School me on .30cal suppressors

[gvanwage]

Hey Y'all,

I have a 308 AR platform and a bolt action 300 WinMag, both are threaded. Lets be honest, suppressor are not cheap! My question is... with both of these rifles being .30caliber, would I be able to buy one suppressor with interchangeability between the two rifles? Are there pressure issues, etc. I basically know nothing about suppressors.

[hrdwrkncwby76]

Do you want it for suppression? Accuracy? What is your application? Do you want direct thread or quick detachment?


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[scott.str]

Yes you can do exactly what you are wanting to do. Either with a quick detach mount or a thread on.

I like QD mounts because it acts as a thread protector. You will need to make sure the suppressor is rated for 300 win mag but most now a days are pretty tough. But always plan for youd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

If you plan to put shoot lead through it get a serviceable can. Also is weight an issue or not.

I got the heaviest most robust and quietest one i could find almost my first go around. Silencerco Specwar 7.62. Still great to this day but it is heavy 24 OZ but will take the abuse of a 300 RUM.

[hrdwrkncwby76]

If you’re looking for accuracy I would look at https://thunderbeastarms.com/


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[bowaddict40]

Yes you can do exactly what you are wanting to do. Either with a quick detach mount or a thread on.

I like QD mounts because it acts as a thread protector. You will need to make sure the suppressor is rated for 300 win mag but most now a days are pretty tough. But always plan for youd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

If you plan to put shoot lead through it get a serviceable can. Also is weight an issue or not.

I got the heaviest most robust and quietest one i could find almost my first go around. Silencerco Specwar 7.62. Still great to this day but it is heavy 24 OZ but will take the abuse of a 300 RUM.

I have the same one and it is a great can. Wish they still made it. I would like to have another one.

[duckhunter175]

SilencerCo Omega 300-- probably the best all around mix of value, weight, and suppression.

[gvanwage]

Direct thread most likely. Suppression first, added accuracy second. Weight is not really an issue as I mainly stand hunt.

[scott.str]

I use the QD for this. I put in in my backpack and put it on when i get to the stand and take if off when i leave. Can do it with the thread on just seems easier in dark with a QD mount

Direct thread most likely. Suppression first, added accuracy second. Weight is not really an issue as I mainly stand hunt.

[Artos]

I run a direct between my 308 bolt & 300bo AR SBR & primarily focused on accuracy...very happy.

[TX03RUBI]

Thunderbeast isn’t the most accurate can by any means. Any QUALITY direct thread can is going to be just as accurate as the next. I’ve had an Ultra 7 (sold it) personal can, and have had just about every other TBAC can as demo units until their most recent releases the last couple of months. Great cans, and I wouldn’t hesitate to run another. I’ve drank whisky with the TBAC guys a handful of times, and don’t have a complaint about them or their service either.

I know you said suppression is your number one priority, but honestly that’s everyone’s priority when they’re new to the game. Ask them 2 years later what their priority is, and it’s usually length, weight, or mounting system. Suppression usually comes in 3rd or later. Not saying suppression isn’t a big factor, because it is. I’m saying don’t chase the quietest thing you can find. Find an acceptable suppression level, and then chase the rest of the criteria while remaining with an acceptable suppression level. If you’re looking at direct thread then that simplifies your choices a ton. You don’t have to decide which mounting system you like the best, not so you have to factor in the cost of additional mounts.

I have somewhere around 11-12 cans if I was guessing right now. I’ve sold off a lot of them over the last 3-5 years as I had no use for certain types or styles. Either the mount sucked, they weighed too much, too long, etc. I have yet to sell off a can cause it was too loud. For majority blind hunting weight SHOULDNT be too much of a factor, but that will also be dependent on your rifle. I wouldn’t put a 2 lb brick on the end of a pencil thin hunting barrel, as you’ll have massive harmonic changes increasing your POI shift. I also wouldn’t spend an extra $500-700 extra on the latest and greatest TBAC can that’s 9 oz if you’re running a bull barrel bench gun either. Now if you’re building an ultra light hunting rifle, and ounces are pounds then absolutely spend the money for the lightest best performing can you can buy. Hunting from a blind you’ll be more concerned with length than you will weight. An extra 8-9” on a 24+ inch barrel is a royal pain in the *** to try and get out of a blind window in tight quarters. A 6” can on an 18” barrel is MUCH easier. That type of thing.

Don’t get stuck on one can manufacturer or style. Buy what fits your needs, and try some out. Just because a can meters 1-2 DB quieter than the next doesn’t mean anything either. Their tone has a lot to do with how you interpret it as well. I’ve had cans that meter quieter, but the lower tone can next to it sounds way better to everyone I’ve let shoot. So trying them out will let you hear them, and meter numbers are crapshoots anyways. Very rarely do MFGs use the same testing standards in the same conditions with the same guns and the same ammo. Lol

[Japeatr]

I ordered a Dead Air Sandman S for exactly what you are describing, I bought the keymod brakes to quick connect on both rifles

[hrdwrkncwby76]

Thunderbeast isn’t the most accurate can by any means. Any QUALITY direct thread can is going to be just as accurate as the next. I’ve had an Ultra 7 (sold it) personal can, and have had just about every other TBAC can as demo units until their most recent releases the last couple of months. Great cans, and I wouldn’t hesitate to run another. I’ve drank whisky with the TBAC guys a handful of times, and don’t have a complaint about them or their service either.

I know you said suppression is your number one priority, but honestly that’s everyone’s priority when they’re new to the game. Ask them 2 years later what their priority is, and it’s usually length, weight, or mounting system. Suppression usually comes in 3rd or later. Not saying suppression isn’t a big factor, because it is. I’m saying don’t chase the quietest thing you can find. Find an acceptable suppression level, and then chase the rest of the criteria while remaining with an acceptable suppression level. If you’re looking at direct thread then that simplifies your choices a ton. You don’t have to decide which mounting system you like the best, not so you have to factor in the cost of additional mounts.

I have somewhere around 11-12 cans if I was guessing right now. I’ve sold off a lot of them over the last 3-5 years as I had no use for certain types or styles. Either the mount sucked, they weighed too much, too long, etc. I have yet to sell off a can cause it was too loud. For majority blind hunting weight SHOULDNT be too much of a factor, but that will also be dependent on your rifle. I wouldn’t put a 2 lb brick on the end of a pencil thin hunting barrel, as you’ll have massive harmonic changes increasing your POI shift. I also wouldn’t spend an extra $500-700 extra on the latest and greatest TBAC can that’s 9 oz if you’re running a bull barrel bench gun either. Now if you’re building an ultra light hunting rifle, and ounces are pounds then absolutely spend the money for the lightest best performing can you can buy. Hunting from a blind you’ll be more concerned with length than you will weight. An extra 8-9” on a 24+ inch barrel is a royal pain in the *** to try and get out of a blind window in tight quarters. A 6” can on an 18” barrel is MUCH easier. That type of thing.

Don’t get stuck on one can manufacturer or style. Buy what fits your needs, and try some out. Just because a can meters 1-2 DB quieter than the next doesn’t mean anything either. Their tone has a lot to do with how you interpret it as well. I’ve had cans that meter quieter, but the lower tone can next to it sounds way better to everyone I’ve let shoot. So trying them out will let you hear them, and meter numbers are crapshoots anyways. Very rarely do MFGs use the same testing standards in the same conditions with the same guns and the same ammo. Lol

Great information now that more factors come from the OP. Another factor that I had was space in the safe as far as DT/QD.


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[meltingfeather]

Short answer is: yes.
Just get one rated for your Winny and it will handle the .308 no problem. I don't know of any that are not rated for 300. WM but ckeck that box just to be sure.
There are plenty of good ones to choose from under the bell curve. There are no standardized tests of performance so it's basically a marketing game at this point.

[ahlongslide]

I prefer the Omega 300 for the reason TX03Rubi described. PLUS all of my rifles were set up for ASR. I might’ve looked at the Nomad if I were starting from scratch.

[RWNJRB]

To add a couple of things. Only get a titanium. Don't even look at the cheaper metal ones. If you want to know why get a 4 D cell Maglite and tape it to the end of your barrel. Enough said! Don't make the same mistake I did several years ago and get caliber specific suppressor. Get a titanium 30 cal and you can use it on all your guns less than 30 caliber just have to get the barrels threaded which is cheap. Quick attach is nice but unless you are changing several times guns several times a day direct thread is lot cheaper and just fine you just need a thread protector when suppressor is not on. If you put the 30 cal can on smaller calibers the thread will be different and you just need an adapter which is cheap. As far a take apart and user serviceable. To each their own but unless you are shooting 100's or thousands of rounds a year thru it you don't need to clean it. In fact I think mine sound more mellow when dirty. I've had sealed cans for 20 plus years and never have cleaned or sent back in to clean. then again I'm not shooting thousand rounds a year thru either. I have a couple that can be taken apart to clean but have not bothered. I have SRT arms cans. Call Doug he will answer and not BS you. I'm sure others are great as well but sometimes you are paying for advertising. Ours is the best. And like mentioned above. Your ears wont be able to tell the diffence between a couple decibles. Main thing to look for is length, weight, first round pop and point of impact shift with suppressor on vs off. SRT cans are straight down couple of inches. Depends on if I have it on a heavy or light weight barrel. One 30 can can be used on all you calibers small than 30 except I wouldnt use it on 22 LR will lead it up. Get a specific 22LR can for that. If I had to do it over again I would own 4 30 cal cans 4 22LR and couple 30 cal cans opened up to shoot 45 and 9mm all titanium of course and a couple of bolt action 22 LR intergral rifles.
Hope this helps