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    PIO and arrow angle question

    I may be jumping the gun by even thinking about this right now, because I haven't been shooting a recurve very long. Or maybe I should say at least not long with the intention of taking it seriously. I'm still trying to figure out what works and what doesn't work, both in form and setup.

    Current bow is a PSE Night Hawk with 35# limbs, that I draw to ~26.75 inches. On a scale, that comes out to about 32.5#. Arrows are Beman Centershots in 600 spine, left uncut. Shooting off the shelf.

    When I got to the point where I was grouping consistently, I tried shooting 2 bareshafts, with electrical tape wrapped at the nock end to simulate fletching weight. From 15 yards, they impacted roughly 2 inches to the left of the fletched group, on a level horizontal line. The nocks were kicked way right, like touching and through the fletched group right. This was with 125 grain points, which I knew would be stiff but they were all I could find at the time to fit.

    I found some 175 grain points to try, and shot them this morning. Bareshafts are now hitting on the same vertical line as fletched, about an inch low, but the nocks are still slightly kicked right, although not nearly as bad. When viewed from the side, the bareshafts are slightly nock high, but only very, very slightly.

    I'm not losing sleep over the tuning aspect of shooting, I'm just curious as to whether this is something I can improve on with time, or if I should even worry about it. I know next to nothing about tuning a recurve, other than the basics of stiff or weak spine and where they impact, and setting nock height. If I had issues with spine and setup with a compound I would know what to try, but I don't have a clue with this bow. Right now, the arrows are flying well and reasonably straight, and my main concern is focusing on form and process.

    #2
    Being new to it all I'd suggest don't worry about bare shafting right now. If you have any flaws in your form/release it'll have you chasing your tail while bare shafting. Just enjoy it for what it is and you'll get there.

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      #3
      Stick with the 175gr points.
      Lower your nocking point 1/32".
      Shoot until you get really used to it all, are feeling confident in your shooting.

      Once you are really used to it all, then revisit the bare shaft tuning,
      "IF" you think you need to.

      Rick

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        #4
        Curious to know if you made any progress with this.

        Online advice is often worth exactly what you paid for it.

        Wondering if lowering that nocking point a tad helped any?

        Rick

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          #5
          Slowly making headway. Lowered the nocking point down roughly two serving strands, and bare shafts are going in parallel with fletched again. Forgot to mention before, but inserts are 75 grain brass, so 250 total up front. The BS nocks are still a little right compared to fletched, but not by much. I’ve played around with hand placement, and have a better feel for what not to do. Spent a lot of time yesterday shooting with a blank white target covering the spots on the bale, and focused on a few things at a time. Did a lot of drawing, aiming, closing eyes then shooting. Found where I need to be in order to keep groups together, and it’s a much more open stance than what I use with the compound. I appreciate the help, whether free or paid My dad is one of the best shooters I’ve seen, and he could probably teach a blind man to shoot, but I don’t get to shoot with him much. And remember the saying that parents coaching their kids can be a bad idea? That applies to us, depending on what day it is, lol.

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            Originally posted by CamoQuest View Post
            Slowly making headway. Lowered the nocking point down roughly two serving strands, and bare shafts are going in parallel with fletched again. Forgot to mention before, but inserts are 75 grain brass, so 250 total up front. The BS nocks are still a little right compared to fletched, but not by much. I’ve played around with hand placement, and have a better feel for what not to do. Spent a lot of time yesterday shooting with a blank white target covering the spots on the bale, and focused on a few things at a time. Did a lot of drawing, aiming, closing eyes then shooting. Found where I need to be in order to keep groups together, and it’s a much more open stance than what I use with the compound. I appreciate the help, whether free or paid My dad is one of the best shooters I’ve seen, and he could probably teach a blind man to shoot, but I don’t get to shoot with him much. And remember the saying that parents coaching their kids can be a bad idea? That applies to us, depending on what day it is, lol.
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