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    Value of Life

    I usually don't post much but this really pizzes me off!!
    This really hit a nerve with me on what the system values a human life. Dallas over the weekend a police officer was hit and killed by a suspected DWI offender. He was arrested and bond was set at 76000 dollars. The value of this officers life was $7600. My little sister was murdered and the murder's bond $35000 putting a value of 3500 on my sisters life. I'm sick of the system having no respect for the families. When will this ever stop!!

    #2
    It won't. Unfortunately dwi punishment won't change, too many politicians drinking and don't want to get reamed like someone should for drinking and driving. Liberal society screams we are being to tough on criminals.
    Prayers up for your Family and God Bless your Sister.
    Last edited by DUKFVR; 07-23-2018, 07:01 AM.

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      #3
      I agree with you.
      however Innocent until proven guilty is a pretty important aspect that gets trampled on (not saying your cases or even the majority of cases) daily though and I understand the need for it.

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        #4
        I agree with you, if the evidence is very strong that they are guilty then the bond should be so high the normal person couldn't bond out on any kind of life ending event. Unfortunately I think that money and space is the main issue with these bonds.

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          #5
          Sr. Corporal Givens was set to retire in a couple of months. After 32 yrs. of service.


          He was escorting a fellow officer, who passed from cancer, to Canton,, where he was to be escorted to LA. For burial.

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            #6
            10% of the offender's bond does not equate to the value of the victim's loss.

            I hear your frustration, and am sorry for your loss.

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              #7
              Originally posted by systemnt View Post
              I agree with you.
              however Innocent until proven guilty is a pretty important aspect that gets trampled on (not saying your cases or even the majority of cases) daily though and I understand the need for it.
              I agree with this, and this guy will very likely pay bigtime AFTER proven guilty. Give it time.

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                #8
                Originally posted by deerplanter View Post
                I agree with you, if the evidence is very strong that they are guilty then the bond should be so high the normal person couldn't bond out on any kind of life ending event. Unfortunately I think that money and space is the main issue with these bonds.
                I am 99% sure it was a drunk driving, but there are other things that look like it that wouldn't be. Again not likely, but the innocent till proven guilty is to protect the 1%.

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                  #9
                  Roe vs Wade set the value of life in the USA...and it is cheap.

                  Prayers for the fallen officers family.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrianL View Post
                    I agree with this, and this guy will very likely pay bigtime AFTER proven guilty. Give it time.
                    I guess everyone’s definition of big time is different. Max sentence is 20 years. If the jury rules that a deadly weapon was used (the vehicle) he’d have to serve half before parole eligible. Depending on prior record and good behavior he could be out in 10. I could be wrong but I also understand that if not already a convicted felon then probation could be in play. In theory, dude could serve just one night in jail. Someone let me know if my understanding is wrong.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                      I agree with you.
                      however Innocent until proven guilty is a pretty important aspect that gets trampled on
                      (not saying your cases or even the majority of cases) daily though and I understand the need for it.
                      X2.

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                        #12
                        This happened on Saturday morning right? What was the dude doing drunk already on Saturday morning????? Partied all night and into the next day or what? The insanity never stops. RIP officer Givens. This is just so sad.

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                          #13
                          There was plenty of times that I saw (and reported) drunk drivers on hwy 59 at 5/6am on way to e.tx lease...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by brysdad View Post
                            I guess everyone’s definition of big time is different. Max sentence is 20 years. If the jury rules that a deadly weapon was used (the vehicle) he’d have to serve half before parole eligible. Depending on prior record and good behavior he could be out in 10. I could be wrong but I also understand that if not already a convicted felon then probation could be in play. In theory, dude could serve just one night in jail. Someone let me know if my understanding is wrong.
                            This guys crime; intoxication manslaughter with death, is punishable from 5 years to life if found guilty. 76k bond is normal and reasonable for this offense. Usually the offenders cannot make bail but this guy did. He will be tried and more than likely found guilty since he blew nearly 3x legal.

                            Then and only then will the officers life value be determined.

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                              #15
                              I guess it is fortunate that the alleged offender was given a bond. Many places have done away with bail bonds altogether because they are deemed unfair. It would be normal in places to be released on recognizance for allegedly committing that type of crime.

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