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Old 01-21-2019, 12:38 PM   #1
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Does anyone have the cliff notes on some teen with MAGA hat taunting an Indian guy?
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:41 PM   #2
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here it is: Indian activist (paid actor who has a habit of doing things like this) walked up the street and into the middle of a bunch of Catholic high school kids who were there for a pro-life demo and started banging a drum in the face of one kid. Kid held his ground and the media framed it as a bunch of white kids mocking a Native American.

Pretty much it.
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^^^pretty much sums it up for me too.

The leftist liberal media painted a far different picture of course
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Yep. What they said. A twisted story to fit an agenda.
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here it is: Indian activist (paid actor who has a habit of doing things like this) walked up the street and into the middle of a bunch of Catholic high school kids who were there for a pro-life demo and started banging a drum in the face of one kid. Kid held his ground and the media framed it as a bunch of white kids mocking a Native American.

Pretty much it.
Yup. Watch the whole video and not the media version and you see the kid was minding his own business and the Indian walked right up to him and started banging the drum in his face. Kid had amazing self control. More than I would have had.
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Both were wrong - could have done better.
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Pretty disgusting that pathetic adults were screaming at kids because they dared to wear a certain red hat. The rest of the story is made up. The kids were harassed and not the other way around.
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Both were wrong - could have done better.
What did the kiddo's do wrong?
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What did the kiddo's do wrong?
Well for starters if they're white they should scream for mercy for all the wrong their past families have done. If they repent and give their lives up as a sacrifice maybe they can be forgiven...
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^^^pretty much sums it up for me too.

The leftist liberal media painted a far different picture of course
Guilty of only listening to one side of the story, total amateur hour. They're backtracking this morning, at least on cnn. They posted the statement from the kid, and a video showing the whole situation.

The kids handled it well enough for a bunch of teenagers, I personally would've shown my @ss; anybody getting in someone's face like that beating a drum is asking to be punched.

The Native American protestors mis-characterized what happened (aka lied).

The real @ssholes were the 4 hebrew israelites protesters yelling slurs at everyone (other African Americans, the school kids, and the Native Americans).

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Old 01-21-2019, 04:18 PM   #12
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I came into the story late after all the videos were out. Really don't see what the kid could've done differently. If he walked away or made an angry face instead of smile the narrative would've been the same.

Why are teenagers held to a higher standard of behavior than two groups of protesting adults?
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:24 PM   #13
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Wrong was not the correct word - handled better should have been my entire statement.

I think all parties could have handled themselves better.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:48 PM   #14
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Wrong was not the correct word - handled better should have been my entire statement.

I think all parties could have handled themselves better.
Got caught up on the entire situation and I am confused. Even though you re-worded it ...how exactly could the kiddo have handled himself better in that situation??
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Got caught up on the entire situation and I am confused. Even though you re-worded it ...how exactly could the kiddo have handled himself better in that situation??
Seems to me like there was some heckling / taunting going on in all directions.

I do believe that not enough attention has been put on the initiators of this entire scene.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:29 PM   #16
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The ADULTS should have handled it better, sure seems like alot of so called adults aren’t handing themselves very well lately. The guy who knocked off the kids hat at whataburger is a great example, I bet he wouldn’t have done that to a grown man...
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Both were wrong - could have done better.
Only one side was wrong and as usual it’s the left.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:14 AM   #18
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Only one side was wrong and as usual it’s the left.
Your exactly right.
James sure loves spreading blame when the reality of most situations the blame is strongly one sided
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:07 AM   #19
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The problem today is people know they can get away with terrible behavior without getting decked in the nose. If they do get decked in the nose they know they gain instant fame and sympathy.

We should have never gone away from decking crappy people in the nose.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:34 AM   #20
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Media gets away with manufacturing terrible things these days!
Amazing how this was reported but not surprising.
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The problem today is people know they can get away with terrible behavior without getting decked in the nose. If they do get decked in the nose they know they gain instant fame and sympathy.

We should have never gone away from decking crappy people in the nose.
This is the absolute truth - litigation and sue/law happy pansies have ruined good ol fashioned accountability.

If you knew the person in front of you could reach back and throw a straight right, you may pay attention to the words / actions you are portraying.
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The Native American drum beater, Nathan Phillips, claims to have served as a Marine in Vietnam. He's a poser, left wing liberal activist who is known for confrontations.

He was born in 1955 and was 18 years old in 1973 when the Marines were almost all withdrawn from Vietnam. Stolen Valor.
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The Native American drum beater, Nathan Phillips, claims to have served as a Marine in Vietnam. He's a poser, left wing liberal activist who is known for confrontations.

He was born in 1955 and was 18 years old in 1973 when the Marines were almost all withdrawn from Vietnam. Stolen Valor.
I wondered about that myself. But, I had a friend in college that served on Embassy duty post 1973 in Saigon.
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I came into the story late after all the videos were out. Really don't see what the kid could've done differently. If he walked away or made an angry face instead of smile the narrative would've been the same.

Why are teenagers held to a higher standard of behavior than two groups of protesting adults?
They are not if they are protesting a high school shooting....enter what's-his-name-Hog
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Seems to me like there was some heckling / taunting going on in all directions.

I do believe that not enough attention has been put on the initiators of this entire scene.
Agree to disagree on this one. Think you are grasping for straws to be completely honest.
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What the media did to these kids is disgusting. They continue to prove the Fake News narrative and that they are, in fact, the enemy of the people.
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What the media did to these kids is disgusting. They continue to prove the Fake News narrative and that they are, in fact, the enemy of the people.
One the positive side..there are several organizations who are helping this kiddo out. They cataloged ALL tweets, articles, publications before they were able to be deleted and plan to hold those who threatened and caused defamation with legal action. Maybe a step in the right direction?
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Media gets away with manufacturing terrible things these days!
Amazing how this was reported but not surprising.
And still none of the media outlets that demonized the kids are aeven talking about the real POSs at that scene. Which is a bunch of black people being actual racists..... I wonder why no one wants to talk about that?
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What the media did to these kids is disgusting.
They stopped being media some time ago.

They are a propaganda machine for socialist that want to ruin the country.

Just look at the (second) Buzzfeed article on Trump.
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One the positive side..there are several organizations who are helping this kiddo out. They cataloged ALL tweets, articles, publications before they were able to be deleted and plan to hold those who threatened and caused defamation with legal action. Maybe a step in the right direction?
It's certainly a good thing in a crappy situation. The problem is a large portion of the country will not know or will not care that it was all a lie. They saw a video that confirms White people in middle America are racist dogs. They will simply follow the marching orders that were initially sent out.
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Agree to disagree on this one. Think you are grasping for straws to be completely honest.
If I saw my Son in a group of young Men acting and behaving in that manner towards anyone for that matter - I would have removed him from the situation immediately.

I'm not grasping for anything.

We agree to disagree - that's it.
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And still none of the media outlets that demonized the kids are aeven talking about the real POSs at that scene. Which is a bunch of black people being actual racists..... I wonder why no one wants to talk about that?
This is what is baffling to me - the focus of the story has been completely changed. We have some defending the kids, and we have some digging up trash trying to persecute the innocent kids even more to validate their initial wrong thoughts.

Still nothing on what was the actual beginning of what has become an unfortunate incident.
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This is what is baffling to me - the focus of the story has been completely changed. We have some defending the kids, and we have some digging up trash trying to persecute the innocent kids even more to validate their initial wrong thoughts.

Still nothing on what was the actual beginning of what has become an unfortunate incident.
The beginning was the nation of islam guys yelling racial slurs at the kids. Thats when the indian went over and got "between the two, to diffuse the situation" (the indians response). I will try to find the video, I actually saw it on the local news yesterday.. But they didn't really talk about the slurs being thrown at the kids, just the kids doing the tomahawk which is a "derogatory gesture"
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There needs to be some serious laws passed and some harsh penalties for media outlets that cut and edit to make situations such as these seem so different than what they actually were... The media turned this into a huge lie and then televised it to stir up a race war and now the death threats are flying..
It's unbelievable that this crap is not against the law.. It has to stop..
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the beginning was the nation of islam guys black hebrew israelites yelling racial slurs at the kids. Thats when the indian went over and got "between the two, to diffuse the situation" (the indians response). I will try to find the video, i actually saw it on the local news yesterday.. But they didn't really talk about the slurs being thrown at the kids, just the kids doing the tomahawk which is a "derogatory gesture"
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Thats when the indian went over and got "between the two, to diffuse the situation" (the indians response).
From the full length video I've seen, it seemed like that until the drummer got right up in that kid's face. Methinks he wanted to provoke a reaction, and given his statements (lies) afterwards, I don't think his intentions were that good.
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I just watched the video.
I thought the kid did a great job of controlling his self.

I think back to when I was 16 and there is no way I would of had the self control that he showed
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There needs to be some serious laws passed and some harsh penalties for media outlets that cut and edit to make situations such as these seem so different than what they actually were... The media turned this into a huge lie and then televised it to stir up a race war and now the death threats are flying..
It's unbelievable that this crap is not against the law.. It has to stop..
This wouldn't be fair. TF has to get his facts somewhere.
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That kid had every right to feed tanto his drumstick, and fit that drum over his head like a necklace.

There is such a thing as personal space in this world…

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There needs to be some serious laws passed and some harsh penalties for media outlets that cut and edit to make situations such as these seem so different than what they actually were... The media turned this into a huge lie and then televised it to stir up a race war and now the death threats are flying..
It's unbelievable that this crap is not against the law.. It has to stop..
I agree - they need to be held accountable for the headlines they produce.
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Who can spot the trans-republican Obama supporter on this thread?
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There needs to be some serious laws passed and some harsh penalties for media outlets that cut and edit to make situations such as these seem so different than what they actually were... The media turned this into a huge lie and then televised it to stir up a race war and now the death threats are flying..
It's unbelievable that this crap is not against the law.. It has to stop..
Should be a hate crime.
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Should be a hate crime.
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And now it comes that Chief Stolen Valor was actually an electrician, not a ranger.

He recites Phillips’ comments in the article, “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role.”
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And now it comes that Chief Stolen Valor was actually an electrician, not a ranger.

He recites Phillips’ comments in the article, “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role.”
Yeppers!

He fought in Vietnam alongside Elizabeth Warren (stolen from a comments section....funny as hail thought!)

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His record also consist of barging in and interrupting a church service to protest. Stand up guy.
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Even after all the facts are out...yesterday Rep. Illan Omar D-Minn tweets this.

"The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled 'it's not rape if you enjoy it' ... They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants ... Sandmann's family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology."
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Recon Ranger??? more like a Remington (typewriter) Raider.
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The problem today is people know they can get away with terrible behavior without getting decked in the nose. If they do get decked in the nose they know they gain instant fame and sympathy.

We should have never gone away from decking crappy people in the nose.
This all goes back to the 90's when Zero Tolerance got put into schools. Now kids grow up without the ability to defend themselves or fight back without fear of being charged with a crime. The fear of a bloody nose would have changed this situation I believe.
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