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Old 07-16-2017, 12:12 AM   #1
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Anybody know the details on why they aren't doing one this year? Tried to enter like always as that's the main hunt I want every year. Said something about conservation efforts in the area
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:19 AM   #2
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I assume the numbers don't support a hunt this year. I trust the folks a TPWD working on bighorns so I'll just wait to draw next year
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:14 AM   #3
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Probably due to some conservation efforts or something
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:55 AM   #4
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Probably due to some conservation efforts or something
Im so glad we have someone as smart as you to point that out

Im asking if anyone knows exactly what it is they are doing. I am curious. This was my year to draw
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:51 AM   #5
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They'll probably claim lack of manpower.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:07 PM   #6
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I don't know why you're so concerned, it most definitely my year to draw.

My guess is the numbers aren't so good. I seem to remember hearing of some concerns about year or two back.

I think that's always been a very fragile heard.

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Old 07-16-2017, 12:23 PM   #7
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The herd at Sierra Diablo has been declining, other than that I think they are doing ok. My guess is they will be relocating more sheep around.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:43 PM   #8
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The herd at Sierra Diablo has been declining, other than that I think they are doing ok. My guess is they will be relocating more sheep around.
Sheep numbers in that area of state are down, but still holds largest population of sheep.
They will still hunt Black Gap and Elephanta WMAs. (Auction and grand slam)

They are going to do a relocation in not too distant future, but not from Diablo and surrounding ranges.

Bighorns are weak hearted, always looking for a cave to crawl in and die.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:18 PM   #9
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GUIDED BIGHORN SHEEP HUNT PACKAGE

Application Deadline: October 15, 2017
Due to desert bighorn sheep restoration efforts between Trans-Pecos WMAs scheduled for this year, prospects for a guided bighorn sheep hunt are uncertain. If a permit becomes available, the guided bighorn sheep hunt category will become active and public hunters with an email on file will receive notification.
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Old 08-16-2017, 03:43 PM   #10
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Yeah, I have a really good idea.....

Tpw in their infinite wisdom, f'd it up.

Likely they relocated the ones they were going to let some poor sap kill to some private land, but killed them in the process of moving them.....
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Old 08-16-2017, 04:16 PM   #11
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They announced they are doing a helicopter survey right now " pretty cool pictures "
I would think they have two rams to spare? But WTH do I know I just see them from our road

I wish this hunt was more handicapped friendly

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Old 08-16-2017, 04:22 PM   #12
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Yeah, I have a really good idea.....

Tpw in their infinite wisdom, f'd it up.

Likely they relocated the ones they were going to let some poor sap kill to some private land, but killed them in the process of moving them.....
I talked to the guy that heads up the sheep program. He guided my hunt. It sounds like they just didn't get their survey done in time, so I guess they didn't want to schedule a hunt without knowing for sure they had some mature rams to hunt. I have no idea why they didn't get the surveys done in time. The TPWD draw website now says basically that if they get the surveys done and it looks like they could do a hunt then they'll put the drawing up on their website and send everybody that's in the system an email notification.

https://www2.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwi...phtml?OCat=BXX

I've been seeing their photos of the helicopter surveys on facebook lately and there are some pics of some mature rams in there, so maybe that will happen soon??
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:05 PM   #13
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Feel free to believe that if you want, but I saw the dead ones with my own eyes that they tried to move to private land, and then blamed it on an STD when they died.

Either they are idiots or they think we are.....
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:46 PM   #14
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and then blamed it on an STD when they died.
TPWD gots some explainins' to do
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:13 PM   #15
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Feel free to believe that if you want, but I saw the dead ones with my own eyes that they tried to move to private land, and then blamed it on an STD when they died.

Either they are idiots or they think we are.....
Sheep cannot handle stress very well, but sheep killed on transplants are few and far between.
Large part of transplanted sheep come from private land and get moved to both state land or other private property.
Without these transplants there would be much fewer hunting opputinuties for both public and private property.
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Tpwd gots some explainins' to do :d
Aggies!!
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:05 PM   #17
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Aggies!!
True story.

Pretty neat video of TPWD helicopter surveys earlier this month down by Black Gap. Couple of nice rams.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=63-JuFFv0zM
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Old 08-24-2017, 06:40 AM   #18
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Sheep cannot handle stress very well, but sheep killed on transplants are few and far between.
Large part of transplanted sheep come from private land and get moved to both state land or other private property.
Without these transplants there would be much fewer hunting opputinuties for both public and private property.
These didn't.

That still doesn't explain moving the sheep to an area where there are already non-native and competing species, especially after that was one of the original parameters of the program.

I'd like some of those on my property, you think I can get some sheep?
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Old 08-24-2017, 10:35 AM   #19
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These didn't.

That still doesn't explain moving the sheep to an area where there are already non-native and competing species, especially after that was one of the original parameters of the program.

I'd like some of those on my property, you think I can get some sheep?
You will never eliminate all non-native species in sheep county. With lack of State property that is suitable sheep habitat, TPWD has to look at private.

Without the removal of numbers on small area like Elephant, just a matter of time before disease or lack of food takes em all out.

As far as sheep on your property, call TPWD. You meet their requirements, it is a possibility.
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