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Old 11-11-2019, 02:00 PM   #1
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Default How much crushed concrete do I need...

...to make a flat 12' wide road on clay soil that's 100-130 yards long? How much will it compress into the soil? How thick should I make it?
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:04 PM   #2
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You could make it on 2 inches but I would recommend 4 inches.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:05 PM   #3
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I'd say 3 trucks / 100'. Just a guess
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #4
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I think 50-60 cubic yards would be close. 4-5"
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:14 PM   #5
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Roughly 30 tons/24 cubic yards should cover three to four inches thick 12 feet wide 130 long
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:23 PM   #6
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396 cubic yards about 16 truck loads
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:30 PM   #7
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My driveway at the dairy is about 150 yards. I blade it’s with a 12’ drag blade and can top it 2”ish and fill pot holes with 3 belly dumps of crushed concrete. 2” don’t compress much. 4” obviously will more

If a private drive with no heavy equipment or loaded 18 wheelers 2” will last a long time a pack better than 4” at one time
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:33 PM   #8
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so how many tons of CC, for a RV pad

40' x 24 x 6"thick
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:37 PM   #9
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12 wide x 130 yards long x 4" thick=57.7 cubic yards

1 cubic yard will cover 81 sq ft 4" thick
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:39 PM   #10
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so how many tons of CC, for a RV pad

40' x 24 x 6"thick
A full 18 wheeler will be about perfect. How ever much that is
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:42 PM   #11
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One problem with 4” at once will be smash out vs compression. Your 12’ road will be 14’ with wagon trails in it. I’d seriously go about 2” and pack until it needs repair then 2” again
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Old 11-11-2019, 03:06 PM   #12
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A full 18 wheeler will be about perfect. How ever much that is
dang...cant get an 18 wheeler back there behind the shop
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:46 AM   #13
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Great, thanks guys.
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:20 AM   #14
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Put down some geotex fabric first it'll help hugely on how much it presses in the clay and prevent the wagon trails.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:22 AM   #15
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Typically you buy base or crusher concrete by the ton not by the yard. 4”x12’x390’ = 57.7 yards or about 80 tons
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:23 AM   #16
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so how many tons of CC, for a RV pad

40' x 24 x 6"thick
25 tons
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:41 AM   #17
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I did my driveway a few years back. 300’ long at 8” thick and I believe I used 6-7 truckloads. After three years it’s holding up perfectly.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:42 AM   #18
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where do you get crushed concrete, and what does a truck load cost?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:47 AM   #19
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Put down some geotex fabric first it'll help hugely on how much it presses in the clay and prevent the wagon trails.
X2. The geotex fabric is worth its weight in gold. Order it from a Lowe’s, Home Depot or Amazon.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:55 AM   #20
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So .....Did you get the answer you were looking for?

You have answers from 30 - 80 tons and from 24 cubic yards to 396 cubic yards.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:00 AM   #21
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I'd say 3 trucks / 100'. Just a guess
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396 cubic yards about 16 truck loads

Boy
And I thought getting pool estimates had a wide range
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:14 AM   #22
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Look into crushed brick. It does the same job, and is cheaper.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:28 AM   #23
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Put down some geotex fabric first it'll help hugely on how much it presses in the clay and prevent the wagon trails.


This X100!

Part of my road has fabric and part doesn’t, in 10 years I have never added rock to the portion with fabric but have had to add rock every other year on the rest.
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:27 PM   #24
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4" thick = 0.333'

12' x 390' x 0.333' = 1,558 cubic feet /27cf per cy = 57.5 CY.

Crushed concrete or aggregate base weighs approx 1.4 tons per cubic yard so.. 57.7CY x 1.4 = 80 tons
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:55 PM   #25
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I don't know about crushed concrete and what size pieces they have it crushed down to but my gravel guy recommends to put heavy rock down first on dirt/clay, the rock being 4-6" pieces then the smaller stuff (1 1/2 - 2") over that.
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Old 11-13-2019, 10:32 PM   #26
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Put down some geotex fabric first it'll help hugely on how much it presses in the clay and prevent the wagon trails.
Where do I buy this?
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X2. The geotex fabric is worth its weight in gold. Order it from a Lowe’s, Home Depot or Amazon.
^^^ There ya go. ^^^
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:40 AM   #28
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I think 50-60 cubic yards would be close. 4-5"
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Roughly 30 tons/24 cubic yards should cover three to four inches thick 12 feet wide 130 long
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396 cubic yards about 16 truck loads
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12 wide x 130 yards long x 4" thick=57.7 cubic yards

1 cubic yard will cover 81 sq ft 4" thick
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So .....Did you get the answer you were looking for?

You have answers from 30 - 80 tons and from 24 cubic yards to 396 cubic yards.
Yep. just pick whichever answer you like the most and run with it!

Sorry. I'm no help.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:32 AM   #29
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I don't know about crushed concrete and what size pieces they have it crushed down to but my gravel guy recommends to put heavy rock down first on dirt/clay, the rock being 4-6" pieces then the smaller stuff (1 1/2 - 2") over that.
This is the technique that most people say to go with. I didn’t use large rock as my base, but wish I would have.

I had a road made from red dirt and I capped it with crushed concrete. I’m not seeing a bunch of issues with it, but I’m going to do the next road differently and see if there’s a difference over time.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:17 AM   #30
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^^^ There ya go. ^^^
Yep, recalled seeing that after my post.

Based on the math some provided, my guess is 80 tons will do it, so that's what I'm aiming for.

Seems that there are two types of geotextile fabrics: woven and non-woven. Which do I I use?
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Yep, recalled seeing that after my post.

Based on the math some provided, my guess is 80 tons will do it, so that's what I'm aiming for.

Seems that there are two types of geotextile fabrics: woven and non-woven. Which do I I use?
Non woven.

I have used these to good effect on projects that required stabilization but were too small for lime to make sense.

https://www.tensarcorp.com/Systems-a...al-BX-geogrids
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:02 AM   #32
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Non woven.

I have used these to good effect on projects that required stabilization but were too small for lime to make sense.

https://www.tensarcorp.com/Systems-a...al-BX-geogrids
Well dang, just purchased a bunch of woven 200 geotextile. Did a little research and from what I understand, woven is good for stabilization and roads and non-woven is used in areas where water filtering is important, such as areas that pool water and to establish plants. I'd be curious why you suggest non-woven (because I honestly know nothing about this stuff)?
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Well dang, just purchased a bunch of woven 200 geotextile. Did a little research and from what I understand, woven is good for stabilization and roads and non-woven is used in areas where water filtering is important, such as areas that pool water and to establish plants. I'd be curious why you suggest non-woven (because I honestly know nothing about this stuff)?
You are fine. They both work. Non woven is usually cheaper and easier to drive equipment over.

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Old 11-14-2019, 11:11 AM   #34
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Length x width x depth x 1.35 (for compaction) divided by 27 will give you yardage. Various materials will have different weights so conversion to tons varies with the weight of the material. A good rule of thumb is yards x 1.35 again to get to tons.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:06 PM   #35
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You did good with Woven sorry just now seeing response, I hope you got a good price, i would've used a concrete place such as Hartman supply, HD Supply etc to purchase vs Lowes etc.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:53 PM   #36
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You did good with Woven sorry just now seeing response, I hope you got a good price, i would've used a concrete place such as Hartman supply, HD Supply etc to purchase vs Lowes etc.
Amazon had 6' x 300' rolls for $114. Got 3 rolls. Planning two rows for road width.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:54 PM   #37
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Do I need to kill off vegetation before laying fabric down?
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