Alexandrai Ocasio-Cortez new Green deal

[flywise]

[QUOTE=MadHatter;14011416]Right there in the last picture, they admit things are warming up. That's global warming. The term GW doesn't mean man made or anything of the sort, simply that the atmosphere is steadily getting warmer. Lots on here don't believe even that is real.
The earth's cycles weve known about for some time, that's rudimentary knowledge from 8th grade, and dinosaurs.
Are we the problem for the current state of things though?
How did scientists from virtually every country on earth start agreeing on this? The most plausible reason vs your argument, is, it had to be to help the Democratic party.
It makes no sense. This worldwide thing, backed by almost every country on earth, is hoax. Wow. We can't get 2 countries to agree on anything, but somehow, someone convinced almost every country on this. Talk about conspiracy theory.
Fly wise you say I make a good point toward pollution.
What is our contribution to GW if it's not pollution.
Were are destroying nature faster than it can fix itself, and even in today's age of instant information some refuse to see this.
We once had a great Republican, with immenseforesight, thought and vision. His name was Teddy Roosevelt.
Think about what if. What if he hadn't done what he did, and today's thought had of pervaded unchecked.
No Yellowstone, no Yosemite, on and on and on. None of that existed today, because drill baby drill was the mindset.
It could have happened, I'm glad it didn't.
Nature is something special, but it's true beauty is being lost by a new mindset, as we pull ever further away from it.
Then you look at how we already have a man made chemical in every human on earth, look at the MTS weve torn down, the things we dump in the water, etc. Multiplied by the billions worldwide, yet people believe weve have no impact.
It plain and simple, the wrong mindset, when looking into the


I could not stand to read.most of your point but yes, most of the world is socialist, most of the world want to bring America down a few notches....at least enough that we agree to send them our money ( my money and yours ). Climate date ( futures) are based on models and humans with an agenda provide the data. Climate change ABSOLUTELY CANNOT be manipulated by humans. It has been changing for a few billion years.

[flywise]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

I just farted am I going to be exterminated with the cows

Depends, is it windy where you are? I farted a few times today but winds are about 40 from the west. So I'm good.

[GarGuy]

Well Im like Ron White... Ill do my part by eating those farting cows.

[Pedernal]

Originally Posted by flywise

Depends, is it windy where you are? I farted a few times today but winds are about 40 from the west. So I'm good.

Well it was really windy here too but I was inside but not under blankets thankfully

[RiverRat1]

Originally Posted by Playa

The point isn’t whether this is some Dem conspiracy. The point is historical science data proves man isn’t the cause. Spending billions of dollars to slow a natural process is just stupid, unless you are the one receiving the funds... ie the climate scientists who are pushing the agenda

If one watches pretty much any show on science and you can't see they are trying to prove a certain point then you're blind. It's been a long long time since I've seen one that is just studying versus straight up admitting they are looking at "X" to prove "Y" which in my mind is not science.

[quote=flywise;14011681]

Originally Posted by MadHatter

I could not stand to read.most of your point but yes, most of the world is socialist, most of the world want to bring America down a few notches....at least enough that we agree to send them our money ( my money and yours ). Climate date ( futures) are based on models and humans with an agenda provide the data. Climate change ABSOLUTELY CANNOT be manipulated by humans. It has been changing for a few billion years.

The world follows whatever is PC. And yes most times to get money in one way or another. They dare not say women are different than men, it's wrong to be gay, certain races are better/worse than others, or Trump is doing anything good.

So just because a bunch of idiots in power want more money doesn't prove anything.

[BrandonA]

Originally Posted by MadHatter

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world's volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.

This came from our own team, some of the most brilliant people in the world, not slanted stories like you drug up out of the guardian
I can give you more references if needed.



You sir totally missed the point and flew off into left field, just like a liberal. You also have very little understanding or knowledge of our current state. The food industry is running you straight down the socialist pipe so fast it's unbelievable and you and millions of others are totally missing it.
I don't give 2 sh$ts about a party, when it should be common sense. We have multitude of people trying to start a revolution in the food movement. From the way its grown, to the way its sourced, to the way its sold. Healthy ya know, as the rates of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and OBESITY go up. Vegan people, people who only eat whole food, people who tout organic etc.. What do you and your ilk do, make fun of em, and they most assuredly must be a liberal. Meanwhile, all you eat is processed foods, made by the man, put in a store for you to buy, at there price, when its available. You support this 100%. Its my right to drink a 1000oz coke if I want, meanwhile your fatazz is breaking the healthcare industry, supporting big pharma, and your standing over here preaching against it. Unbelievable. Today's food is much like doing meth, but because it's food, everyone draws this bold line and refuses to see the similarities and what's going on.
If I gave your kid a cigarette you would lose your mind, hand your kid a hot dog and no big deal, yet there they both are almost side by side in the FDAs list of known human carcinogens.
So in the end, your way is going to put you in a line waiting for food, or drugs because you and society as a whole have no way to get it without the man.

As far as electric cars etc.., do we just rape nature until it's gone and then say good luck kids? Or do you believe we'll magically never run out of fossil fuels? Tell me which way we should look? Or should we, for the first time in history, just quit? This is it folks, we've found it, no need to ever go anyfurther

Just so were clear, Global Warming is real 100%, the only debatable question is, is man causing it.
Your theory statement means nothing in scientific terms.
Gravity is a theory.
Just a tiny bit of reading from some uneducated liberals for you https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Y'all need to give up on this country though, and the whole being on the good side thing.
Republicans are every bit as ridiculous as the liberals, just a different side of the coin. Every argument that could be made for them can be made for y'all good or bad.
The 2 parties have grown so far apart, you've past the point of turning back. All common sense has been lost on both sides, to the point of simply fulfilling MY agenda. No one looks or reasons objectively anymore, simply subjectively.
One of the most profound statements I've ever heard came from Ben Carson in a speech he gave for something..
He was talking about the US as if it were a eagle. It has a right wing, and a left wing, and enable for the Eagle to soar, both wings must work together in unison.
Lemme know the next time working in unison with a liberal crosses your mind.
But like I said, could care less about party affiliation, these things should be common sense, something all men work towards as a whole, it shouldn't even be a political thing, but it is, and that's what is killing us.

Was this the same scientists that had us going extinct by now due to another ice age? This whole global warming / climate change is BS. The United States leads the world in being environmentally friendly and it's a hell of a lot better today than 30, 40, 50, 100 yrs ago. Quit bitching about a non deal

[stickerpatch59]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

I just farted am I going to be exterminated with the cows

no, not yet... just outlaw BEANS!!

[flywise]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

Well it was really windy here too but I was inside but not under blankets thankfully

[Man]

Now she threatening to kick *** and take names within her own party.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...elves-on-a-list

[flywise]

Originally Posted by Man

Now she threatening to kick *** and take names within her own party.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...elves-on-a-list

These young socialists just dont know their place.

[muzzlebrake]

I'm going to start selling carbon credits. I'll have the forms printed up here on my home PC. Thinking maybe about asking 5 cents apiece. Once these credits start splitting you will get rich. Will be better than Walmart stock. How many ya'll want?

Disclaimer: these credits will be worthless just like the climate change hoax but there's a sucker born every second. Now's the time to get in on the ground floor of a sure fire money making scheme.

Oh crap! I just read where Al Gore has already beat me to it.
NEVER MIND!

[diamond10x]

Originally Posted by flywise

These young socialists just dont know their place.

Her and her 2 other Bff’s (Omar & Tlaib) will push themselves out of office and own party by burning so hot with all their shenanigans. I hope so at least!

[GarGuy]

What a gift to conservatives. Keep rolling AOC. Pelosi is crying in her beer.

[Leemo]

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[flywise]

Originally Posted by muzzlebrake

I'm going to start selling carbon credits. I'll have the forms printed up here on my home PC. Thinking maybe about asking 5 cents apiece. Once these credits start splitting you will get rich. Will be better than Walmart stock. How many ya'll want?

Disclaimer: these credits will be worthless just like the climate change hoax but there's a sucker born every second. Now's the time to get in on the ground floor of a sure fire money making scheme.

Oh crap! I just read where Al Gore has already beat me to it.
NEVER MIND!

He has gotten rich

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by RiverRat1

......The world follows whatever is PC. And yes most times to get money in one way or another. They dare not say women are different than men, it's wrong to be gay, certain races are better/worse than others, or Trump is doing anything good.

So just because a bunch of idiots in power want more money doesn't prove anything.

It was pointed out to AOC that she uses air travel, heat and air conditioning. She said "that's not the issue".....SMH.........

[double bogey]

Here you go, if you have any doubts about global warming. /read all the way to the last line.

The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.

I must apologize I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 96 years ago. This must have been caused by the Model T Ford's emissions or possibly from horse and cattle farts.

[flywise]

Originally Posted by double bogey

Here you go, if you have any doubts about global warming. /read all the way to the last line.

The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.

I must apologize I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 96 years ago. This must have been caused by the Model T Ford's emissions or possibly from horse and cattle farts.

Yes sir that dang climate has been changing for several billion years. If not auto's.and cow farts it dinosaur farts and uninhibited forest fires and comet strikes.
In 1972 an article was written by scientists about the coming mini ice age lasting 200 years if I remember correctly. Ya just never know what's going to pizz off this old earth and how she is going to react.

[muzzlebrake]

Originally Posted by flywise

Yes sir that dang climate has been changing for several billion years. If not auto's.and cow farts it dinosaur farts and uninhibited forest fires and comet strikes.
In 1972 an article was written by scientists about the coming mini ice age lasting 200 years if I remember correctly. Ya just never know what's going to pizz off this old earth and how she is going to react.

Well, I for one am glad the dinosaurs are gone. Can you imagine having one fart on you? What would a 200,000 lb 150 ft long dinosaur do? My dog is capable of almost killing me and she is only 35lbs.

[flywise]

Originally Posted by muzzlebrake

Well, I for one am glad the dinosaurs are gone. Can you imagine having one fart on you? What would a 200,000 lb 150 ft long dinosaur do? My dog is capable of almost killing me and she is only 35lbs.

Definitely glad I dont have to put up with dino farts.

[overcomer401965]

Im actually in the Antarctic right now. 2nd year ice is here and 3rd is forming off the shelf. Some ice has been measured to be thicker than previous years. As a matter of fact our primary sites are unreachable because of the ice coverage.

[DaveC]

Here is a pretty good podcast I listened too a while back explaining how some of the flawed left leaning data to support global warming is compiled. Explained and exposed by democratic leaning scientist who uncovered the Cherry Picking going on to sell the world on Global Warming .


https://www.iheart.com/podcast/51-re...king-30582254/


If you like that podcast, "Booty Call" by the same Red Pilled America is also worth a listen IMO.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/51-re...call-30530425/

[brokeno]

It's basicly a weather cycle that has been going on since the beginning of time.

A o c was a bartender 6 months ago and couldn't pay rent. I think she needs to produce her income tax return I want to see how much of her tips she claimed on her taxes. Throw her in jail for not reporting income on mixing Russian vodka and she has to be a racist since she mixed a Black Russian and a White Russian and an Irish cream.

[muzzlebrake]

Originally Posted by overcomer401965

Im actually in the Antarctic right now. 2nd year ice is here and 3rd is forming off the shelf. Some ice has been measured to be thicker than previous years. As a matter of fact our primary sites are unreachable because of the ice coverage.

Shame on you for letting this get out. Somebody will cry for weeks or this unbearable news.

[muzzlebrake]

Originally Posted by brokeno

It's basicly a weather cycle that has been going on since the beginning of time.

A o c was a bartender 6 months ago and couldn't pay rent. I think she needs to produce her income tax return I want to see how much of her tips she claimed on her taxes. Throw her in jail for not reporting income on mixing Russian vodka and she has to be a racist since she mixed a Black Russian and a White Russian and an Irish cream.

You owe me a new keyboard and monitor.

[Playa]

Geez even GreenPeace is sniping AOC on social media. Hitting the bullseye both in the absurdity of the policy AND the arrogance in which she possesses to deliver it.

[txhunt7]

amazing how many of the other democrats will get in the same crazy boat with her. Consider this about global warming - it's totally against Bible prophecy of what the Lord says will occur. So I guess none of the dems believe the Bible prophecy is true? not surprising though ......

[Artos]

Playa...that is spectacular!!

[ttaxidermy]

She was hired by the Russians... She is secretly working for the Trump campaign..
2020 will be a cake walk for BIG DON... Thank you AOC for your sacrifice!!!!!

[Mudslinger]

Yep and LA did not reach 70 degrees for the first time in the past month in over 130+ years I believe. Maybe we all need to invest in some heavy duty polar jackets!

[txhunt7]

AOC - AetheistObnoxiousCommunist

[MBV77]

Still amazed that this woman was elected....even in New York.


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[Playa]

Originally Posted by Artos

Playa...that is spectacular!!

I thought so too. When the co-founder of Green Peace bluntly calls you out like that it truly puts in perspective how ludicrous it is. I mean this is his life’s work and goal, and yet he can’t even muster a modicum of support like “hey good job on the concept, but we might need to modify the approach/timeline.

It made me think, why are all of these Dem Prez candidates jumping on board. It is nothing more than sucking up to a press darling whose followers are literally mindless followers. As election nears they will distance themselves for this craziness, but for now they are all jockeying to see who can sniff AOC’s farts

[Artos]

Exactly...watching levin with the guy that started the #walkaway movement which I never heard of till just now. Man it Gives me some hope.

Brother, when Biden has to apologize to the base for calling our vp a decent dude & every current dem candidate is endorsing this green deal?? If there is any amount of patriotism left in a soul that has some common sense, then 2020 is in the bag.

Basically, to date...it is Trump vs all those that just hate him with no real reason & the rest of the nation that feels the world is doomed in a dozen years. Sadly, we have a media supporting the madness??

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by MBV77

Still amazed that this woman was elected....even in New York.


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I heard somewhere that only 4% if her precinct voted which resulted in her getting elected.


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[flywise]

Originally Posted by DaveC

I heard somewhere that only 4% if her precinct voted which resulted in her getting elected.


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A total of 16k votes and now we have a life time of memes

[muzzlebrake]

I'm pretty sure her precinct won't be so complacent next election. Surely enough of them are embarrassed enough by this bug eyed nitwit to get out and vote next go round.

[Crazy Horse]

Pompous little twit....yep...

[JFISHER]

nm

[Man]

"Until then, we're in charge and you're just shouting from the cheap seats".

What a cocky little millennial. Sometimes I think I actually want her to win re-election..she doing a good job at dividing and destroying the party. I would fear her more if she actually stuck to a premade script, but so far it doesn't seem like thats going to be here MO.

[wlee15]

https://youtu.be/ilD6aYvMPZw

Pretty Funny

[Clay C]

Originally Posted by Man

"Until then, we're in charge and you're just shouting from the cheap seats".

What a cocky little millennial. Sometimes I think I actually want her to win re-election..she doing a good job at dividing and destroying the party. I would fear her more if she actually stuck to a premade script, but so far it doesn't seem like thats going to be here MO.

That is exactly the way people in Washington think. They are all wanna be dictators and would be in a second if given the chance. They believe they are there because they know better and therefore are superior to us. The sacrifice of public service and representation is all but dead.

[CEO]

Originally Posted by DaveC

Here is a pretty good podcast I listened too a while back explaining how some of the flawed left leaning data to support global warming is compiled. Explained and exposed by democratic leaning scientist who uncovered the Cherry Picking going on to sell the world on Global Warming .


https://www.iheart.com/podcast/51-re...king-30582254/


If you like that podcast, "Booty Call" by the same Red Pilled America is also worth a listen IMO.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/51-re...call-30530425/

That was a good listen. Thanks for the link.

[Lynn21]

Truly certifiable, dumber than a box of rocks....

[Playa]

Originally Posted by Man

"Until then, we're in charge and you're just shouting from the cheap seats".

What a cocky little millennial. Sometimes I think I actually want her to win re-election..she doing a good job at dividing and destroying the party. I would fear her more if she actually stuck to a premade script, but so far it doesn't seem like thats going to be here MO.

That was the AOC quote that stood out to me. She is pompous and arrogant and has nothing to substantiate either. And yet history tells us de-throning an incumbent is very difficult, we may be stuck with her for decades.

[Artos]

Honestly,

What sort of crap storm would the house be stirring up if the Trump campaign did the equal??

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...plaint-alleges


"These are not minor or technical violations," Tom Anderson, director of NLPC’s Government Integrity Project, said in a statement. "We are talking about real money here. In all my years of studying FEC reports, I’ve never seen a more ambitious operation to circumvent reporting requirements. Representative Ocasio-Cortez has been quite vocal in condemning so-called dark money, but her own campaign went to great lengths to avoid the sunlight of disclosure.”

Added Anderson: “They believe their cause is so great that they don’t have to play by the rules. They believe that they are above campaign finance law." He charged that Ocasio-Cortez “has been quite vocal in condemning so-called dark money, but her own campaign went to great lengths to avoid the sunlight of disclosure."

[BrandonA]

Originally Posted by Artos

AOC will not be on the 2020 ticket...you have to be 35yrs old to qualify for potus which takes her out of the picture for even VP & speaker as she is only 29. Hard to believe this idiot was born a year after I graduated from HS!! MSM is giving her way too much credibility & airtime. Im hoping she continues to trip over her tongue and fall on her face to knock out the horse teeth. This chick is really spooky& doesn't need a cult like following the MSM is helping with.

We are so so screwed...our founding fathers were brilliant but they messed up in two areas.

~ALL elected public servants need term limits regardless of municipal, county, state or national.

~you are not eligible to vote unless you own property and/or pay taxes. Those on any public assistance / dependents via the help from the working American taxpayer should not be able to vote into power the very people who make laws that encourage them to stay in the dependent condition!! If you are living in govt housing & eating with food stamps paid for by those of us that work to do the same, should not have a privilege to vote in a politician so willing to pass laws to take even more $$$$ out of my check to give you more free crap!!

I agree on all counts except I exempt Vetrans and those truly disabled

[WamBow]

Originally Posted by MBV77

Still amazed that this woman was elected....even in New York.


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That's what concerns me. How'd she get in there? Uneducated voters just wanting to "mix it up" a little so they elect a bartender? She's an embarrassment to our system. I read stats that her district had a poor turn out. Has anyone gone back to her district and asked how they feel about their representation from this impetuous nit wit? Enough of this rally to destruction!!

[BrandonA]

Originally Posted by WamBow

That's what concerns me. How'd she get in there? Uneducated voters just wanting to "mix it up" a little so they elect a bartender? She's an embarrassment to our system. I read stats that her district had a poor turn out. Has anyone gone back to her district and asked how they feel about their representation from this impetuous nit wit? Enough of this rally to destruction!!

16,000 voted for her

[Man]

Originally Posted by BrandonA

16,000 voted for her

Straight ticket win?