Oh man with all the problems that come along with pools (even professionally built ones) I wouldn't dare build one without a pro doing all of it. Good luck however you decide to complete it
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Originally posted by bps3040 View PostLol, $30,000!. I am in business....good luck on that. Also, when subs realize you are a homeowner, they jack the price. Plus, if they cause/have problems, they have no reason to go back. I look forward to your build
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What's your markup? I've done a ton of research. I'll wait to post hard numbers. 700 sq ft, retention wall, pool/spa, variable pumps, flagstone/travertine, pebble sheen
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Originally posted by Swampa View PostAppreciated! I have a few contacts now, but not enough to get it done. I'm ready to move forward. Got. 811 scheduled and a plan in with the hoa. Hoping to get a jump start on the summer time rush.
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Originally posted by Pernell View PostWhere are you going to buy the pump, filter, cleaner, heater all the electronics and set them up so they work the way they are suppose to.
South Tx. One of my contacts has an account there. I can buy Jandy, pentair, or Hayward. He will order it through his account, I show up and buy it and pick it up.
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Also pool builders spread the risk over many pools
A little extra on each pool to cover catastrophic events that do happen.
An excavation mishap, cave in or floating pool happens to all builders every once in a while, They know how to handle it and budget for it.
You are not a priority customer so your hole will be open longer before gunite. No matter what they tell you, when a big storm is coming, you will be last on the list.
What will happen if your hole is open with forms set, steel and plumbing and electrical installed and we get a heavy rain or the 18 to 20" we got last April.
I have seen cave in's where the structure of the home was compromised.
I assure you when your insurance company finds out you were building your own pool, they will walk away.
What happens if you are the general contractor and a worker gets killed or severely injured?
See if you can get a real insurance certificate from a real insurance company (if the sub has one) listing you as the also insured for general liability and workers comp, It won't happen.
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You talk like this doesn't take place on a daily basis. Sure, there is a risk involved, but it's not the end of the world if something does go wrong. If so, I'll pay to repair it. If not I'm way ahead. Not sure what all the scare is about. I can use the same guys that the builder uses. What's the difference?
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I don't go into 7-11 and tell the guy behind the counter how to run the Slurpee machine. Why? Because I don't know how to run it myself. I am not excavation and utilities and I wouldn't build a pool for myself. Why? Because I don't know how. All those subs that do it for the pool builders still require guidance. Do you know what they should be doing and how it should be done properly? What are you going to do when one of the pipe under the pool starts leaking? How will you fix it? How much will it cost?
I hope all goes well with your build but don't be surprised with the issues you encounter along the way. Please do a build along or update us with your progress.
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Originally posted by texasair View PostAlso pool builders spread the risk over many pools
A little extra on each pool to cover catastrophic events that do happen.
An excavation mishap, cave in or floating pool happens to all builders every once in a while, They know how to handle it and budget for it.
You are not a priority customer so your hole will be open longer before gunite. No matter what they tell you, when a big storm is coming, you will be last on the list.
What will happen if your hole is open with forms set, steel and plumbing and electrical installed and we get a heavy rain or the 18 to 20" we got last April.
I have seen cave in's where the structure of the home was compromised.
I assure you when your insurance company finds out you were building your own pool, they will walk away.
What happens if you are the general contractor and a worker gets killed or severely injured?
See if you can get a real insurance certificate from a real insurance company (if the sub has one) listing you as the also insured for general liability and workers comp, It won't happen.
He's doing the same thing a custom pool builder does. He's subbing out all the work and not paying a builder $40k to sit on their arse and point a finger.
Btw...texasair, do you build pools?
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Originally posted by Take Dead Aim View PostI don't go into 7-11 and tell the guy behind the counter how to run the Slurpee machine. Why? Because I don't know how to run it myself. I am not excavation and utilities and I wouldn't build a pool for myself. Why? Because I don't know how. All those subs that do it for the pool builders still require guidance. Do you know what they should be doing and how it should be done properly? What are you going to do when one of the pipe under the pool starts leaking? How will you fix it? How much will it cost?
I hope all goes well with your build but don't be surprised with the issues you encounter along the way. Please do a build along or update us with your progress.
A top of the line builder is building one next to my house. I haven't seen a pool co guy out there more that 10 minutes. I promise, I've been keeping tabs on it too. Think about it, the same crews build all their pools, everyday. You think they don't know what they're doing?
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Originally posted by Pernell View PostWhere are you going to buy the pump, filter, cleaner, heater all the electronics and set them up so they work the way they are suppose to.
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Originally posted by texasair View PostAlso pool builders spread the risk over many pools
A little extra on each pool to cover catastrophic events that do happen.
An excavation mishap, cave in or floating pool happens to all builders every once in a while, They know how to handle it and budget for it.
You are not a priority customer so your hole will be open longer before gunite. No matter what they tell you, when a big storm is coming, you will be last on the list.
What will happen if your hole is open with forms set, steel and plumbing and electrical installed and we get a heavy rain or the 18 to 20" we got last April.
I have seen cave in's where the structure of the home was compromised.
I assure you when your insurance company finds out you were building your own pool, they will walk away.
What happens if you are the general contractor and a worker gets killed or severely injured?
See if you can get a real insurance certificate from a real insurance company (if the sub has one) listing you as the also insured for general liability and workers comp, It won't happen.
I know you have sense enough to ignore most of the above nonsense ....
No, your insurance company won't 'walk away'
"Also insured" -- lol
And following -- I'm with you all the way!
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