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Old 05-13-2019, 03:35 PM   #1
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I heard from the realtor we purchased our property from that my neighbor that borders my north fence is wanting access through our place to do some dozer work. He has a swamp that cuts his property in half and can't access the back portion with a dozer. The realtor said he wants to basically have access at my front gate and would drive the whole length of my place to access his, and may be using some big machinery. He passed his number along to me if I wanted to call my neighbor.

I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons of allowing him to do this.

I did just plant a 1 acre spring plot with egyptian wheat screening 2 weeks ago and he wants to access through it.

I could use some dozer work to clear along my fences, a few spots of food plots, and my main access road has a deep rut in one spot that would need fixing. I'm not ready to pay to have someone do that at the moment though.

What would be a fair trade off for allowing access?
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:44 PM   #2
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I wouldn't sign anything. Handshake only, that way if someone buys the property after him you can restrict it. If someone bought the property from his kids for example, and they had access, they could put a subdivision back there... I think you know what I"m saying.
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:54 PM   #3
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If he just wants to drive his dozer in one day and a few weeks later after he is done drive it out, I'm not asking him for anything other than him being neighborly if one day I ever need him to be.
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:55 PM   #4
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Does he do dozer work for a living, or is he just a guy that rented a dozer?
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:59 PM   #5
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If he just wants to drive his dozer in one day and a few weeks later after he is done drive it out, I'm not asking him for anything other than him being neighborly if one day I ever need him to be.
I haven't contacted the neighbor yet, but the way the realtor made it sound was that he was going to do some dozer work and possibly bring out a logger as well. Made it sound like they would be driving back and forth through my place until they finished.

If he was just needing to drive through one day and then drive back out another day, I wouldn't see much of a problem with it and wouldn't be asking for anything in exchange.
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:59 PM   #6
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I would let him do it, it's always best for neighbors to get alone. Maybe he can clean up a road or something on the way in and out
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:04 PM   #7
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cut out the middle man and talk to your neighbor directly about what he wants / needs and evaluate from there.


Personally I would not go for a long term deal but if he just needs to get back there to do 1 job then I would be neighborly and let him.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:32 PM   #8
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I would be neighborly but I would also have everything in writing in minute detail,especially if he's bringing in third party contractors. If you agree, shake on it then three weeks later of them running loaded trucks being pulled in and out after the rainstorm tearing up your property who's gonna care when you complain? The 3rd party is going to say " you agreed to it", the neighbor is going to say "my bad, I didn't know". You aren't going toe happy and out a bunch of repair money.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:40 PM   #9
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cut out the middle man and talk to your neighbor directly about what he wants / needs and evaluate from there.


Personally I would not go for a long term deal but if he just needs to get back there to do 1 job then I would be neighborly and let him.
Yep. Ask him to list you on his insurance in case something happens on your property.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:46 PM   #10
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I'd have it in writing, that if anything on your property is damaged, i.e., roads or egyptian wheat, that it be put back to its original condition or compensated for its worth in dollars before the job is completed. Then I might work in a little bit of dozer work as my compensation. But not too much
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:55 PM   #11
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I'm with Jasper and Preacher. Get it in writing and make sure you are insured especially if there is a third party. Even if you draw it up yourself, it will help if things get really sideways. Call your neighbor and have him out for a beer! Everyone loves to see a little of what is on the other side of the fence!
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:59 PM   #12
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Realtor should've reached out and said hey your neighbor is trying to get in touch with you can I give him your number?

I'm with most about being neighborly with the guy but if he can't ask you himself for the favor I probably wouldn't be inclined to do it.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:02 PM   #13
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How is a realtor involved? your neighbor should just come to you, then when you get a feel for him, you can decide what the right thing to do is
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:07 PM   #14
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I would get some particulars first before you decide anything.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:09 PM   #15
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Need pics of realtor.

Odd the neighbor chose to include the 3rd party realtor, unless it is a mutual friend or something (makes me think realtor made some promises on your behalf).
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:11 PM   #16
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I'd call neighbor over for a beverage and walk your property to his whilest chewing the fat and talking like neighbors. Feel him out and go from there.

I bet for access he leave it as he found it and fix your ruts.

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Old 05-13-2019, 05:17 PM   #17
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Make sure to take plenty of good “before” pictures
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:30 PM   #18
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if has a dozer, he can build a road on his own place. if he is taking the path of least resistance and doesn't want to do that, then he may not be the one to trust even if he says he'll take care of a few things on your wish list.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:44 PM   #19
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If you decide to let him make sure it is in writing and definitely make sure it says that you are not providing any type of easement to that side of the property so that he doesn't try to clean it up and sell that side of his property and then try to pass the right of way into that piece onto you.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:45 PM   #20
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Can you post a google earth pic of yours and his ? I wanna see the swamp he can’t get around. I’m assuming he wants to sell some timber, and would rather tear up your place than cutting a road through his to go around the swamp.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:00 PM   #21
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I would agree that most has been covered already.

Nothing wrong with being neighborly, but I'd also want some facts. I mean, if he wants to go through your property with large machinery to access his, I think he should at least let you know what he's up to.

With that said, regardless of what he is up to, one issue still remains...your neighbor's inability to access the back part of his property.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:49 PM   #22
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If he just wants to drive his dozer in one day and a few weeks later after he is done drive it out, I'm not asking him for anything other than him being neighborly if one day I ever need him to be.
This - if there is no real impact on you or your property then help the guy out
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:35 PM   #23
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Can you post a google earth pic of yours and his ? I wanna see the swamp he canít get around. Iím assuming he wants to sell some timber, and would rather tear up your place than cutting a road through his to go around the swamp.
Lol that is the first thought that came to my mind

Sounds to me that basically he wants to log his place, make some money but not have to spend much to access his and not mess the front side of his up

I could be totally wrong but if I am right he is not very " neighborly "
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:53 PM   #24
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My two cents: I would probably let him walk a dozer in and out, but log trucks would be a no go for me. Log trucks or dump trucks can't seem to stay in one path. I've dealt with plenty of them.
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:45 AM   #25
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Okay, so we purchased our property right at a year ago. It's 70 acres with a creek running the whole length of my western side and then the creek splits and goes north into the center of his place. I have only met one of my neighbors as it seems most of them aren't around when I'm there. I believe most of them don't live on their places. This neighbor contacted the realtor that had listed our property in hopes of getting my contact info. The realtor said he didn't want to give out my info, but would pass his info along if he was okay with that. The realtor had said the neighbor had gained access from my neighbor to the east before when he did some logging on his place, but for some reason he wasn't wanting to contact that neighbor for access now.

I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:57 AM   #26
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Okay, so we purchased our property right at a year ago. It's 70 acres with a creek running the whole length of my western side and then the creek splits and goes north into the center of his place. I have only met one of my neighbors as it seems most of them aren't around when I'm there. I believe most of them don't live on their places. This neighbor contacted the realtor that had listed our property in hopes of getting my contact info. The realtor said he didn't want to give out my info, but would pass his info along if he was okay with that. The realtor had said the neighbor had gained access from my neighbor to the east before when he did some logging on his place, but for some reason he wasn't wanting to contact that neighbor for access now.

I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.




This is certainly what it sounds like
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:28 AM   #27
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I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.
I bet you're right on, with this thought.

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if has a dozer, he can build a road on his own place. if he is taking the path of least resistance and doesn't want to do that, then he may not be the one to trust even if he says he'll take care of a few things on your wish list.
Yep. I'd kindly suggest that he build a road now, so he could enjoy it for years to come!
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:49 AM   #28
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Okay, so we purchased our property right at a year ago. It's 70 acres with a creek running the whole length of my western side and then the creek splits and goes north into the center of his place. I have only met one of my neighbors as it seems most of them aren't around when I'm there. I believe most of them don't live on their places. This neighbor contacted the realtor that had listed our property in hopes of getting my contact info. The realtor said he didn't want to give out my info, but would pass his info along if he was okay with that. The realtor had said the neighbor had gained access from my neighbor to the east before when he did some logging on his place, but for some reason he wasn't wanting to contact that neighbor for access now.

I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.

Sounds like to me that you not only need to talk to your neighbor but also talk with his eastern neighbor that he crossed last time as well.
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Old 05-14-2019, 09:24 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=SFAbowhunter;14147742]Okay, so we purchased our property right at a year ago. It's 70 acres with a creek running the whole length of my western side and then the creek splits and goes north into the center of his place. I have only met one of my neighbors as it seems most of them aren't around when I'm there. I believe most of them don't live on their places. This neighbor contacted the realtor that had listed our property in hopes of getting my contact info. The realtor said he didn't want to give out my info, but would pass his info along if he was okay with that. The realtor had said the neighbor had gained access from my neighbor to the east before when he did some logging on his place, but for some reason he wasn't wanting to contact that neighbor for access now.

I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.[/QUOTE]


RED FLAG!
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:00 AM   #30
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I’d just call the guy and let him do it with the understanding that he’d clean up any major mess he might make. He’s your neighbor...

If one of my neighbors came at me with a legal document (that didn’t involve a permanent easement or something like that) I’d be a little put off.

Potentially getting sideways with a neighbor over access in an absentee ownership situation seems like a nightmare waiting to happen.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:01 AM   #31
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Okay, so we purchased our property right at a year ago. It's 70 acres with a creek running the whole length of my western side and then the creek splits and goes north into the center of his place. I have only met one of my neighbors as it seems most of them aren't around when I'm there. I believe most of them don't live on their places. This neighbor contacted the realtor that had listed our property in hopes of getting my contact info. The realtor said he didn't want to give out my info, but would pass his info along if he was okay with that. The realtor had said the neighbor had gained access from my neighbor to the east before when he did some logging on his place, but for some reason he wasn't wanting to contact that neighbor for access now.

I plan to call the neighbor and talk it over with him. I have a feeling that whatever he did last time with my eastern neighbor didn't go so well, so now he's trying to find a different entrance.
Talk to the neighbor to the east... see what messed up their agreement.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:16 AM   #32
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Talk to the neighbor to the east... see what messed up their agreement.
THIS for sure!
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