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Old 08-10-2017, 08:29 PM   #51
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I hunt in East and West Texas. If you're not a truly dedicated hunter that starts preparing for the upcoming season in February then East Texas may not be good to you.

There's not much more to add to this thread. I agree with everything GarGuy has stated. There are bigger deer in East Texas. They are just 1000 times harder to hunt.
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:36 PM   #52
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Let's be a little more realistic.
Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:38 PM   #53
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"No Deer In East Texas"
This guy is in East Texas and has bigger deer in his neighborhood than 80 percent of hunters will ever see on the hoof....

East Texas is hunting and if you can consistently kill deer here...then you can do it anywhere.

West Texas is shooting.

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Old 08-10-2017, 08:43 PM   #54
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Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !


Looks like a coastal telephone pole. Probably ruts in Aug/Sept.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:00 PM   #55
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The truth really don't look good

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Old 08-10-2017, 09:07 PM   #56
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Do you hunt around Paris? It seems like it rains up that way a lot more than where I am at.

Op, ask yourself this. Do you want to hunt or shoot? That's kind of what it sounds like people are getting at.
Nope we are west of Wichita Falls 30 minutes.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:11 PM   #57
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What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:13 PM   #58
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This guy is in East Texas and has bigger deer in his neighborhood than 80 percent of hunters will ever see on the hoof....

East Texas is hunting and if you can consistently kill deer here...then you can do it anywhere.

West Texas is shooting.

Blah blah blah you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos
Like I said earlier I really don't want to drive to some place that requires more time, money, effort for less results just seems counterproductive
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:21 PM   #59
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What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?
Now that is a whole different question

If you live East of 35 then West of 35 is West Texas.

If you live West of 35 then prolly a line from W. Falls to Abilene to San Angelo is Central Texas .

Anything West of that is West Texas.

I am from Abilene and to me that's the start of West Texas.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:26 PM   #60
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What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?
I think this is the biggest question of them all. To some people anything west of Abilene and Angelo is West Texas. When I lived in Lubbock everyone called it West Texas because it is in the western part of the Panhandle.

Big bodied deer in the Northern Rolling Plains and Panhandle. Pockets of big bodied deer west of Abilene and Angelo.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:28 PM   #61
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Blah blah blah you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos
Like I said earlier I really don't want to drive to some place that requires more time, money, effort for less results just seems counterproductive
I could kill a deer every sit...

The thing is, i hunt Alot. I live spending time in the woods yearound.

And i dont post pics anymore because people are prone to do really stupid stuff over deer
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:41 PM   #62
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Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !
They're just inbred and weird here, when you can find that magical unicorn we call a deer.

Sometimes they grow them down


Sometimes they mess up and grow them straight out. Bunch of misfits!
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:55 PM   #63
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My East Texas lease price has been going up for years. I may just start hunting public land with a trip to Missouri and Kansas once a year. I used to be able to hunt East Texas for less than 500 a year. Now it's a grand. Best deer I've taken at our lease top right. 147

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Old 08-10-2017, 09:59 PM   #64
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Blah blah blah you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos
There's a reason we don't post our pics!!!
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:02 PM   #65
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I'd go west. No deer in east texas


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Old 08-10-2017, 10:04 PM   #66
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East Texas has some very nice deer but they don't come in numbers and are very hard to hunt. West Texas everyday you will see so many more animals.
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:09 PM   #67
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If I was you and was planning on driving 6 hours to the west I would just find a place in Mexico to hunt a lot of deer and some big ones as well
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:11 PM   #68
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***disclaimer for photos: all deer were harmed in the posting of those pics.
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:14 PM   #69
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Totally agree. If you havent read YEAR IN THE LIFE OF A FARM thread by Elgato. Go read it. That will show you what East Tx can do..
Elgato is also doing it on private land. No worries of a timber company driving in at anytime and clearing everything you worked for. He does do an awesome job.The majority of hunting leases in East Tx are timber company land. You are basically playing Russian roulette when you join a timber company lease. Also, the soil in East Tx is no where near the rich soil he has in La. I know because I grew up in that area.


If you can get on a East Tx privately owned lease that is the way to go and less risky.

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Old 08-10-2017, 10:24 PM   #70
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I love hunting the piney woods. I have been leasing our property for 7 years and always kill a deer or 2 every year. Always have a couple 130's and a 150 or two running around. Yes it is harder hunting, some people like it and some don't. There are no deer in East Texas
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:25 PM   #71
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It just depends on your personal preference. I'd rather drive 6 hours and see deer every hunt than drive 30minutes to see zero deer over the course of a weekend. Only way I would pay to hunt a piece of property with a pine tree on it, would be with a tall fence around it.
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:30 PM   #72
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It just depends on your personal preference. I'd rather drive 6 hours and see deer every hunt than drive 30minutes to see zero deer over the course of a weekend. Only way I would pay to hunt a piece of property with a pine tree on it, would be with a tall fence around it.
I'm the exact opposite..no pines and I lose interest easily. Had a 320ac place to hunt for free 20 minutes from San Antonio for several years..hunted it once, saw deer, had a lot on camera, would rather drive 6hrs East (and did most weekends)
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:45 PM   #73
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West Texas proud here for 10 years.

To me...a deer lease is about so much more than inches or lbs..... but West Texas has a nice amount of both. The entire experience is what I look for.

I like seeing deer... even if I don't trip my release all year on a "monster". I enjoy watching deer as much as I enjoy shooting them. I don't hunt to watch birds (turkeys are OK.) Seeing deer is fun ...killing several deer a year is even more fun..

I love the people out west. They are a friendly bunch and laid back as a whole. The egos are checked at the gate.

I like the large leases and low members counts. I like leases where the deer herd health/numbers are more important than keeping the cost of the lease fee down. 7 hunters on 2400 acres of oak and mesquite is so much enjoyable than 25 folks on 800 acres of pines with 10 white oak trees. Less folks equals less problems and more deer for everybody.

I love the dry heat.... I also love the dry crisp mornings during winter. I love the lack of mosquitos and bugs in general. Rats and mice are also rare at our place.

I like all my **** to be there when I arrive at the lease. I like being able to leave stuff at my lease and know it's going to be there when I drive up. Hauling back what I have at my lease each trip would be a major PITA. Replacing it all because some methhead stole it would be even more of a PITA.

I like not having pictures of poachers and hog doggers. I like not having my hunt ruined by the guy on his 5 acres next door practicing for World War 3.

I love the smell of burning mesquite and ribeyes searing over it.



I hate..... the drive. .. especially on Sunday.

I hate 105 deg workdays in the summer.

I hated the 2010-2011 drought

My loves and likes far outweigh my hates though....

Did I say I love seeing deer?

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Old 08-10-2017, 10:55 PM   #74
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I've lived in ne Texas all my life. Started hunting south of Sweetwater 8 years ago and now don't hardly bother hunting my own 125 acres behind my house
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:58 PM   #75
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There are no deer in west Texas. Please don't come, it ain't worth it! All we got is small body, tiny antlers, and they are tough to come by... ain't worth the drive!
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:26 PM   #76
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Ask yourself a series of Questions.

Are you the kind of hunter that needs to see deer every sit? Yes=West No=East

Are you going to be badly disappointed if you don't kill your target deer every year? Yes=West No=East

Is a challenging deer season going to ruin your season? Yes=West No=East

It's night and day different hunting and I have spent quite a bit of time hunting both areas. The things I really didn't like about West was how badly the deer heard could be affected by droughts. I didn't like being limited to bowhunting out of a ground blind most of the time. I didn't like the fact that almost every place I ever hunted out west had cattle or some form of livestock to contend with.

All that said, it's fun knowing you're going to see multiple deer just about every sit when the feeder spins. Deer were much easier to pattern and hunt. I just about knew that if I located a target buck that I was going to get an opportunity to kill him if I put my time in.

The things I hate about East... PIGS! I hate them, they ruin my life! The deer are much harder to hunt in most cases. You may make multiple hunts without seeing a deer at all, especially if you're expecting to camp out and guard a feeder.

I love the hunting more in East Tx. It's a challenge and you really need to put some thought into every hunt. I love the sound of oak leaves crunching under a steady gait coming your way. I love when it all comes together and you get an arrow or bullet in a mature buck.

For me I pick East every single time but I'm also not going to choose the first place that comes available that has a pine tree on it. If you're fortunate enough to get on a well managed lease in E. Tx the sky is truly the limit on what you might shoot.


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Truth! I feel bad listening to all the people talk about crowded east TX hunting leases. Find the right one and it'll give west TX a run for its money every time.
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:39 PM   #77
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If you want pics of black panthers and bucks only on cam around midnight take the east Texas lease.

If you do go east Texas make sure you go with those quiet feeders for the really big 2 yr old bucks!
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:42 PM   #78
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Too many crazies in east Texas, I always choose to go west.
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:47 PM   #79
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If fed the same,, Ii feel east t will grow the largest bodies.. Look at Elgatos deer. They are the same east tx blood line and he gets them close to 300lbs by worming and making sure they are well fed.


Worming deer? I might as well go out back and kill the biggest cow. When you start worming deer you're running a cattle operation.


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Old 08-11-2017, 12:08 AM   #80
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709 inches, I mean reasons, I love East Tx. That's just shy of a 142" average. My West Tx avg is substantially lower.








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Old 08-11-2017, 12:14 AM   #81
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:38 AM   #82
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Hunted east Texas for 20 years in harrison county before the 13 inch rule. Very seldom did we get a nice deer (120 class). They place for let go due to timber rights, then the 13 inch rule went into effect, somkt might of helped it. But those 20 years has screwed me and I'll never go back. I hunt in west Texas now and love it. Best of luck.


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Old 08-11-2017, 12:40 AM   #83
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But I will say east Texas produces some big sum bi+chs!!


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Old 08-11-2017, 01:51 AM   #84
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I've been saying for years, the only thing wrong with East Texas is the East Texans. So before the people from East Texas pile on for saying that, I'm an East Texan.

I finally got fed up with all the poaching, theft and trespassing. It was a constant battle. If you weren't there enough, people started to think you were gone and they'd treat the place like their own.

I love being able to hunt a place that I don't EVER have to worry about.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:28 AM   #85
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The lease I belong to in East Tx now has been around for over 40 years. I certainly hope it lasts that much longer. I just dumped about ten grand into it and look forward to learning the place. I enjoy East Tx because it is a short enough drive that I can go just about anytime I like. Plus, the challenge of hunting East Tx is a lot like hunting La.

Besides, I like shooting woodys, squirrels, and rabbits also. Nothing like watching that sun come up from a tall pine or big oak on a creek bottom.

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Old 08-11-2017, 08:41 AM   #86
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I have hunted both and I have to say if you enjoy seeing deer just about ever time you go out then go west. If you enjoy fighting skeeters, seeing one deer a month maybe and it not being big enough to make it legal then hunt east. Yes there are places in ET that have more deer but most of those are taken. Yes I know there are big deer in ET too but if you go WT in the right areas you get the big bonus of exotics. Which you can hunt year round, taste better, and most have a lot more meat on them than a whitetail in TX ever dreamed of having. Also you can legally kill those pesky rattle snakes in WT. I live in Waller county and we are in the post oak savanna looking area, no pine trees, and we have a decent deer herd around the house but that mostly because not many folks hunt them. Growing up around there we rarely seen any deer. We got a place in Leaky and WOW we would see deer everyday. So its up to what you can afford or preference but for the shear fun of seeing lots of animals Id go west. Mason and Brady area have some good sized bucks and a few exotics running around plus turkeys. I sat on day and had 21 deer at my stand and only 3 were does. Of the bucks 6 were 4yrs old or older. You just do see that in ET getting on a lease.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:13 AM   #87
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Something else to consider is how much time you get off work to hunt. To me a trip to West Texas isn't worth it for anything less than 3 days. With my ETX lease I can on the stand in 45 minutes so I can hunt pretty much any weekend at least a couple of hunts. So when your wife makes Saturday night dinner plans on the October full moon you can still hunt Saturday morning drive home then go back Sunday morning.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:33 AM   #88
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LOL at West is "shooting". I am in San Saba, not west and I have been hunting the same two bucks for 3 years. Have not been able to get a shot. They should be 150ish this year.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:35 AM   #89
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LOL at West is "shooting". I am in San Saba, not west and I have been hunting the same two bucks for 3 years. Have not been able to get a shot. They should be 150ish this year.
That's just because you suck at hunting and smell like BBQ and stale beer!
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:53 AM   #90
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The closest I've hunted to West Texas is the Hill Country and saw more deer than I've seen in one season at a feeder than back East. However, in my opinion, there's nothing like being in a yaupon thicket surrounded by big pine trees with creek bottoms filled with oak flats. I love the challenge of East Texas hunting. It can be frustrating but when you finally connect on something you know you worked hard for it. Also East Texas has taught me to be a smarter/better hunter and the deer in my opinion are bigger. One more thing to note, I've seen Chocolate brown antlers on deer every where but for some reason I see it more frequently on East Texas deer. I don't know why and I could be wrong but I love those shiny Chocolate brown antlered Bucks
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:19 AM   #91
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LOL at West is "shooting". I am in San Saba, not west and I have been hunting the same two bucks for 3 years. Have not been able to get a shot. They should be 150ish this year.
I tend to agree with the "shooting" meaning I could tag out in a weekend out west, maybe in one day. Here in NE I probably could not do it in a season. If you are saying you wouldn't shoot anything less than 150", NEITHER place is easy hunting but 125-150" in more likely out west. You will be less bored out west waiting for that 150+ you may never see. If you raise that number to 170" you are more likely to shoot that deer in ET, but still odds are WAY against you. And you will have many many many boring sets waiting for that monster.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:29 AM   #92
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That's just because you suck at hunting and smell like BBQ and stale beer!

Puff puff give.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:30 AM   #93
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I tend to agree with the "shooting" meaning I could tag out in a weekend out west, maybe in one day. Here in NE I probably could not do it in a season. If you are saying you wouldn't shoot anything less than 150", NEITHER place is easy hunting but 125-150" in more likely out west. You will be less bored out west waiting for that 150+ you may never see. If you raise that number to 170" you are more likely to shoot that deer in ET, but still odds are WAY against you. And you will have many many many boring sets waiting for that monster.
The goal is mature deer. Not babies.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:32 AM   #94
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I have always hunted central or West TX and love it.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:47 AM   #95
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The goal is mature deer. Not babies.
I still could with mature deer.... Not 150", but 120-130" 3-4 year old and older.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:00 PM   #96
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I hear the East texas deer season is longer. 365 days - 24 hrs a day
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:19 PM   #97
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I think this is the biggest question of them all. To some people anything west of Abilene and Angelo is West Texas. When I lived in Lubbock everyone called it West Texas because it is in the western part of the Panhandle.

Big bodied deer in the Northern Rolling Plains and Panhandle. Pockets of big bodied deer west of Abilene and Angelo.
This^^^ Some people consider the panhandle west Tx. Big difference in deer qualities from panhandle to what I consider west Tx.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:06 PM   #98
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Something else to consider is how much time you get off work to hunt. To me a trip to West Texas isn't worth it for anything less than 3 days. With my ETX lease I can on the stand in 45 minutes so I can hunt pretty much any weekend at least a couple of hunts. So when your wife makes Saturday night dinner plans on the October full moon you can still hunt Saturday morning drive home then go back Sunday morning.
That's a big deal. I grew up hunting either a 4wheeler ride from the house or a 15 minute ride to another lease. There was no wait for the weekend when there was plenty of daylight left after school. Unless the weather was just horrible, we'd usually see deer. Give me a evening where the temps already dipped into the 30s and the floodgates would open.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:49 PM   #99
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It really doesn't matter if you're a "bait hunter" or a shooter.....if you're a hunter, East Texas is far more rewarding. I grew up hunting in East Texas and didn't know what a feeder was until I got on a lease in The Hill Country. To each his own, I prefer finding the deer and not having them find the feeder.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:32 PM   #100
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I'm looking at getting my first lease and have seen some good options in both East and West TX but I understand they can be very different..

What are y'alls opinions on pros/cons of either?
Is "seeing" deer is important, West Tx is the ticket.

If you want a challenge that will push you to the edge of your patience, East Texas is just for you.

The quality and size of deer may be a little bigger here in SE Tx

West Tx is a target rich environment.
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