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Old 03-05-2019, 08:18 AM   #1
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We all have opinions. Some matter, some don't. But think this question, What makes the USA, the USA?

On one hand since we elect the politicians should there be no line in the sand?

Or where should this line be drawn?

IMO quite a few Dems are already stepping way over the line.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:20 AM   #2
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Time to execute the politicians for treason & start over. Actually past time.
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Someone better start listening for the helicopters over their house.... ^^^^^
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:59 AM   #4
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We all have opinions. Some matter, some don't. But think this question, What makes the USA, the USA?

On one hand since we elect the politicians should there be no line in the sand?

Or where should this line be drawn?

IMO quite a few Dems are already stepping way over the line.
You make the first move.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:39 AM   #5
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About a year ago.
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...don't know what the trigger will be, but it's a comin'... an' when the SHTF, it's going to be real bad I fear... I guess I'm about as prepared as I can be and I stay in at least the yellow mode to be as vigilant as I can be and still try to function normally in my daily life's walk...
I truly think most of us don't want trouble and hope it doesn't come to out 'n out violence, but I also think we'd be derelict in our duties if we did not prepare for it.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:58 AM   #7
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It's been interesting to see the far left call for violence, when their entire political stance has always been for promoting "peace". Luckily most of them are harmless nerds.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:29 PM   #8
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It's been interesting to see the far left call for violence, when their entire political stance has always been for promoting "peace". Luckily most of them are harmless nerds.
Thatís something that baffles me as well but the demo-rat way of thinking doesnít register with decent people anyway so I guess why bother. I hope it doesnít come to that but they may want to watch out what they wish for...
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It's been interesting to see the far left call for violence, when their entire political stance has always been for promoting "peace". Luckily most of them are harmless nerds.
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Most people don't fight, and if they do, they aren't that good at it.

Fights also come in many forms. You could ruin someone these days without even laying a hand on them.
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Im not sure how what fighting back looks like other than expressing an opinion and voting. Sure, I'd like to think the fight might actually be a fight but 99.99999% of people cant afford to loose their career by breaking antifa legs, or trying to remove politictions. It app res ars that the Democrats are quickly pushing the country to a point where careers be ****ed something has to be done. When Trump wins a second term the lib socialists will likely burn down some cities.
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We missed our first window back when Barry Hussein was handed, yes handed, the Oval office for round 2..

Our second chance is just around the corner.. We will blow it too and our kids and grand kids will have socialism forced on them.. This country as we know it will be over.. We are a weak populous.. We are preoccupied by many things that we believe to be more important than freedom itself.... Hell not even half of registered conservatives even go vote.... Do you think they care enough to put their life on the line??? Aint gonna happen....

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The people did fight back in the 2016 president election and the left is trying to make an example out of Trump to warn anyone in the future of what they will do to you if you try to change the course that they have this country on.
Trump is just the face of who they are attacking but make no mistake it is those that voted for him that they are after. There is a true crisis at our southern border and you see what the democrats are focused on and where the spend their efforts at.
I think as long as we continue to live in comfort nothing will happen BUT if the day comes where we are looking at something even remotely close to Venezuela there will be a civil war and it will be very violent and ugly.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:02 PM   #14
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:35 PM   #15
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When we the people start to be deprived of our daily necessities such as food and water then we will come unwound. Nothing has unleashed a population any more than tyrants starving the people.
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The people did fight back in the 2016 president election and the left is trying to make an example out of Trump to warn anyone in the future of what they will do to you if you try to change the course that they have this country on.
Trump is just the face of who they are attacking but make no mistake it is those that voted for him that they are after. There is a true crisis at our southern border and you see what the democrats are focused on and where the spend their efforts at.
I think as long as we continue to live in comfort nothing will happen BUT if the day comes where we are looking at something even remotely close to Venezuela there will be a civil war and it will be very violent and ugly.
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:33 PM   #17
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I think most people just live in denial of how large the issues really are. When they actually think about it,its usually too terrifying to sit on for long. Honestly, been having a hard time knowing our politicians are voting on something that should be black and white (heart beat abortions) and yet every other day think I've seen a story about someone killing their kid. I know in reality it is probably a small proportion of crimes committed, but I'd be interested in seeing what rate this is at compared to the past as a measure of where our society is.

Kind of off track, but point being I just don't think it will happen. Most of society holds on to what "should" be normal and ignores the rest.
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I’m ready now, where are we gonna start
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The democrats are allowed to assault people, disrupt meetings and misbehave but if you touch one of them you go to jail?! Whose agenda is that? We have lost Congress, they have their own agendas and follow the dollars that are thrown at them. The “entitlement “ attitude of the millennial generation as whole is deteriorating the fundamental principle this country was built upon. The tipping point is getting closer everyday. Facebook is pushing the wedge between us all more and more everyday. It’s notlooking good.
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When we the people start to be deprived of our daily necessities such as food and water then we will come unwound. Nothing has unleashed a population any more than tyrants starving the people.


This^^^. When folks stop chasing the ďsocialismĒ and impeachment boogeyman and realize that the country is literally bankrupt ($21 trillion in debt and almost a trillion in the red every year) then we can start electing folks that are serious about saving the country and not just riling up the base for elections. You literally hear no one talking about the obvious elephant in the room. Why... because you canít get people angry by talking about budgets and fiscal responsibility. Iím telling you guys.... donít sleep. A reckoning is coming but it ainít a ďIíve got my AR 15, and ammoĒ type of deal. Itís a financial collapse, all mortgages are due, all loans and debts are due, mega-inflation, 30% unemployment type of situation. And THATS when youíll see the millennials say ďscrew this...letís try socialismĒ. So if you want to fight...try fighting to get some folks elected that that actually want to bring the country together to fight the real threat.


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Im not sure how what fighting back looks like other than expressing an opinion and voting. Sure, I'd like to think the fight might actually be a fight but 99.99999% of people cant afford to loose their career by breaking antifa legs, or trying to remove politictions. It app res ars that the Democrats are quickly pushing the country to a point where careers be ****ed something has to be done. When Trump wins a second term the lib socialists will likely burn down some cities.


Serious question: as conservatives, we donít burn or break things when we donít get our way. Just wondering what you think the hard-right Trump supporters will do if he looses. I think itíll be a bunch of ***sing and moaning for a few days, then back to working and supporting our families and usual. Just donít see the masses being dumb enough to start fighting.


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Serious question: as conservatives, we donít burn or break things when we donít get our way. Just wondering what you think the hard-right Trump supporters will do if he looses. I think itíll be a bunch of ***sing and moaning for a few days, then back to working and supporting our families and usual. Just donít see the masses being dumb enough to start fighting.


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If he loses he loses. If he is removed from office with out a real just cause there is likely to be more than just an average response.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:29 AM   #25
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Dont fight back by uprising...turn off the media.

Shut down the platform for this idocy and maybe the potlickers will get back to the work they were voted in to do.

If we the people would stop all the social media trolling and interaction that our 24/7 news claims to give we would be a healthier country overnight.

Turn the lights out on them...with no audience it stops
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Dont fight back by uprising...turn off the media.

Shut down the platform for this idocy and maybe the potlickers will get back to the work they were voted in to do.

If we the people would stop all the social media trolling and interaction that our 24/7 news claims to give we would be a healthier country overnight.

Turn the lights out on them...with no audience it stops
Yessiree! The fake news media is truly public enemy #1
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the people did fight back in the 2016 president election and the left is trying to make an example out of trump to warn anyone in the future of what they will do to you if you try to change the course that they have this country on.
Trump is just the face of who they are attacking but make no mistake it is those that voted for him that they are after. There is a true crisis at our southern border and you see what the democrats are focused on and where the spend their efforts at.
I think as long as we continue to live in comfort nothing will happen but if the day comes where we are looking at something even remotely close to venezuela there will be a civil war and it will be very violent and ugly.
Just my opinion.

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Dont fight back by uprising...turn off the media.



Shut down the platform for this idocy and maybe the potlickers will get back to the work they were voted in to do.



If we the people would stop all the social media trolling and interaction that our 24/7 news claims to give we would be a healthier country overnight.



Turn the lights out on them...with no audience it stops


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Serious question: as conservatives, we donít burn or break things when we donít get our way. Just wondering what you think the hard-right Trump supporters will do if he looses. I think itíll be a bunch of ***sing and moaning for a few days, then back to working and supporting our families and usual. Just donít see the masses being dumb enough to start fighting.


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Yep I agree but I see it just a little differently..
If we are "dumb enough" to sit around when a socialist is elected, which I'm afraid we will be, then we will loose this country forever as we know it.. Everything Trump has done will be reversed and the Socialists will put the destruction of this country on the fast track while us civil conservatives continue working, paying taxes and funding their agenda!!! It's scary and very sad to think about honestly..
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Dont fight back by uprising...turn off the media.



Shut down the platform for this idocy and maybe the potlickers will get back to the work they were voted in to do.



If we the people would stop all the social media trolling and interaction that our 24/7 news claims to give we would be a healthier country overnight.



Turn the lights out on them...with no audience it stops
Agreed. Hit the news companies where it hurts. The hardest hit would be to boycott any company that advertises with them.
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:48 AM   #31
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I think the fight starts as soon as the Meuller deal is done and thats soon. We have a new AG now. I hope some of the corrupt folks that are already under sealed charges, get rounded up.
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Yep I agree but I see it just a little differently..
If we are "dumb enough" to sit around when a socialist is elected, which I'm afraid we will be, then we will loose this country forever as we know it.. Everything Trump has done will be reversed and the Socialists will put the destruction of this country on the fast track while us civil conservatives continue working, paying taxes and funding their agenda!!! It's scary and very sad to think about honestly..
I'm afraid we lost this country as we've known it 8 or 9 years ago.The Obama administration destroyed this country & created the mass division we see today.
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I'm afraid we lost this country as we've known it 8 or 9 years ago.The Obama administration destroyed this country & created the mass division we see today.


Without a doubt he did and he and his cronies are still feverishly working behind the scenes to make sure we stay on that path he spent 8 years blazing!!



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Without a doubt he did and he and his cronies are still feverishly working behind the scenes to make sure we stay on that path he spent 8 years blazing!!



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He was a plant. Groomed exactly for the position he held. With his main purpose being to destroy this nation from within. Iíll happily wear my tin hat. The naysayers will see soon enough.
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He was a plant. Groomed exactly for the position he held. With his main purpose being to destroy this nation from within. Iíll happily wear my tin hat. The naysayers will see soon enough.
That's a fact.. Anyone that can't see or admit that are either in denial or are just out right gullible beyond description... It all happened and IS happening right before our eyes... It beats me how anyone could not see it..
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I'm afraid we lost this country as we've known it 8 or 9 years ago.The Obama administration destroyed this country & created the mass division we see today.
correct!! the race relations in this country are just about as bad as I can ever remember. but it started about 8 years ago.

and people talk about Trump being divisive?

and all is well as long they (dems) are running s#!t., just ask them and they'll tell you.

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I have a question/scenario for y’all.

If every conservative was to walk into work and fill out a new W4, and take the max deductions so that zero taxes were taken, how long would it take to cripple the governments ability to function in its current capacity? Would that actually make our “representatives “ listen to WE THE PEOPLE?
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Looks like river rat met his goal on another hit, run and stir up thread. Lol
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I have a question/scenario for yíall.

If every conservative was to walk into work and fill out a new W4, and take the max deductions so that zero taxes were taken, how long would it take to cripple the governments ability to function in its current capacity? Would that actually make our ďrepresentatives ď listen to WE THE PEOPLE?


^^^^^^^^^^^ NO
Nothing would happen as they would not notice.
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I have a question/scenario for yíall.

If every conservative was to walk into work and fill out a new W4, and take the max deductions so that zero taxes were taken, how long would it take to cripple the governments ability to function in its current capacity? Would that actually make our ďrepresentatives ď listen to WE THE PEOPLE?


It would have to be a movement as large as the situation in Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"; where the big players took to Galt's Gulch and basically hid out of sight. An enormous undertaking at the least.
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The title of this thread should be....When Will Conservatives Fight Like Liberals.

We need to beat them at their own game.
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The title of this thread should be....When Will Conservatives Fight Like Liberals.

We need to beat them at their own game.
Itís true! But until we learn how lo unite and lockstep like they do we will keep losing. They will go down with the ship. All of them. Together. Singing the same tune
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Itís true! But until we learn how lo unite and lockstep like they do we will keep losing. They will go down with the ship. All of them. Together. Singing the same tune
Truff!
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Like they united during the last Presidential election?
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We missed our first window back when Barry Hussein was handed, yes handed, the Oval office for round 2..

Our second chance is just around the corner.. We will blow it too and our kids and grand kids will have socialism forced on them.. This country as we know it will be over.. We are a weak populous.. We are preoccupied by many things that we believe to be more important than freedom itself.... Hell not even half of registered conservatives even go vote.... Do you think they care enough to put their life on the line??? Aint gonna happen....

Sad truth...
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.... Hell not even half of registered conservatives even go vote.... Do you think they care enough to put their life on the line??? Aint gonna happen....
Lotta truth each one of those statements! Always remember, the fights always start with the disenfranchised......oddly, every faction feels disenfranchised...ÖÖ..thus zero unity! Odd times I tell ya!!!
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This^^^. When folks stop chasing the ďsocialismĒ and impeachment boogeyman and realize that the country is literally bankrupt ($21 trillion in debt and almost a trillion in the red every year) then we can start electing folks that are serious about saving the country and not just riling up the base for elections. You literally hear no one talking about the obvious elephant in the room. Why... because you canít get people angry by talking about budgets and fiscal responsibility. Iím telling you guys.... donít sleep. A reckoning is coming but it ainít a ďIíve got my AR 15, and ammoĒ type of deal. Itís a financial collapse, all mortgages are due, all loans and debts are due, mega-inflation, 30% unemployment type of situation. And THATS when youíll see the millennials say ďscrew this...letís try socialismĒ. So if you want to fight...try fighting to get some folks elected that that actually want to bring the country together to fight the real threat.


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ÖÖÖ..and that folks is a superior analysis of what is most likely to happen!!! There will always be someone breaking windows, beating up somebody, killing a few innocent folks out of pure hate but when it goes financial (which supersedes all of that other stuff based on our history) then all bets are OFF!!! Thanks for posting that analysis.
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It would have to be a movement as large as the situation in Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"; where the big players took to Galt's Gulch and basically hid out of sight. An enormous undertaking at the least.
Probably not enormous for the uber-rich as mountain hideouts are already in place. The price tag for access is excessive......but not for the .001%!
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:13 PM   #47
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Well we know where to go now! Those places will be taken over fast when the shtf

Good to see they even build underground parking for their luxury cars LOL
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:40 PM   #48
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British actor who joined anti-ISIS fight says he's having trouble gaining re-entry to England, U.S.


As the final ISIS enclave in eastern Syria shrinks almost into non-existence – a sign that the terror group's last fragment of territorial control that once spawned large swaths of Iraq and Syria is almost over – one Western fighter, Michael Enright, who left his Hollywood career to take up arms against the brutal insurgency, says he has been left languishing without a country to safely return to.

“I always felt I owed America a debt because it had always been so good to me. I love Americans and I love America. I didn’t go (to Syria) to help the Kurds, I went there to fight for America,” British-born Enright, 55, told Fox News. “I ended up falling in love with the Kurds, but I went there for America and because of what ISIS did to Americans.”









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I probably spend an inordinate amount of time trying to sift through the propaganda and false arguments made on both sides of the political aisle and their respective news organizations and my observations and conclusions differ from many here. I believe:

There are radical, potentially violent crazies on both sides and both sides are fed more info about those on the other side than their own.

False generalizations rule the day on both sides, especially with politicians and the media. Examples: Republicans are the party of white supremacy. Democratic party wants to take your guns away, are pushing for socialism. Many more on both sides.

The only thing that will lead one side to take arms against the other is a crazy reaction to a crazy on the other side. The best way to make sure that never happens to is quit ignoring the crazies on our own sides and start calling them out. But neither side does because they want every vote they can get. For example, Trump/Fox ignore the increase in racially motivated violence (white supremacy, etc). Dem leaders/MSM ignore Antifa as well as violent acts like the congressional softball team shooting, physical confrontations with Rep leaders in public, etc.
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