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    The 2021 Thermal and Night Vision Thread

    As mentioned in the 2020 thread, it's time for a new one especially considering all of the new optics that have been released and are being released in the near future.

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      Nobody had a chance to get the Thermion XM30 out and get some video yet? This is only video I have found so far. Think as of now it should be able to do anything I could ever need or want but is nice to get to see videos of it in action first.

      [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2UeI0z39c"]Pulsar Thermion XM30 coyote hunting - YouTube[/ame]
      Last edited by westtexducks; 01-28-2021, 04:27 PM.

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        Aint nothing wrong with that image quality for $2300. For someone who needs a 3.5x base mag and doesn't want to spend a ton this is a steal.

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          The 2021 Thermal and Night Vision Thread

          Originally posted by westtexducks View Post
          Nobody had a chance to get the Thermion XM30 out and get some video yet? This is only video I have found so far. Think as of now it should be able to do anything I could ever need or want but is nice to get to see videos of it in action first.


          Yep, lot of new scopes being released and everyone is slow on getting up videos that show their capabilities. If you have enough room to need 3.5 power and it meets your budget, it appears to be a good scope. My fields aren’t big enough for that high power so I’m going with the Thermion XQ38 2.5 power on my AR and Rattler TS35 2.2 power for my handheld/loaner.
          Last edited by Lip; 01-28-2021, 05:51 PM.

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            Originally posted by Lip View Post
            Yep, lot of new scopes being released and everyone is slow on getting up videos that show their capabilities. If you have enough room to need 3.5 power and it meets your budget, it appears to be a good scope. My fields aren’t big enough for that high power so I’m going with the Thermion XQ38 2.5 power on my AR and Rattler TS35 2.2 power for my handheld/loaner.
            When funds are availible I am going to try to do what you did with the Rattler.

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              Seen several vidoes posted of the XM30 thermal on Instagram

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                Sightmark Wraith 4k max 3-24x50

                What's the skinny on these scopes? Available yet?

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                  Originally posted by gingib View Post
                  Seen several vidoes posted of the XM30 thermal on Instagram
                  I scrounged up 2-3 more on youtube but the optic has been in hands for 3 weeks at this point. Was hoping to at least have some one do an in depth review by now with some kill footage. They don't even have the XM30 on pulsars website yet which is mind boggling as well.

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                    Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
                    Sightmark Wraith 4k max 3-24x50

                    What's the skinny on these scopes? Available yet?

                    From OutdoorLegacyGear’s website: UPDATE: January 27, 2021
                    **Production has been extremely limited due to the coronavirus delays, with only a few hundred Wraith 4K's having been produced so far. Sightmark is expecting some more shipments over the coming months but because to the small production numbers expected, we are advising customers to expect at least a 4 to 5 month wait time for new back orders placed.

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                      Originally posted by Lip View Post
                      From OutdoorLegacyGear’s website: UPDATE: January 27, 2021
                      **Production has been extremely limited due to the coronavirus delays, with only a few hundred Wraith 4K's having been produced so far. Sightmark is expecting some more shipments over the coming months but because to the small production numbers expected, we are advising customers to expect at least a 4 to 5 month wait time for new back orders placed.
                      Dang!
                      Found a Wraith HD bnib for $400 earlier today.
                      Guy has 3 of them.
                      Anyone have an opinion on them...?
                      Seems they are kinda basic and eat up cr123 like nobodies business from I've been reading.

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                        Originally posted by MadHatter View Post
                        Dang!
                        Found a Wraith HD bnib for $400 earlier today.
                        Guy has 3 of them.
                        Anyone have an opinion on them...?
                        Seems they are kinda basic and eat up cr123 like nobodies business from I've been reading.
                        If you want a good scope.....run

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                          Originally posted by MadHatter View Post
                          Dang!
                          Found a Wraith HD bnib for $400 earlier today.
                          Guy has 3 of them.
                          Anyone have an opinion on them...?
                          Seems they are kinda basic and eat up cr123 like nobodies business from I've been reading.
                          The Wraith HD is not the same as a Wraith 4K pro. There are two models of the Wraith HD, 2x base magnification (newer one) and 4x base magnification (original)(4K pro is 3x). Both of these use AA batteries in the unit and 123A in the illuminator. I have not had any issues with battery life. I have however started using a Sniper Hog light with rechargeable batteries instead. I have both models, and prefer the 2x for the wider field of view. I'm typically hunting thick cover and shots are less than 100 yards. I have posted several videos on the youtube if interested. $400 is cheap, they are worth it, but pick the right one.

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                            Originally posted by GregO View Post
                            The Wraith HD is not the same as a Wraith 4K pro. There are two models of the Wraith HD, 2x base magnification (newer one) and 4x base magnification (original)(4K pro is 3x). Both of these use AA batteries in the unit and 123A in the illuminator. I have not had any issues with battery life. I have however started using a Sniper Hog light with rechargeable batteries instead. I have both models, and prefer the 2x for the wider field of view. I'm typically hunting thick cover and shots are less than 100 yards. I have posted several videos on the youtube if interested. $400 is cheap, they are worth it, but pick the right one.

                            I agree with this though I haven’t looked through the 4x. I recently bought the 2X and use the Sniper Hog Light 66 LRX Illuminator. 4X would have too narrow a field of view for me but if you’re hunting a feeder or large fields, it would probably be fine.

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                              Originally posted by GregO View Post
                              The Wraith HD is not the same as a Wraith 4K pro. There are two models of the Wraith HD, 2x base magnification (newer one) and 4x base magnification (original)(4K pro is 3x). Both of these use AA batteries in the unit and 123A in the illuminator. I have not had any issues with battery life. I have however started using a Sniper Hog light with rechargeable batteries instead. I have both models, and prefer the 2x for the wider field of view. I'm typically hunting thick cover and shots are less than 100 yards. I have posted several videos on the youtube if interested. $400 is cheap, they are worth it, but pick the right one.
                              Agree except I had the 4x and was very happy with it. I've never looked thru the 2x. Now I have the 4k and love it as well. I do mainly hunt feeders and open fields. I added the Sniper Hog light with the 4k. I've shot numerous pigs out to 125 yds at night and my kids have shot a few deer (in the day time). No complaints here.

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