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Old 02-19-2019, 04:42 PM   #151
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I did end up voting for him because he was the lesser of 2 evils.

I would say I am somewhat impressed.
I still believe Cruz was the better candidate, but I will vote for Trump again come 2020.
That's awesome
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:55 PM   #152
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Since you asked.... I still don't like the guy. We still don't have affordable healthcare, we still don't have a wall (I do not like the emergency declaration plan), we have more restrictions on guns with more to come likely before 2020, who knows where he will end up on the DACA situation. I would love to see someone primary him out, but know that will never happen.

My prediction is that his childish behavior and ego have put us in a position to lose 2020, just look at his approval rating, most people don't like him. Other repubs could have done a similar or better job, accomplished similar things, and won 2020 easily. He has the dems so fired up that we will see record dem turnout in 2020 if they put up any kind of decent candidate.


Flame away. Hope I'm here in 2020 eating crow.
Hs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Hs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Hs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:39 PM   #155
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That's definitely part of the reason why - there are many more personal issues such as cheating and lying, and treating people with respect.

He would never be my friend. I dont associate with those type of people. And I'm proud of that.
IMO we as Americans should not look to our president to be our moral gold standard. Therefore I couldn’t care less if he is friend worthy. Talk to me about policy, not the person. That’s what gets my vote.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:40 PM   #156
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You missed getting to vote for Reagan. He was the best president we've had in at least 100 years, if not all time. He was a champion for constitutional conservatism, which (to my surprise and unexpected pleasure) Trump has been so far as well. But Reagan did it with SO much more class and grace. He was great at being unifying. He definitely had his haters in the media and on the left, just like Trump and Cruz and every other conservative always has. But Reagan won the hearts of the folks in the middle who aren't hopelessly committed to the left. He did it by getting things done in a classy and respectful way. We could sure benefit from someone like that at the helm today. The tribal conflict and outright hatred that our society is consumed by today is not good. Not good at all. Trump thrives on it and feeds into it. I wish that were different about him. He's done some really good things that I am really happy about. If the election were today and he was the nominee again (which I expect he'll be), I'd definitely vote for him this time. But I'd still have to hold my nose in doing so. He's clearly the lesser of the two evils between him and whoever the Democrats end up nominating. But he still leaves a lot to be desired when we need to unite the country again after all the extreme and increasingly hateful and dangerous division. I don't know what the fix is for that, other than Jesus. I don't believe any politician can fix what is so broken in our society now. I'd sure like to see a president and a BIG part of Congress trying though. We don't have that now, and we haven't had it for a long time. Tribalism is fine as long as your tribe is in control. But it leads to retribution as soon as the other tribe gets control. I don't see that cycle ending well.
This is the truth. All of the division is going to be our undoing. But I don't see that changing. Both sides have their heels dug in completely. It will take a president that puts the country ahead of their own interests, someone who can put their own ego aside. We seem to be closer to Idiocracy than the 1980's.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:45 PM   #157
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I ain't looking for an alter boy for my President. I want a person that will work for what's best for the citizens and country as a whole.

President Trump has currently delivered on this IMO. Just imagine how much greater it could be if he had a little help from our other elected officials.
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I don't think he will run.
If you totally disregard his current ratings, performance, achievements and the fact that he has made comments welcoming his presidential challengers ..... then that seems like a well thought out reply.



Scorch him guys!!He's out hunting!!!! j/k
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If you totally disregard his current ratings, performance, achievements and the fact that he has made comments welcoming his presidential challengers ..... then that seems like a well thought out reply.



Scorch him guys!!He's out hunting!!!! j/k
Lol oh my goodness that's funny
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:25 PM   #160
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I didnt vote for a Presidential candidate this past election.
Then you really can't ***** about anything Trump does!!!
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Trump has done more in a shorter amount of time with the most people gunning to knock him of the top of the mountain and he just keeps making positive moves for America. He is getting my vote.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:47 PM   #162
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Hs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
yep....
just imagine how much more he could do if he got the media/gutless Reps support & royal azz kissing Obama got...
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I like the comparison to Reagan in just a little over 2 years as President and there is a reason for that (been hearing it a lot). Trump has taken a different Avenue to greatness than Reagan did but the end game is the same...the love of country and upholding the constitution as the core of his beliefs in leading this country. None of us here can disagree with that, it is our foundation on who we are as Americans. End of story. Go Trump!!!

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Voted for Cruz in the primary and Trump in the General election. And what a pleasant surprise to finally get a true conservative in the Whitehouse.

Trump is now mt 1st choice for 2020.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:29 PM   #165
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You missed getting to vote for Reagan. He was the best president we've had in at least 100 years, if not all time. He was a champion for constitutional conservatism, which (to my surprise and unexpected pleasure) Trump has been so far as well. But Reagan did it with SO much more class and grace. He was great at being unifying. He definitely had his haters in the media and on the left, just like Trump and Cruz and every other conservative always has. But Reagan won the hearts of the folks in the middle who aren't hopelessly committed to the left. He did it by getting things done in a classy and respectful way. We could sure benefit from someone like that at the helm today. The tribal conflict and outright hatred that our society is consumed by today is not good. Not good at all. Trump thrives on it and feeds into it. I wish that were different about him. He's done some really good things that I am really happy about. If the election were today and he was the nominee again (which I expect he'll be), I'd definitely vote for him this time. But I'd still have to hold my nose in doing so. He's clearly the lesser of the two evils between him and whoever the Democrats end up nominating. But he still leaves a lot to be desired when we need to unite the country again after all the extreme and increasingly hateful and dangerous division. I don't know what the fix is for that, other than Jesus. I don't believe any politician can fix what is so broken in our society now. I'd sure like to see a president and a BIG part of Congress trying though. We don't have that now, and we haven't had it for a long time. Tribalism is fine as long as your tribe is in control. But it leads to retribution as soon as the other tribe gets control. I don't see that cycle ending well.


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Old 02-19-2019, 09:38 PM   #166
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I think Trump really wants to do well for the country in his heart. If not so he could just say ďI single handedly saved the country, Iím the greatest president ever!Ē I donít think a wall hurts. Not sure how effective it will be but canít hurt IMO. I like what heís done with trade and N. Korea. Like him pulling out of The Middle East. But if he really wants to MAGA, do something about the INSANE SPENDING!!! Thatís the REAL threat to the country. I do think heís a low-life and an embarrassment. And I donít like the way he purposely plays to our lowest notions to rile up his base. If the dems keep putting up socialist to run. Trump will win again. If they find a half way moderate candidate itís over for Trump with most folks not liking him and his approval never getting out of the 40ís.


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Curious to hear what LWC, Be10dwn,Lynn21,Jason,BrianL,Duckmanep,Razrbk89 and Rubi513 think now having been 2 years in?
Like some of the others, still donít like the guy. Will likely vote third party again in 2020, unless Trump gets bumped by someone that would better represent me in the primary (unlikely, of course). Tired of the divisiveness that both parties continue to perpetuate. I just donít have any faith in either party, and I felt that way before the Trump train. I wish we didnít have to be concerned about the pendulum swinging back and forth so wildly with each election cycle.

I think heís been bad for our image worldwide, and just isnít a very good example. Many people will disagree & say that doesnít matter, it is just my opinion. To me, heís a lot like Obama, just on the other side of the aisle. I donít think things would be unrecognizably different than they are now under Hillary, though I must admit Iím glad the popular vote doesnít always count! He deals with a lot of criticism, some deserved, some not so much. The media circus that surrounds politics is distracting and disheartening. I think he genuinely wants the economy to continue to improve and I hope that it does.

At the end of the day, I just canít bring myself to respect someone like the Donald. Heís certainly done some good things since he was elected, but my neck of the woods has taken some hits in the last couple of years. Not all his fault of course, just doesnít leave a person feeling extra excited about the administration. 2020 will be interesting, thatís for sure.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:31 AM   #168
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Only that our ountry is not a democracy. We are a republic.
What's the difference in a representative democracy vs. A republic?

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Old 02-20-2019, 08:40 AM   #169
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Like some of the others, still donít like the guy. Will likely vote third party again in 2020, unless Trump gets bumped by someone that would better represent me in the primary (unlikely, of course). Tired of the divisiveness that both parties continue to perpetuate. I just donít have any faith in either party, and I felt that way before the Trump train. I wish we didnít have to be concerned about the pendulum swinging back and forth so wildly with each election cycle.

I think heís been bad for our image worldwide, and just isnít a very good example. Many people will disagree & say that doesnít matter, it is just my opinion. To me, heís a lot like Obama, just on the other side of the aisle. I donít think things would be unrecognizably different than they are now under Hillary, though I must admit Iím glad the popular vote doesnít always count! He deals with a lot of criticism, some deserved, some not so much. The media circus that surrounds politics is distracting and disheartening. I think he genuinely wants the economy to continue to improve and I hope that it does.

At the end of the day, I just canít bring myself to respect someone like the Donald. Heís certainly done some good things since he was elected, but my neck of the woods has taken some hits in the last couple of years. Not all his fault of course, just doesnít leave a person feeling extra excited about the administration. 2020 will be interesting, thatís for sure.

If he gets bumped we will never see a republican president again...
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:00 AM   #170
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Imo Trumps performance has been average at best. I think that any other Republican candidate could've done the same, and done it with more grace and tact.

When trump was firing up his base during campaign his platform was 1)repeal and replace 2)lock her up 3)build that wall. He may get one of those done and that's going to be done by circumventing our checks and balances.

On being a conservative...we've got more gun laws. Taxes were cut for the first year but will go back to what they were in 2020 and go up higher than that in 2022. Also, largest spending bill our country has ever had. Also, as a conservative, I'm not a fan of tariffs.

Economic trends are good, but they haven't changed much since 2009. I expect unemployment to level a bit as it approaches 0 because you will simply never have 0 unemployment so the closer you get them more it will level.

Political tension is really high. Can't put that on Trump but I certainly don't think he's done anything to help it.

Supreme court picks have been good imo and that will be the highlight of his presidency especially if he gets another pick.

I would love to see a R candidate that is a true fiscal conservative, moderate social conservative, and a model of Christian values. I'm not holding my breath though.

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I've been overall happy with his Presidency, but I would hardly consider him a "Conservative".
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Imo Trumps performance has been average at best. I think that any other Republican candidate could've done the same, and done it with more grace and tact.

When trump was firing up his base during campaign his platform was 1)repeal and replace 2)lock her up 3)build that wall. He may get one of those done and that's going to be done by circumventing our checks and balances.

On being a conservative...we've got more gun laws. Taxes were cut for the first year but will go back to what they were in 2020 and go up higher than that in 2022. Also, largest spending bill our country has ever had. Also, as a conservative, I'm not a fan of tariffs.

Economic trends are good, but they haven't changed much since 2009. I expect unemployment to level a bit as it approaches 0 because you will simply never have 0 unemployment so the closer you get them more it will level.

Political tension is really high. Can't put that on Trump but I certainly don't think he's done anything to help it.

Supreme court picks have been good imo and that will be the highlight of his presidency especially if he gets another pick.

I would love to see a R candidate that is a true fiscal conservative, moderate social conservative, and a model of Christian values. I'm not holding my breath though.

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I'm going to respectfully disagree with the statement I bolded above.

I don't think Cruz or any of the others running could have tamed little rocket man like President Trump has. I don't think any of them would stand up to China like President Trump has. I don't think any of them would take the stance on border security like Trump has.

He still has time to "lock her up"/ However, he really has no control over that. That is a function of the DOJ and FBI and is clear both of those agencies are as krooked as Hillary herself.

Is he perfect? No. He dang sure is working on MAGA and I appreciate his efforts.
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Unfortunately there aren't many left. All of this hard right talk you hear today is nonsense. The party has been moving left for as long as the Dems have, only with a few interuptions here and there. The only difference is the Dems had a head start. All they do is spend spend spend and spend some more. If it isn't on social programs, or wasteful projects set to fail from the beginning, it's warmongers wanting to jump into every conflict across the globe. All while they laugh in the back seat of limos on the way to deposit their kickbacks.

True conservatives in DC are a dying breed and i'm afraid their won't be any new blood anytime soon. What we saw and are seeing with Trump is a warning to anyone else who tries to come in and bust up their party of elites. They know they aren't getting rid of him. That is a facade. They are sending a message to others who aren't in their club who may try to do the same thing Trump did. Come interrupt our fun and life is going to be very difficult for you and those around you.
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Man seems like some people are just looking for a father figure in the president.
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:31 AM   #175
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What's the difference in a representative democracy vs. A republic?

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In a democracy the majority rules. You can end up with wolves and sheep both casting votes to see what's for dinner. It's all good when it's 50/50 but when you get 51 wolves it sucks really bad for the sheep.

With a republic you have some guidelines (the Constitution) that lay some ground rules.......no eating sheep even if 75% of the constituency wants too.
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In a democracy the majority rules. You can end up with wolves and sheep both casting votes to see what's for dinner. It's all good when it's 50/50 but when you get 51 wolves it sucks really bad for the sheep.



With a republic you have some guidelines (the Constitution) that lay some ground rules.......no eating sheep even if 75% of the constituency wants too.
That's a pure democracy right?

Afaik a "representative democracy" and a "republic " are synonymous. But it's been a while since I've had a civics class.


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Man seems like some people are just looking for a father figure in the president.
No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him donít realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldnít even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that donít like trump and wonít vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, itís sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didnít win.
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Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that don’t like trump and won’t vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, it’s sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didn’t win.
Did you not watch the Democratic Primaries and the Bernie Treatment?

Most say that's the only reason Trump won. Faithful Bernies said heck no after the DNC collusion.
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No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him donít realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldnít even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that donít like trump and wonít vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, itís sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didnít win.
I think you are underestimating Reagan, Cruz and a few others. Heck, Reagan took a bullet, joked about it, and kept on doing his thing. He defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot, due to his toughness and resolve. It's pretty hard to argue that he wasn't tough enough to make it in today's world.
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Did you not watch the Democratic Primaries and the Bernie Treatment?

Most say that's the only reason Trump won. Faithful Bernies said heck no after the DNC collusion.
Every primary race no matter which party, happens that way. They are all trying to stand out among each other then come back together when it counts.
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Did you not watch the Democratic Primaries and the Bernie Treatment?

Most say that's the only reason Trump won. Faithful Bernies said heck no after the DNC collusion.
Bernie got the treatment he did because he stood out against the party line candidates. the DNC effectively eliminated him as a candidate because of it. He is running again in 2020 and is now playing the racist/sexist/homophobic Republicans card like the rest of the loonies in the race. He did not do that during the last primaries. In fact he spoke out against it. Seems his masters got him in line.
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I think you are underestimating Reagan, Cruz and a few others. Heck, Reagan took a bullet, joked about it, and kept on doing his thing. He defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot, due to his toughness and resolve. It's pretty hard to argue that he wasn't tough enough to make it in today's world.
I donít doubt his toughness, accomplishments, or that he was a great president. Reagan did everything with class, like you stated earlier and we can both agree, but in 2016 that class would have been pushed to the side by Hillary by not hitting back. He would have been in shock at how ruthless things have become. Similar to Romney in 2012 with Obama, he tried being nice and what happened? Obama won another term.

Cruz, I like the guy, he was my second choice in the primaries if my 1st didnít win; but he has shown a few times to be a bit spineless. Not often, but he has shown weaknesses and I couldnít say with certainty that he would be able to endure what trump has.
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I was put off by Trump when he started running.. ii posted a thread on here asking if he was a hack. I dont like a lot of what he says nor how he comes across. I hate the fact that he burns bridges with folks like General Maddox.

All that aside, when I look at what he has DONE and committed to doing, I pretty much like all of it. He is a bull in the china shop. I guess some of that pretty china needed breaking. GO TRUMP.
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I was put off by Trump when he started running.. ii posted a thread on here asking if he was a hack. I dont like a lot of what he says nor how he comes across. I hate the fact that he burns bridges with folks like General Maddox.

All that aside, when I look at what he has DONE and committed to doing, I pretty much like all of it. He is a bull in the china shop. I guess some of that pretty china needed breaking. GO TRUMP.

Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Like him or not, he is exactly what's been needed to get something done for a long time. With the millennial attitude these days, you can't play nice with them and get anything done. You only can agree with what they say/want 100% of the time. THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING WITH THE LEFT. Can you say that out loud as many times as you can stand it? Because that's what its going to take from here on out. Look at what all has happened since he won the election, nothing but Hillary got cheated and impeachment talk. Since day one. They didn't get what they wanted, and by GOD, they are going to kick and scream and throw temper tantrums until that day comes. They won't stop, they've been told they are special all their lives and have had everything handed to them. If you think for a minute that a Reagan, Cruz or anyone else like them could win in todays environment, you are dead wrong. Nice don't win anymore. Trump plays them like a fiddle, and they can't figure him out. Love it.

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[quote=diamond10x;14004821]No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him donít realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldnít even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.



Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that donít like trump and wonít vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, itís sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didnít


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In a democracy the majority rules. You can end up with wolves and sheep both casting votes to see what's for dinner. It's all good when it's 50/50 but when you get 51 wolves it sucks really bad for the sheep.

With a republic you have some guidelines (the Constitution) that lay some ground rules.......no eating sheep even if 75% of the constituency wants too.
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That's a pure democracy right?

Afaik a "representative democracy" and a "republic " are synonymous. But it's been a while since I've had a civics class.


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The distinction between a republic and a democracy (any democracy) is the constitution. Both are governments ruled by the people. A democracy doesn't necessarily have to have a set of guidelines like the constitution, where a republics key is the constitution. With the constitution we keep the representatives on a chain...kind of ... it also sets our voting procedures for each electable branch.

Now, when you throw in the true democracy vs representative democracy you get a difference in how the vote are cast. A true democracy is one where the people have a direct say in everything. But, the majority population wins. The representative democracy is where you vote for a representative to vote on your behalf (much like what we do).

So, no a republic and a representative democracy are not the same, a democracy does not have to abide by a constitution.
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I think you are underestimating Reagan, Cruz and a few others. Heck, Reagan took a bullet, joked about it, and kept on doing his thing. He defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot, due to his toughness and resolve. It's pretty hard to argue that he wasn't tough enough to make it in today's world.
He also started the democrat shafting of the republicans (not saying he did anything wrong, he was trying to make a deal)... When he signed that amnesty deal, there was suppose to be some "future dealings" on fixing our immigration problems... 30+ years later the republicans are still falling for that trick and the dems get to say "well Reagan believed in amnesty"...
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Every primary race no matter which party, happens that way. They are all trying to stand out among each other then come back together when it counts.
They did not come back together at the election time. That was the entire point.
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I get your point, but itís also just one of numerous theories to why Hillary lost and trump won. You can agree to disagree but I would go as far as to say itís a fact that Democrats are dang good at coming together when it counts, much better than Republicans/conservatives, who cut each other down. Maybe that statement is just a theory as well.
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bunch of sore losers.
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I get your point, but itís also just one of numerous theories to why Hillary lost and trump won. You can agree to disagree but I would go as far as to say itís a fact that Democrats are dang good at coming together when it counts, much better than Republicans/conservatives, who cut each other down. Maybe that statement is just a theory as well.
It's not a theory, I have some Family that are Liberals that were good and ready to vote Woman and hear them roar. They did not. Just a sample size of about 10, but the comments in support, and the other mess I saw as a result seemed to echo that.

Funny thing though, they have started that they have to come together and get over it. Anybody but Trump is what they are saying. Seems familiar
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Old 02-20-2019, 04:41 PM   #194
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The distinction between a republic and a democracy (any democracy) is the constitution. Both are governments ruled by the people. A democracy doesn't necessarily have to have a set of guidelines like the constitution, where a republics key is the constitution. With the constitution we keep the representatives on a chain...kind of ... it also sets our voting procedures for each electable branch.

Now, when you throw in the true democracy vs representative democracy you get a difference in how the vote are cast. A true democracy is one where the people have a direct say in everything. But, the majority population wins. The representative democracy is where you vote for a representative to vote on your behalf (much like what we do).

So, no a republic and a representative democracy are not the same, a democracy does not have to abide by a constitution.
thanks for that! I realize I'm kinda getting into semantics here.

So, we are a republic, or "constitutional representative democracy" for short. lol

btw, how does north korea call itself a democratic republic? Seems like a monarchy to me. i didnt think they were "democratic" or "republic"
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thanks for that! I realize I'm kinda getting into semantics here.

So, we are a republic, or "constitutional representative democracy" for short. lol

btw, how does north korea call itself a democratic republic? Seems like a monarchy to me. i didnt think they were "democratic" or "republic"
Dictators can call themselves what ever they want.
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thanks for that! I realize I'm kinda getting into semantics here.

So, we are a republic, or "constitutional representative democracy" for short. lol

btw, how does north korea call itself a democratic republic? Seems like a monarchy to me. i didnt think they were "democratic" or "republic"
well you didn't think that N. Korea was going to call themselves
Pinko Commies did 'ya?
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No, I suppose not. Seems like a good fit though.

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No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him donít realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldnít even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that donít like trump and wonít vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, itís sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didnít win.
Agree with all this but really want to focus on our second paragraph. That is the single biggest difference aside from policy between RED and BLUE. Those lefties will unite and go down with the ship while we bicker amongst ourselves. We **** well better figure out how to fight together, and real quick.
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Agree with all this but really want to focus on our second paragraph. That is the single biggest difference aside from policy between RED and BLUE. Those lefties will unite and go down with the ship while we bicker amongst ourselves. We **** well better figure out how to fight together, and real quick.
The only wasted vote is an unprincipaled vote.
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Yeh. Eff those united nations principals.
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