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Originally posted by WItoTX View PostNo problems here. If they could get hunters to take them, and sell licenses for it, making a little extra money to manage their wildlife better, that would be even better. But I can only imagine what those tree huggers up there would do if they saw that.
"We have to stop lion hunting! It's barbaric!"
Okay done
"Oh MY God There are mountain lions every where! Someone do something!"
Okay, we will have state agents go out and kill every one they find
"Thank goodness! Thank you State! Now I can go to that anti hunting rally without fear of getting mauled."
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Originally posted by Capt.Brown View PostI think they should let nature take its course, if the steelhead goes extinct then that’s what nature intended
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Originally posted by Capt.Brown View PostI think they should let nature take its course, if the steelhead goes extinct then that’s what nature intended
You have to include mankind in your definition of nature, or admit that it isn't a natural happening.
I see it this way:
1. declare we are above the system, and not part of the natural order (usually a religious argument, but that begs the question about being good stewards).
Or:
2. decide we are part of the system, in which case we act an awful lot like wild hogs. Just with a much higher tolerance for cold and flying.
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Originally posted by Capt.Brown View PostI think they should let nature take its course, if the steelhead goes extinct then that’s what nature intended
Now a fish has to navigate 8 dams on the Columbia and Snake, their associated fish ladders, slack water, sunbathing seals, and the tribes netting them, before it ever hits Idaho water.
Hogboy
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Originally posted by diamond10x View Postx2. I just don't agree with the govt doing any of the removal or controlling, this should be left to the public through license and permit/tag sales.
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My guess is that the Marine Mammal Protection Act would have to be amended to allow hunts by non-governmental entities or "natives". I've always had a problem with two facets of this act. Number one, what is so special about marine mammals as compared to all other mammals that they cannot be sustainably harvested? Number two, why is it OK for "native peoples" to harvest marine mammals, but nobody else? I thought we were all created equal, or is that just a slogan?
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Originally posted by ultrastealth View PostMy guess is that the Marine Mammal Protection Act would have to be amended to allow hunts by non-governmental entities or "natives". I've always had a problem with two facets of this act. Number one, what is so special about marine mammals as compared to all other mammals that they cannot be sustainably harvested? Number two, why is it OK for "native peoples" to harvest marine mammals, but nobody else? I thought we were all created equal, or is that just a slogan?
The natives are a sovereign people and the laws of the US apply to them differently through various treaties, they are basically a different nation.
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Do whatever it takes.
Looks like this place is dang near in city limits of Portland so I don’t see how hunting is possible? Plus who’d kill a sea lion? Lol
We are the primary cause of the steelhead decline so whatever we can do to help is a plus. Unfortunately ****s and other manmade structures along rivers will probably lead to their extinction
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