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Who is the guy with the giant head sitting behind Cohenís left shoulder?
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AOC is up!
I missed it! Did she sound smart?
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D-Tlaib with more racist dribble...Meadows is pizzzzzzed & calling her out....
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The racist comment by the racist mooslum woman should have got her in trouble. But, alas, it wont.

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I missed it! Did she sound smart?
her trainers did well...
she read 100%, and didn't drift from, a pre-drafted document...

media climbed all over themselves taking pics while she spoke lol...
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her trainers did well...
she read 100%, and didn't drift from, a pre-drafted document...

media climbed all over themselves taking pics while she spoke lol...
Hopefully she will do a Facebook Live tonight in the kitchen while she's dicing some russet potatoes and tell us her real thoughts on this hearing.
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Hopefully she will do a Facebook Live tonight in the kitchen while she's dicing some russet potatoes and tell us her real thoughts on this hearing.


"Like....and i'm like......Literally........like......actually..... ..like"
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Hopefully she will do a Facebook Live tonight in the kitchen while she's dicing some russet potatoes and tell us her real thoughts on this hearing.
she did stumble over several of the "big" words......not joking...
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:15 PM   #59
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D-Tlaib with more racist dribble...Meadows is pizzzzzzed & calling her out....
What did she say this time?
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"Like....and i'm like......Literally........like......actually..... ..like"
I do like, drive by trump's golf course, like every day - when I like, drive from the Bronx to Queens, like every day...
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:22 PM   #61
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What did she say this time?
https://thehill.com/policy/national-...-of-racist-act

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"And it is insensitive...the fact that someone would actually use a prop, a black woman in this chamber, in this committee, is alone racist in itself," Tlaib continued, getting emotional.
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Who was the black woman prop?
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Who was the black woman prop?
Supposedly a close friend of Trump that works for Meadows and asked to come forward to dispute that Trump was a racist.

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Who was the black woman prop?
take the article for what its worth - just looking for a name...

Lynne Patton - Trump Staffer

https://www.thedailybeast.com/to-sme...-a-silent-prop
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:28 PM   #65
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What's insensitive is the fact that they think so little of black people that in their minds there is no way she was there by her own will. Their only explanation is that the simple minded black lady was unknowingly used as a prop.
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Old 02-27-2019, 06:29 PM   #66
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All I can say about Cohen is once a liar always a liar.
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Oh, I'm sure he only lied about the stuff the Dems want to be true.......
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Cohen did testify that their was no evidence of Russian collusion which is what started this entire **** show.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:29 AM   #69
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Cohen did testify that their was no evidence of Russian collusion which is what started this entire **** show.
Exactly! No collision? Then why the **** are We here !?
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:47 AM   #70
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And People want to question why I donít vote.

Iím so glad I donít get wrapped up in this BS.



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Old 02-28-2019, 06:41 AM   #71
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And People want to question why I donít vote.

Iím so glad I donít get wrapped up in this BS.



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You donít have to get wrapped up in it.

But you should still vote.


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Old 02-28-2019, 07:01 AM   #72
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Thatís exactly what the left and media are trying to get people not to do. Soldiers died for our freedom to vote, itís the least we can do for our country.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:13 AM   #73
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Exactly! No collision? Then why the **** are We here !?
To find other ways to bash and impeach Trump..Duh!

I loved the leasing questions and how they would tell/ask Cohen if he's going to jail because he lied/inflated his net worth....and then rolled into asking does Trump inflate his net worth to banks... You have to hand it to the snakes that they are pretty slick.

They want so freaking bad to be able to dig into Trumps finances etc.. They just know if they do they can dig up something. And I couldn't imagine how many documents that would be. It would literally be impossible to NOT come up with something that looks back LOL
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Exactly! No collision? Then why the **** are We here !?
These are warning shots to anybody and everybody that ever thinks of running for President and associates that isn't part of the swamp that they will be crushed by the swamp.
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Anyone want to wager Cohen made a deal to get out of prison early? And I bet it includes if he gives them enough to impeach Trump he gets out right away.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:56 AM   #76
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Anyone want to wager Cohen made a deal to get out of prison early? And I bet it includes if he gives them enough to impeach Trump he gets out right away.
I'm going to lean more so towards he is going away for the 3 years of his sentence since he couldn't be the one to give them what they wanted, so for that he will pay the full price cause he is of no use.
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I'm going to lean more so towards he is going away for the 3 years of his sentence since he couldn't be the one to give them what they wanted, so for that he will pay the full price cause he is of no use.
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Iím so glad I donít get wrapped up in this BS.
Wow. That is all I got.
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Wow. That is all I got.


I read political forums for pure entertainment.

Iím convinced both sides are nuts.


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I suspect he will face additional charges for lying again and spend more than three years since the dems couldn't get him to lie about Russian collusion.

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Iím convinced both sides are nuts.
Fair enough sir




That mindset (which I have nothing against) always reminds me of the Neimoller passage.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outó because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew.

Then they came for meóand there was no one left to speak for me.
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That mindset (which I have nothing against) always reminds me of the Neimoller passage.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outó because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew.

Then they came for meóand there was no one left to speak for me.
He did speak out - He said both sides are nuts ...
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He did speak out - He said both sides are nuts ...
Saying both sides are nuts while refusing to be part of a solution is just a form of whining
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1) Iím betting this Mueller report is a BIG nothing burger. Thus the pivot to campaign finance violations.
2) The campaign finance stuff is waaay more serious for trump then the Russian stuff. According to Judge Napalitano, almost 100% chance the SDNY will find a felony indictment once the dig into the records. If they can start to corroborate what Cohen said with actual phone records and documents/timelines...Pence will be finishing out Trumps term.


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2) The campaign finance stuff is waaay more serious for trump then the Russian stuff. According to Judge Napalitano, almost 100% chance the SDNY will find a felony indictment once the dig into the records. If they can start to corroborate what Cohen said with actual phone records and documents/timelines...Pence will be finishing out Trumps term.
Ever considered working for the Washington Post?
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I get that Cohen is a convicted felon and proven liar. But he got a relatively light sentence. Heíll be out in a few years. Do a multimillion dollar book deal and go on rebuilding his life. He would be the biggest fool on the planet to turn right back around and lie, under oath, again. Especially when the chairman of the committee told him before the testimony that if he lies at all, he would personally ďnail him to the crossĒ. I just donít think anyone would put themselves in double jeopardy like that after being burnt once already.


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1) Iím betting this Mueller report is a BIG nothing burger. Thus the pivot to campaign finance violations.
2) The campaign finance stuff is waaay more serious for trump then the Russian stuff. According to Judge Napalitano, almost 100% chance the SDNY will find a felony indictment once the dig into the records. If they can start to corroborate what Cohen said with actual phone records and documents/timelines...Pence will be finishing out Trumps term.


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You are probably right. But I bet nothing happens bc Trumpís counter will be to investigate their campaign finance records which will yield the same results. Itís like PEDís is baseball, does it really matter if they are all cheating?
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almost 100% chance the SDNY will find a felony indictment once the dig into the records.
I dont disagree with your first point. It does seem odd that they released the checks that were supposedly used to pay off Stormy, and they arent linked to the campaign? So what crime do you think he will be indicted for?

Kind of funny that they have found exactly nothing so far, but there still some people holding out.....
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They are claiming one came from JR.
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[QUOTE=batmaninja;14021757

Kind of funny that they have found exactly nothing so far, but there still some people holding out.....[/QUOTE]


Iím no expert but my understanding is Those checks violate some CFR statute. Something about in-kind donation from a Corp. Itís illegal. Trump team says the payments are for Cohenís retainer but no one can produce a retainer contract. Because there isnít one. The Russia stuff is garbage, but these US attorneys could be a major issue if momentum keeps building. And thatís all we are seeing with this Cohen testimony... a way to keep building momentum for prosecution and open further avenues of investigation. They arenít going to stop til this prez is out or so damaged that he canít possibly win in 2020.



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But Hillary gets off, this is rich. I predict nothing will happen to the prez, he will win in 2020 walking away, get the wall, and de nuke North Korea!!!
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He’s the Democrats last bit of hope.
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That mindset (which I have nothing against) always reminds me of the Neimoller passage.



First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist.



Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outó because I was not a trade unionist.



Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew.



Then they came for meóand there was no one left to speak for me.
I quoted that quote just the other day and when I did this also came to mind.
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Iím no expert but my understanding is Those checks violate some CFR statute. Something about in-kind donation from a Corp. Itís illegal. Trump team says the payments are for Cohenís retainer but no one can produce a retainer contract. Because there isnít one. The Russia stuff is garbage, but these US attorneys could be a major issue if momentum keeps building. And thatís all we are seeing with this Cohen testimony... a way to keep building momentum for prosecution and open further avenues of investigation. They arenít going to stop til this prez is out or so damaged that he canít possibly win in 2020.



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Bottom line. Anyone who's ever owned even a small business knows there's zero odds of there being something illegal within Trumps multiple businesses.

About the same odds he didn't use tax loopholes to pay less in taxes.

Dems simply want to fish and keep fishing until they find something. It's completely absurd at this point.
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Comparing small business ownership to Trumps endeavors is as asinine as it gets. You have read about all the shady stuff he has done with said businesses right? Im not saying I can prove that he has broken any laws, but when you have that kind of money and power things get taken care of. Whether through payments, settlements or a simple dissolution of the company, Trump has proven that he can "take care" of things before much legalities. My feeling is that there will be more investigations into some of his business dealings and taxes which will bring charges, but as I said before, he can probably pawn off responsibility to others or pay his way out.
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Iím no expert but my understanding is Those checks violate some CFR statute. Something about in-kind donation from a Corp. Itís illegal. Trump team says the payments are for Cohenís retainer but no one can produce a retainer contract. Because there isnít one. The Russia stuff is garbage, but these US attorneys could be a major issue if momentum keeps building. And thatís all we are seeing with this Cohen testimony... a way to keep building momentum for prosecution and open further avenues of investigation. They arenít going to stop til this prez is out or so damaged that he canít possibly win in 2020.
Well at least you can admit that Russia was a nothing muffin from the beginning. And I want to say that is what got the momentum rolling in the beginning.

I cant speak to the CFR statute but I would guess that Trump isnt the first politician, much less President to pay some one off. Upon further review Slick actually got Hillary to pay off Paula

Your last line is a double edged sword. The Dems are just riling up Trumps base with this nonsense. I am pretty positive that Cohens testimony didnt push any one to the Dems side, if anything it is pushing people over to Trumps side.

Clinton Administration officials said a check for $850,000, the amount agreed to in November to settle the case, was being sent by overnight mail to Ms. Jones and her lawyers. The officials, who asked that their names not be used, said that a little more than half of the money, $475,000, came from an insurance policy against civil liability the President held with Chubb Group Insurance. Most, if not all, of the remainder was withdrawn from a blind trust in the name of Mrs. Clinton, which officials said last year had assets of slightly more than $1 million.
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Bottom line. Anyone who's ever owned even a small business knows there's zero odds of there being something illegal within Trumps multiple businesses.

About the same odds he didn't use tax loopholes to pay less in taxes.

Dems simply want to fish and keep fishing until they find something. It's completely absurd at this point.
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Comparing small business ownership to Trumps endeavors is as asinine as it gets. You have read about all the shady stuff he has done with said businesses right? Im not saying I can prove that he has broken any laws, but when you have that kind of money and power things get taken care of. Whether through payments, settlements or a simple dissolution of the company, Trump has proven that he can "take care" of things before much legalities. My feeling is that there will be more investigations into some of his business dealings and taxes which will bring charges, but as I said before, he can probably pawn off responsibility to others or pay his way out.
First you should learn to read.

The point is EVERY single business breaks laws. Yes, all of them. It's near impossible to follow all laws. If you ever owned even a simple business you would understand. So there's no way in hell a guy running an empire doesn't break laws. 100% of all business people do. It's called risk/reward. Companies actually hire highly paid people just to run risk/reward scenarios.

One would have to be a complete moron to think between his thousands of employees and people running his business all over the world that mistakes are not made daily..and not even on purpose.

This is the only reason Dems want access to his financials. Heck I'd wager you break laws every single day. Look how iffy TPWD laws can be. And that's super simple compared to tax codes for corporations and business laws between states.

But I'm sure you'll say I'm wrong. You hate Trump and nothing will change that.
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"zero odds of there being something illegal", should I read it backwards and get the opposite meaning?

I own three businesses currently so I do understand completely. Your reply makes so much more sense and I agree. You are right I do break laws every day, but I have never met someone who doesn't. Speeding, failure to signal turn or lane change, etc.
I do NOT hate Trump, I just do not think he is a great leader for our country. More of a charlatan, like many of our politicians, democrats included.
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I don’t know if it’s true but if it is... the star witness testimony is even more lies than what was already known
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