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Old 07-21-2019, 11:23 PM   #1
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So I haven’t seen a single WT or exotics on my cams for over two weeks now. I still have tons of hogs coming in at night but nothing else. What I have noticed is tons of crows hanging around the feeder from sun up til about 10am. They show up again about an hour or two before sunset. Are these pesky crows keeping the deer away from the feeder and if so, what are some remedies to keep them away? Thanks

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Old 07-21-2019, 11:28 PM   #2
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Shootem in da face!!!!
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:36 PM   #3
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Out of curiosity, did you let your feeders go dry? Unfortunately ours ran empty toward the end of June and ever since activity has been slow at best despite having been full almost a month.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:40 PM   #4
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buy a bag of sweet feed/golden deer nuggets/protein put it in a pile at your feeder they'll find it
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:54 PM   #5
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Rock springs area has lots of small tracts and is heavily hunted. May have found better vittles elsewhere
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:55 PM   #6
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I think you’ve got Grackels and they are some pesky suckers. Get you a fake owl or snakes and put near your feeder.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:59 PM   #7
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Could it be the crows are eating all the corn before the deer have a chance? Maybe with all the rain the deer are eating more natural feeds.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:01 AM   #8
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I check my feeders on a weekly basis and they never run dry. I’ve been feeding apple scented corn for about a month now. WT just vanished. Might have to up my feed game with some cottonseed and alfalfa. I did see a young turkey for the first time. It appeared it was chasing the crows away from the feeder lol.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:14 AM   #9
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it is crows not grackles I have them too. but I still have plenty of WT and axis coming in.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:12 AM   #10
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I hunted in Rockspring 2 years ago. From January to July we had a ton of Axis and then they disappeared until the following January. We never really had a bunch of Whitetail, but once season started, I never saw one while hunting
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:32 AM   #11
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I'm on 40 ac low fence and I have plenty. nothing huge as far as wt go but avg hill country bucks. and as many axis as pigs, but they like to roam so I may not see them for weeks at a time and then others they wont let the wt near the feeders.
water is key.
and I'm out there working on something several time a month so they are used to the activity.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:10 AM   #12
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Id say itís too late to run cotton seed, but I donít have much experience with it. Iíd do more hand corn if possible on fence lines and put up some fake owls around feeders. If you have the money and time maybe throw up some fencing around a few feeders to give the deer space from hogs while they feed. A lot of the places Iíve hunted in your area have difficult access to food for deer on smaller tracts of land. Having clear cut paths for deer to come in and eat will help. If you donít have any good water holes maybe bury some of those plastic bins and fill them up with water not far from the feeders.


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Old 07-22-2019, 06:56 AM   #13
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Pen your feeders in.
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:09 AM   #14
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I’d bet those are ravens you’re seeing and not crows. Haven’t ever seen them scare any animals from feeders.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:10 AM   #15
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Iíd bet those are ravens youíre seeing and not crows. Havenít ever seen them scare any animals from feeders.
"Ravens are as big as Red-tailed Hawks, and crows are about the size of pigeons. The raven is all black, has a 3.5-4 ft wingspan and is around 24-27 inches from head to tail. The crow is also black, has a 2.5 ft wingspan and is about 17 inches long."

Crows are what come into my feeder pens sometimes in large groups and are loud sunny beaches. Don't see any deer when they flock in...
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:12 AM   #16
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I always thought crows were typically a misidentification for grackles?
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:17 AM   #17
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I check my feeders on a weekly basis and they never run dry. Iíve been feeding apple scented corn for about a month now. WT just vanished. Might have to up my feed game with some cottonseed and alfalfa. I did see a young turkey for the first time. It appeared it was chasing the crows away from the feeder lol.
Might be your answer

Maybe they don't like the apple

I would change back and see what happens

Other than that, one or more of your neighbors is offering better groceries
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:17 AM   #18
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It's July... Deer are in their summer pattern. With as much rain that Texas has gotten, they have plenty to eat and don't have to come to feeders now. Their movement is minimal at best. They're not traveling any further than they have to for food/water/bedding.

Corn is to a deer like M&M's are to us. Sure, they taste good but you can't live off of it unless you absolutely have to.

They'll start coming back towards the end of August.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:18 AM   #19
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Hunting crows is fun.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:40 AM   #20
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"Ravens are as big as Red-tailed Hawks, and crows are about the size of pigeons. The raven is all black, has a 3.5-4 ft wingspan and is around 24-27 inches from head to tail. The crow is also black, has a 2.5 ft wingspan and is about 17 inches long."

Crows are what come into my feeder pens sometimes in large groups and are loud sunny beaches. Don't see any deer when they flock in...
Right, I know the difference between the two I do most of my hunting in the Rocksprings area and there are Ravens. I have Nat-Geo quality video of ravens with sika/wt/axis at feeders; not saying they donít run them off I just havenít seen it.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:56 AM   #21
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If you have "tons" of hogs showing up at feeders, then you are wasting corn. I would turn the feeders off and build a pen out of hog panels and enclose the feeders. More than likely you still have deer around but they are feeding somewhere else because you have too much pressure from the hogs.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:11 AM   #22
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This is a small example of the ravens/crows visiting my feeder twice a day everyday for the last 2wks. They start coming in just after sunup and stay for several hours. Then they show up again about 2 to 3 hrs before sunset and stay til just before sunset. In other pics I've counted over 40 birds at the feeder. The WT were still coming around even with the high hog activity prior to the ravens/crows coming in.

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Old 07-22-2019, 10:29 AM   #23
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Disregard what I said, those are crows. Never seen flocks of them like that in Camp Wood; only ravens and usually in pairs.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:31 AM   #24
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Looks like a case of the birds
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:32 AM   #25
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Just a possibility, but crows and ravens will flock to carrion, and there has been a anthrax outbreak south of Sonora. I have an unconfirmed report from near Montell too.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:50 AM   #26
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Would owl decoys work or is lead shot the only option?
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:07 AM   #27
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crow hunts are a blast and looks like you have plenty of targets, go get em.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:12 AM   #28
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Always take out the scout first!
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:13 AM   #29
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Other then a few does here and there at our place nothing is hitting the corn but they are hammering the protein. We had a protein feeder run out of protein I put some corn cotton seed in it because thatís all I had with me at the time. Before the protein ran out we had about 6 bucks hitting it nightly. They didnít touch that corn cotton seed . But during January and February they wouldnít touch the protein but hammered the corn cotton seed mix . So who knows.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:33 AM   #30
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:35 AM   #31
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Would this work for feeder pens?
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:40 AM   #32
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Would this work for feeder pens?
I've used it and it worked, but you need to space the tposts pretty closely or pigs will just push under them. Bottom wire has to be pretty tight to the ground.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:42 AM   #33
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That’ll work for a pen.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:53 AM   #34
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:15 PM   #35
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It's July... Deer are in their summer pattern. With as much rain that Texas has gotten, they have plenty to eat and don't have to come to feeders now. Their movement is minimal at best. They're not traveling any further than they have to for food/water/bedding.

Corn is to a deer like M&M's are to us. Sure, they taste good but you can't live off of it unless you absolutely have to.

They'll start coming back towards the end of August.
This is what I have always seen happen.
Especially in Sterling Co.
Deer are on the filaree and other forbes right now. They also love them some cedar berries this time of year too and any tender green shoots growing on about any kind of brush. Does with fawns are sticking close to cover for the most part in daylight with some open land browsing at night.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:23 PM   #36
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Crows eating all corn before deer get there. Shoot the crows. I mean put up owls or snakes. This will probably solve your mystery.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:27 PM   #37
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This is a small example of the ravens/crows visiting my feeder twice a day everyday for the last 2wks. They start coming in just after sunup and stay for several hours. Then they show up again about 2 to 3 hrs before sunset and stay til just before sunset. In other pics I've counted over 40 birds at the feeder. The WT were still coming around even with the high hog activity prior to the ravens/crows coming in.

A couple of shotgun blasts and a few dead crows on the ground and they will leave. Be sure and kill the leader of that murder. Leader is usually the biggest blackest shiniest bird and shows dominance. Leave the dead crows on the ground where they fall to warn other crows off. Without a leader they won't come back until they get a new leader. Crows are about the most intelligent bird there is. You can fool them only one time. After that they scout out the place before coming in. Grackles are similar in intelligence and social make up and the grackle murders always have a leader as well. In my backyard I use a Gamo to kill the grackle leaders and the rest hightail it and don't come back.

Oh and them are crows!
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:37 PM   #38
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I've used it and it worked, but you need to space the tposts pretty closely or pigs will just push under them. Bottom wire has to be pretty tight to the ground.
He probably wont get a t post in the ground out there, better off rolling a 18 inch circle out of mesh fence and fillin it with rocks. That goat wire in your picture wont hold back a big pig, Tractor supply carries hog panels that are 16' long. Make you a 32' pen and put your water trough inside the pen too.

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If you have "tons" of hogs showing up at feeders, then you are wasting corn. I would turn the feeders off and build a pen out of hog panels and enclose the feeders. More than likely you still have deer around but they are feeding somewhere else because you have too much pressure from the hogs.
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:25 PM   #40
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Went and got me some crow and coon medicine. Hehehehehe
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:10 PM   #41
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pen with hog panels has been a game changer for me. deer come in every feeding since hogs can't get to it.
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:18 PM   #42
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:37 PM   #43
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I think youíve got Grackels and they are some pesky suckers. Get you a fake owl or snakes and put near your feeder.
That's a great idea.
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:37 PM   #44
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Round pens with cattle panels don’t need many posts.
I would use some trees if possible and a t posts without the blades with a
Pneumatic driver.
I would probably use shields to keep corn in the pens and feed before daylight and after dark for a while to eliminate the bird issues
Try some alfalfa to feed the deer. Works well in bandera county

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FYI orchard guys here hang the dead crows with strings from limbs. Predators can’t get the carcasses.
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Old 07-27-2019, 11:21 PM   #45
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I may be wrong but I swear there’s a guy that says this every year.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:14 AM   #46
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Has that anthrax outbreak reached that area?
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:58 PM   #47
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Has that anthrax outbreak reached that area?
Man, that has me worried. Heading out in a bit to see whatís going on.
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I was in the stand one time and they all came in at once. Scared the hell
Out of me. Had no idea they were coming
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