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Old 11-02-2018, 12:37 PM   #201
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:38 PM   #202
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Wow! Reading this is a sad reality of what deer hunting has turned into in many cases. So many rules that you can't just go enjoy the outdoors without being worried about what you can or can't shoot. It's a deer! There's more of them, and will continue to be year after year. Take all your game cameras down and you won't have these problems. Just hunt and feel blessed for what shows up when you're there. We did it for years and didn't have these issues. No guarantee that deer even makes it to 6.5, or that anyone would ever see that deer again. Then what? Nobody gets to enjoy the harvest? If somebody is abusing a situation, or breaking the state laws put in place, then I get it and it should be addressed, but everybody has different reasons for hunting and why they are doing it. Deer with antlers make men act real funny. First world problems!
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:38 PM   #203
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Sounds like your only rule is that a buck has to be 5.5. So when did y’all decide to put this 5.5 yr old on the no-shoot list? After the offending member already paid his money and put in the time and effort to have a stand set up? If the only rule prior to the season was that trophies must be 5.5, then he didn’t break a rule. Sounds like he did break a gentlemen’s agreement that you and the other lease members have regarding this one particular buck.. I see fault on both sides. Either way, he’s not a fit with your group evidently and y’all should move on your separate ways next year
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:38 PM   #204
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I'm heading to my lease now.. Reading this post almost makes me want to turn around and go back home... I guess Some people dont have enough REAL problems!!!
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:38 PM   #205
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Getting on a forum to ask "what do you think" on something like this makes it seem like you can't decide. Then as you post more it's pretty obvious you think he broke a rule. If that warrants kicking him off per the "rules", do it and go on with life. This thread is no different than any other "what would you do," thread where someone wants "opinions", then once you give an opinion, they want to debate it with you. Add in all the confusing details and it's no wonder everyone is lost.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:49 PM   #206
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We have a situation a Buck was shot that was on a no hit list but appears to be 5.5 which we said on the Rules bucks 5.5 and older are allowed!! But we had this buck on the no hit list because we thought he could get better next year at 6.5 !!


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if you did not give him a specific clear photo of the deer and tell him not to shoot it, he did nothing wrong
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:49 PM   #207
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Getting on a forum to ask "what do you think" on something like this makes it seem like you can't decide. Then as you post more it's pretty obvious you think he broke a rule. If that warrants kicking him off per the "rules", do it and go on with life. This thread is no different than any other "what would you do," thread where someone wants "opinions", then once you give an opinion, they want to debate it with you. Add in all the confusing details and it's no wonder everyone is lost.
It's not that simple, looks like what "they" really want is to gossip and bicker at the lease because other members are ******. Some members were probably already mad because this member parked in their usual parking spot and helped them selves to some lunch meat in the fridge that was on the not for sharing list.

We don't really know if the deer was killed or even injured. All we know is that supposedly the guy took a shot at the deer which would generally be considered ok to shoot but in this special case might have been put on a list but had been discussed to not be put on the list.

I'm going to go give everyone I hunt with a freaking hug when I see them and bring some new community gear to share. Really glad I don't hunt somewhere like this.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:50 PM   #208
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So you do or do not have an up coming opening on this lease?
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:54 PM   #209
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So you do or do not have an up coming opening on this lease?
If so I bet one of these other members that is so ****** off probably has a guy that wants to get on.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:56 PM   #210
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This lease sounds like a pain in the arse. I go to my lease for fun with my friends, not to get into a battle over arbitrary rules made up on the fly over speculation of growth.

I honestly cannot believe that I read the whole thread without breaking out the Tito's.

Adios to this lease.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:57 PM   #211
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I've recently adapted to "No Shoot bucks" should be agreed on by all. No need to have a rule for no shoot bucks. If everyone on the lease wants to have a no shoot buck , then everyone wants to have the deer live just as bad as someone seeking to shoot any other target buck. If everyone truly wants to walk a particular buck, mistakes aren't going to happen. When one person or a handful of members are wanting the "no shoot" policy on a deer more so than other members on the lease, that's when I see the most problems.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:00 PM   #212
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We have a situation a Buck was shot that was on a no hit list but appears to be 5.5 which we said on the Rules bucks 5.5 and older are allowed!! But we had this buck on the no hit list because we thought he could get better next year at 6.5 !!


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rules were followed, let it go.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:04 PM   #213
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I would be more concerned about the fact that he tried to hide him shooting the buck and not recovering him.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:09 PM   #214
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Sounds like a lot of yíall guys just go shoot whatever you feel like you want to shoot which is fine if everyone agreed to that on the lease


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:09 PM   #215
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I'm heading to my lease now.. Reading this post almost makes me want to turn around and go back home... I guess Some people dont have enough REAL problems!!!
Dont turn around! The weather was nice this morning and the bucks are starting to put noses to the ground!
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:11 PM   #216
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I'm heading to my lease now.. Reading this post almost makes me want to turn around and go back home... I guess Some people dont have enough REAL problems!!!


O trust me I got bigger problems then this on my plate this just helps me forget it !!


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:11 PM   #217
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One of these him?

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:12 PM   #218
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Back button..
Yep. Seems very prudent, I only read to here and back button for me too.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:12 PM   #219
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If anyone tried to pull this girly gossip crap on our place they would immediacy be sent to the cooler for the rest of the season and then then kicked off. We drink, shoot *** and have a real good time, drink more, eat real good and have more of a good time. No time for this nonsense!
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:14 PM   #220
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I don’t want to be that lease manager that changed the rules for one guy what do I do we did talk about this buck maybe going on the list because we thought he was 5.5 but never made that clear with all the members !!


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You are that lease manager for bringing it up. It was never made it clear. He followed the rules. Give him a high 5 and go on. The more of your post I read on the first page the more I'd get off the lease. You say two different things several times. I think this guy better get off the lease before you find a way to screw him.

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:15 PM   #221
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I think a general rule about age and number of mature deer can be acceptable rules for the management of the property. But I agree too many rules can cloud the excitement of hunting in general. Sitting in the blind and worrying about making someone getting mad if you shoot this deer takes the fun right out. However, IF rules are set they should be followed if you dont agree theres the door find a new place.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:15 PM   #222
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I just enjoy this forum and brought up something that we had a issue with is all Iím not trying to say anyone of you is wrong are right and I donít care if you agree are disagree the situation. Iím sorry I brought it up but it is about bowhunting and not any off the wall stuff !!


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:17 PM   #223
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So it was confusing at first but what I’m getting is

1) Buck at question was on no shoot list then brought to the table to take off since he was of age (5.5) but it was decided against because he could be bigger at 6.5.

2) communication of point one was understood by most but seems to have not been communicated properly to everyone on the lease

3) Member in question sounds like he knew but was unclear. Buck in question walked out, he decided to shoot, and couldn’t find it.

4) Since this buck was already a iffy situation the member didn’t say a word until someone else pointed it out

Is that correct?

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:19 PM   #224
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Yes sir it is one of those bucks and no he didnít blow up like we thought he might so we All agreed heck letís let him slide one more season!!


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:19 PM   #225
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So it was confusing at first but what Iím getting is

1) Buck at question was on no shoot list then brought to the table to take off since he was of age (5.5) but it was decided against because he could be bigger at 6.5.

2) communication of point one was understood by most but seems to have not been communicated properly to everyone on the lease

3) Member in question sounds like he knew but was unclear. Buck in question walked out, he decided to shoot, and couldnít find it.

4) Since this buck was already a iffy situation the member didnít say a word until someone else pointed it out

Is that correct?


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:22 PM   #226
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Simple question regarding your rules. What's the rule for drawing blood? If you draw blood but don't find a deer, is that considered a harvest toward your limits on the lease even though you haven't used a tag? I'm not as concerned with the fact that he shot a buck "not on the no hit list on the hit list never on a no shot hit list" as I am with you can't have members drawing blood and not being held responsible for it. While I'm not a fan of big leases and all the rules that could be set, I understand the need for it all. I just hope he's done on bucks for the season since he got a buck and drew blood on another one.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:24 PM   #227
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Shoot him!
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:24 PM   #228
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Eat the deer and everyone chill out


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:25 PM   #229
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The offending lease member wasn't added to the shoot list before the season started. They figured he was gonna blowed up next season.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:25 PM   #230
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I think we all know what the deer lease rule breaker deserves....
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:27 PM   #231
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Well first communication has to get better which I believe has been established in this thread. With that punishment on the particular deer shot can’t really occur in my opinion.

Secondly, what’s the policy on drawing blood? And the policy for hiding the fact they tried shooting a deer and not saying a word about it until confronted? This is where I would be very concerned

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:28 PM   #232
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Like you stated, we talked about, MAYBE, putting this buck on the list, and, NEVER, made it clear to all the members. If your going to have rules about what game can and can't be taken, ALL members need to have clarification on the rules. Because, Maybe, doesn't clarify the rule. And it does not do any good to clarify a rule when only part of your group knows about it. Sounds to me like you dropped the ball. If you are the manager of the lease, then be a manager. It's a done deal. Explain to all the members that mistakes were made. And as a manager, it was your responsibility to make sure all members new what the rule was for taking game, and not using the excuse of well 5.5 and up, oh but wait, maybe we might skip this one, and fail to make that specifically clear to everyone.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:31 PM   #233
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This thread just makes me do a "Captain Picard."

Wow just wow.

I really wish the accused or other lease members would find there way here or the OP would tell them about it. It could hit new levels then.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:39 PM   #234
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:40 PM   #235
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Well first communication has to get better which I believe has been established in this thread. With that punishment on the particular deer shot canít really occur in my opinion.

Secondly, whatís the policy on drawing blood? And the policy for hiding the fact they tried shooting a deer and not saying a word about it until confronted? This is where I would be very concerned


He drew blood thatís his trophy he is done for the year especially since he already shot a buck the week before!!


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:41 PM   #236
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Did I mention it was a Rage broad head as well lol !!!


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Old 11-02-2018, 01:41 PM   #237
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Going Tuna Fishing with a bunch of TBH'ers....this week.

EVERYTHING IS ON THE HIT LIST!

No Management drama out there and it's all low fence

If the place has rules and a rule has been broken - then it's ADIOS.

Pretty straight forward. And it applies to a lot of things in life.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:47 PM   #238
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This must be a small high fence ranch if ya'll know the age of each and every buck. Aging deer on the hoof ain't that exact. Neither is pulling jawbones.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:49 PM   #239
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Guy shoots the biggest mature buck of his life and gets hammered for it that’s bout right. That deer more than likely ain’t gonna “blow up” with another year. He’s mature now and prolly as big as he’s gonna get give or take a few inches next year. Whether he’s shot this year or next he’s just as dead and either way someone’s gonna be happy about it. Unless y’all are just mad y’all didn’t get the chance. Which is what it sounds like. Guy deserves an apology for the BS given to him and move on. You just can’t have a “shoot bucks at 5.5” policy and then get mad when you personally don’t want to shoot the deer and someone else did. If I was him I wouldn’t let y’all have a decision I just wouldn’t be back. Crap like this is what’s gonna shy people away from hunting cause you can’t just go and have fun. Pay all that money for a lease and shoot a big deer and get flamed for it. It’s really sad
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:51 PM   #240
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Had a lease "manager" like this, glad I only hunt public lands now.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:52 PM   #241
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Ok. Well I'm turning back around then..Heading north!!!
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:53 PM   #242
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Broad head was too confused whether or not the blades should be deployed because the buck was most definitely maybe should of for sure on the no kill probable shoot list.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:55 PM   #243
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I am not so sure why people reading this are not getting that there are 2 lists

a "no shoot list"
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a "shoot list"

he was ON the "no shoot list" and they had talked about the deer being put on the "shoot list" but had decided against it
Wouldn't the fact that they aren't on the "No shoot list" make them "shootable", provided they are of the 5.5 age? Why muddy it with another list?
I swear, this thread is more confusing than a set of instructions for an IKEA bunk bed.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:55 PM   #244
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Its been reported you shot a deer and aren't on their lease.

You owe OP the lease dues and the deer.

And you're no longer allowed to hunt there. Because you weren't on the lease anyway.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:59 PM   #245
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If I were to hunt there, I'd probably have my lawyer go over everything beforehand and let him sit in the blind to give me the all clear. And that's all I got to say about that.
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:00 PM   #246
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If I were to hunt there, I'd probably have my lawyer go over everything beforehand and let him sit in the blind to give me the all clear. And that's all I got to say about that.
Which is why ranches you're on won't reach their true potential

I bet your an OLD timer
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:01 PM   #247
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If I were to hunt there, I'd probably have my lawyer go over everything beforehand and let him sit in the blind to give me the all clear. And that's all I got to say about that.
Ha thatís funny but kinda true
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:05 PM   #248
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Nothing about this thread is plain and simple!!
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:10 PM   #249
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Which is why ranches you're on won't reach their true potential b

I bet your an OLD timer


Dude, take your stir stick elsewhere. Iím not biting. Go troll the newbies.

What really cracks me up is the majority of guys get on a lease and all of a sudden turn into fín wildlife biologists.
I donít lease.

Edit: I think my sarcasm meter is broken.

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Old 11-02-2018, 02:17 PM   #250
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If this is the first time this has happened with any of the guys Iíd call it a freebie. He didnít ďbreak the rulesĒ he just wanted to shoot a buck some thought should last another year. Rewrite lease agreements and state ďif a deer is killed by lease member that were put on a do not kill list until lease manager approves: you will have your lease terminated without refundĒ. Carry on!


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