholarships. The news reported the UT tennis coach being involved. I honestly don’t understand why it is such a huge story. Many more deserving and hardworking students have been kept out of the university of their choice because of affirmative action than the few elite kids who have had they way paid for by their parents. While I don’t condone it, if the total number involved is 100 students spread across 15 different universities the percentage is minuscule in comparison. Kick em out, fine the parents, throw the book at the master mind and get it off my tv.

[Catfish270]

I haven’t been into all the coverage on the matter, but some of the reporting mentioned mail fraud as an area for prosecution.

[Black Ice]

Serious Question about College Admissions Scandal

There is no question about the moral or ethical barriers crossed in this scandal. It's just another example of people softening the world for their kids. On one end you have parents paying tons of money to get unworthy kids into institutions that they'd otherwise not be admitted. In the middle, you have a man setting up a network to facilitate the moving of money from the parents willing, to the people that could actually get things done at the institution level. On the other end, you have coaches, registrars, and administrators accepting money, large amounts of money, to circumvent the normal admissions procedures and rules to admit unworthy applicants.



So the question is...and I ask this out of ignorance....what laws were broken?



As far as I know, none of this involves scholarship money, so I wonder who the victim was in these crimes besides the folks that lost a spot to these silver-spooned peckerwoods.



Does the difference between Public or Private institution matter at all?



No doubt it's a bad deal, but WHAT do they prosecute them for?

It’s going on in High School just as bad for athletes. Take a private school with a 15k to 20 per year tuition and look at the athletes they have.


On one hand you have talented athletes getting paid to go to a school by rich alumni and the other you have rich folks paying for their kids to get into schools that they don’t qualify for.

Then you probably have the handler collecting a commission.

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[DaveC]

The way the media is hyping the issue and a "million dollar bond" issued to the lady actor- they act like I'm supposed to care.
I really don't.

So some people with a lot of money used it to obtain something the common man cannot.
Sounds like everyday life to me.

Hence private jet vs first class vs business class vs a bus ticket.

I'm not saying it's right or should continue, just don't understand the hype behind it.

[Muygrande]

Wire fraud, mail fraud and conspiracy to commit the above is what they have been charged with. Federal fraud statute is pretty broad and has big teeth.

[TXJIM]

If one person approaches the Yale soccer coach and says, "hey, I will give you $500,000 to lie and help my kid get into Yale." the crime is probably still there but harder to nail down. Since this was a large organized effort, a conspiracy, RICO Act laws apply for simply participating.

[TXJIM]

William Rick Singer, 58, of Newport Beach, Calif., owner of the Edge College & Career Network and CEO of the Key Worldwide Foundation, was charged in an Information with racketeering conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy, conspiracy to defraud the United States, and obstruction of justice. ... [Singer pleaded guilty on Tuesday.]

Mark Riddell, 36, of Palmetto, Fla., was charged in an Information with conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud as well as conspiracy to commit money laundering;

Rudolph "Rudy" Meredith, 51, of Madison, Conn., the former head women's soccer coach at Yale University, was charged in an Information with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and honest services wire fraud as well as honest services wire fraud;

John Vandemoer, 41, of Stanford, Calif., the former sailing coach at Stanford University, was charged in an Information with racketeering conspiracy. [Vandemoer pleaded guilty before a federal court in Boston on Tuesday.]

David Sidoo, 59, of Vancouver, Canada, was charged in an indictment with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud. Sidoo was arrested on Friday, March 8th in San Jose, Calif., and appeared in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California [on Monday]. A date for his initial appearance in federal court in Boston has not yet been scheduled.

The following defendants were charged in an indictment with racketeering conspiracy:

Igor Dvorskiy, 52, of Sherman Oaks, Calif., director of a private elementary and high school in Los Angeles and a test administrator for the College Board and ACT;

Gordon Ernst, 52, of Chevy Chase, Md., former head coach of men and women's tennis at Georgetown University;
William Ferguson, 48, of Winston-Salem, N.C., former women's volleyball coach at Wake Forest University;
Martin Fox, 62, of Houston, Texas, president of a private tennis academy in Houston;
Donna Heinel, 57, of Long Beach, Calif., the senior associate athletic director at the University of Southern California;
Laura Janke, 36, of North Hollywood, Calif., former assistant coach of women's soccer at the University of Southern California;
Ali Kho[s]roshahin, 49, of Fountain Valley, Calif., former head coach of women's soccer at the University of Southern California;
Steven Masera, 69, of Folsom, Calif., accountant and financial officer for the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation;
Jorge Salcedo, 46, of Los Angeles, Calif., former head coach of men's soccer at the University of California at Los Angeles;
Mikaela Sanford, 32, of Folsom, Calif., employee of the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation;
Jovan Vavic, 57, of Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif., former water polo coach at the University of Southern California; and
Niki Williams, 44, of Houston, Texas, assistant teacher at a Houston high school and test administrator for the College Board and ACT.

The following defendant was charged in a criminal complaint with conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud:

Michael Center, 54, of Austin Texas, head coach of men's tennis at the University of Texas at Austin

The following defendants were charged in a criminal complaint with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud:

Gregory Abbott, 68, of New York, N.Y., the founder and chairman of a food and beverage packaging company;
Marcia Abbott, 59, of New York, N.Y.;
Gamal Abdelaziz, 62, of Las Vegas, Nev., the former senior executive of a resort and casino operator in Macau, China;
Diane Blake, 55, of San Francisco, Calif., an executive at a retail merchandising firm;
Todd Blake, 53, of San Francisco, Calif., an entrepreneur and investor;
Jane Buckingham, 50, of Beverly Hills, Calif., the CEO of a boutique marketing company;
Gordon Caplan, 52, of Greenwich, Conn., co-chairman of an international law firm based in New York City;
I-Hin "Joey" Chen, 64, of Newport Beach, Calif., operates a provider of warehousing and related services for the shipping industry;
Amy Colburn, 59, of Palo Alto, Calif.;
Gregory Colburn, 61, of Palo Alto, Calif.;
Robert Flaxman, 62, of Laguna Beach, Calif., founder and CEO of real estate development firm;
Mossimo Giannulli, 55, of Los Angeles, Calif., fashion designer;
Elizabeth Henriquez, 56, of Atherton, Calif.;
Manuel Henriquez, 55, of Atherton, Calif., founder, chairman and CEO of a publicly traded specialty finance company;
Douglas Hodge, 61, of Laguna Beach, Calif., former CEO of investment management company;
Felicity Huffman, 56, of Los Angeles, Calif., an actress;
Agustin Huneeus Jr., 53, of San Francisco, Calif., owner of wine vineyards;
Bruce Isackson, 61, of Hillsborough, Calif., president of a real estate development firm;
Davina Isackson, 55, of Hillsborough, Calif.;
Michelle Janavs, 48, of Newport Coast, Calif., former executive of a large food manufacturer;
Elisabeth Kimmel, 54, of Las Vegas, Nev., owner and president of a media company;
Marjorie Klapper, 50, of Menlo Park, Calif., co-owner of jewelry business;
Lori Loughlin, 54, of Los Angeles, Calif., an actress;
Toby MacFarlane, 56, of Del Mar, Calif., former senior executive at a title insurance company;
William McGlashan Jr., 55, of Mill Valley, Calif., senior executive at a global equity firm;
Marci Palatella, 63, of Healdsburg, Calif., CEO of a liquor distribution company;
Peter Jan Sartorio, 53, of Menlo Park, Calif., packaged food entrepreneur;
Stephen Semprevivo, 53, of Los Angeles, Calif., executive at privately held provider of outsourced sales teams;
Devin Sloane, 53, of Los Angeles, Calif., founder and CEO of provider of drinking and wastewater systems;
John Wilson, 59, of Hyannis Port, Mass., founder and CEO of private equity and real estate development firm;
Homayoun Zadeh, 57, of Calabasas, Calif., an associate professor of dentistry; and
Robert Zangrillo, 52, of Miami, Fla., founder and CEO of private investment firm.

[Briar Friar]

I was wondering the same when I heard it on the radio. So...money laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud, conspiracy rackeetering, etc.

Im impressed that whats-his-face got to the test administrators.

[PondPopper]

Serious Question about College Admissions Scandal

The Universityof Texas has now been named as a school that recieved in this scam(Acording to FOX).. It will be interesting to watch this unfold... When the smoke clears on this deal There is no telling who will be implicated in this ridiculous scheme..

[Black Ice]

If one person approaches the Yale soccer coach and says, "hey, I will give you $500,000 to lie and help my kid get into Yale." the crime is probably still there but harder to nail down. Since this was a large organized effort, a conspiracy, RICO Act laws apply for simply participating.

The problem is paying the coach and it going into their pocket vs the university. That’s the problem defrauding the university is what is illegal. It’s basically theft from your employer.


If you paid me to sell hot dogs but I sold 5% of your hot dogs for profit on the side I would be stealing.






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[TXJIM]

The problem is paying the coach and it going into their pocket vs the university. That’s the problem defrauding the university is what is illegal. It’s basically theft from your employer.


If you paid me to sell hot dogs but I sold 5% of your hot dogs for profit on the side I would be stealing.






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Perhaps, breach of employment, perhaps fraud, depends on how good the lawyer is

What about the person offering the money?