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Old 02-25-2019, 07:06 PM   #1
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Default HR 8 and HR 1112 will be voted on in the house this week!

Under hr8 you will no longer be able to privately transfer a firearm, Without a background check. This includes passing firearms to relatives in a will, among many other unconstitutional things.
READ FOR YOURSELF

HR8
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...se-bill/8/text

Under HR1112 NICS background checks could be extended past 30 days with the delays that are written in

HR1112
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-.../1112?s=1&r=25

Another possible vote happening this week is
HR1263
Which will turn ANY SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE that accepts a detachable magazine into an NFA item. $200 tax stamp 6month wait ect....
I repeat ANY SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE that accepts a detachable magazine!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-.../text?r=13&s=1

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Old 02-25-2019, 07:09 PM   #2
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These **** well be DOA in the senate.
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:13 PM   #3
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These **** well be DOA in the senate.
They made it through committee and will probably pass the house this week.

We can only hope the Senate does kill them.
We have already seen republic support for other gun control measures, and a President that unconstitutionally penned the bump stock ban.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:15 PM   #4
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And the NRA is where?


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https://www.nraila.org

They are right here, telling you to contact your representatives. Where are you, have you already done this?
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:05 PM   #6
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Contact your Rep here it takes less than 30 seconds

https://gunowners.org/oppose-hr-8-hr-1112/

https://act.nraila.org/actions/campaigns/5518
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:23 PM   #7
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Speak up please. Click the links, share this with people you know, friends relatives, coworkers, ect...
We are all preaching to the choir for the most parts on forums like this, but we must help those that aren't as informed on this matter, and stress the importance to those that might not think it effects them and explain that it does.
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Old 02-26-2019, 02:04 PM   #8
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Just found this today. Executive Office says it's D.O.A. these may pass the house. Doubtful in the senate, but according to this the president will veto.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...r_20190225.pdf
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:14 PM   #9
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Just found this today. Executive Office says it's D.O.A. these may pass the house. Doubtful in the senate, but according to this the president will veto.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...r_20190225.pdf
Yep. When the pendulum swings to the left and they have all three branches, we will have a big fight on our hands.
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:42 PM   #10
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Yep. When the pendulum swings to the left and they have all three branches, we will have a big fight on our hands.
Yup. Look at how bold they are with just the House. They do not have control of the Senate or Executive and they have us scrambling to contact our representatives to shoot down their loony bills. They haven't even had control of the House for 2 months and they are leaving the Republicans in the dust with their agenda pushing. What does that all say about the "Republicans"?

Every session the Dems are pushing gun control bills. When is the last time we saw any serious pro-gun control legislation introduced?
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Old 02-26-2019, 06:35 PM   #11
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I have seen numerous comments on this forum about the NRA constantly begging for money or people being worn out from phone calls.

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Old 02-26-2019, 06:56 PM   #12
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NRA Is still a good source for news, but it seems they are not fighting as hard to protect the 2nd amendment as Gun Owners of America
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NRA Is still a good source for news, but it seems they are not fighting as hard to protect the 2nd amendment as Gun Owners of America
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They are and have been the one organization that has fought at every level to protect the 2nd and have been doing it longer than any organization.

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Old 02-26-2019, 07:37 PM   #14
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The difference is that the NRA has numbers and they have money. They also have a lot of influence because of this. Other organizations are great too. Just don’t mark the NRA off your list.
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I did not renew my NRA membership this year strictly because they supported the bump stock ban, and some red flag laws.
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I did not renew my NRA membership this year strictly because they supported the bump stock ban, and some red flag laws.


And that is the point of my previous post. The NRA has sold gun owners out more than once and on some pretty big legislation.

My support mainly goes to GOA and in state associations.


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And that is the point of my previous post. The NRA has sold gun owners out more than once and on some pretty big legislation.

My support mainly goes to GOA and in state associations.


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The other issue is that neither the NRA or anyone in DC ever plays offense. It's always reactionary crap to hold onto scraps of the rights we used to and should have. Repubs had the House, Senate and Presidency for 2 years and not one pro-gun bill was brought up. Dems haven't had the House for 2 whole months and they have a bunch of crap ready to go.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:14 AM   #18
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Looks like it passed the House or did I see misinformation? At least HR 8 did
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Looks like it passed the House or did I see misinformation? At least HR 8 did
It did. Supposedly DOA in the Senate, but I don't trust any of them.
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I hope they stick with it. I don't trust the administration on this matter.
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Old 02-28-2019, 02:35 PM   #22
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I hope they stick with it. I don't trust the administration on this matter.
I get the distrust, but frankly I donít think the Admin nor NRA had a legal leg to stand on. Bump stocks are not necessary to the safe or effective function of a firearm, therefore the protection of it by 2A doesnít really exist. Sometimes you gotta know when to fold em
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I get the distrust, but frankly I donít think the Admin nor NRA had a legal leg to stand on. Bump stocks are not necessary to the safe or effective function of a firearm, therefore the protection of it by 2A doesnít really exist. Sometimes you gotta know when to fold em
Except there was no one to bow to? They held House, Senate and Presidency. The NRA were the one's to bring it up in the first place. They were literally playing ball against themselves.

I also have a problem with the way they did it. According the the ATF, under the new regulation not only is a bump stock a firearm, it is a machine gun. They created regulation to fit them into a definition they do not fall under. That is a dangerous precedent. Not to mention they turned half a million law abiding citizens into felons overnight if they don't turn in or destroy personal property without compensation. Which is unconstitutional.
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Except there was no one to bow to? They held House, Senate and Presidency. The NRA were the one's to bring it up in the first place. They were literally playing ball against themselves.

I also have a problem with the way they did it. According the the ATF, under the new regulation not only is a bump stock a firearm, it is a machine gun. They created regulation to fit them into a definition they do not fall under. That is a dangerous precedent. Not to mention they turned half a million law abiding citizens into felons overnight if they don't turn in or destroy personal property without compensation. Which is unconstitutional.
The lawsuits against the unconstitutional bump stock ban are already underway. It should be overturned.
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The lawsuits against the unconstitutional bump stock ban are already underway. It should be overturned.
Let's hope so. However even if it does, hundreds of thousands of people will still have get rid of personal property or risk facing harsh criminal charges before anything is changed.
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Let's hope so. However even if it does, hundreds of thousands of people will still have get rid of personal property or risk facing harsh criminal charges before anything is changed.
I read two days ago, a judge upheld the ban in a suit brought by the firearms policy coalition.

The gun owners of America suit is still pending, and the hearing is scheduled for March 6th.

Deadline to turn in or destroy bump stocks is March 26th.
GOA is asking that the deadline is extended until the court battle is over.

I'm sure many bump stocks will end up being lost in a boating accident before March 26. I heard March 25 is national take your bump stock fishing day.
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