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Old 09-05-2015, 09:49 AM   #1
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I've been told that the Hoyt Spyder can be completely silent by several different people who has seen this accomplished.

Mine doesn't need to be dead silent, though that would be ideal, but I'd like it to be a lot more quiet than it is.
What can I do to quiet down my bow without loosing a lot of speed?

I shot at 3 deer last year, all inside 30 yards, and all 3 jumped the string and ducked my arrow.
They were all COE deer, so their nerves were jumpy anyways, but my noisy bow didn't help.

Any suggestions?
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:53 AM   #2
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You shoot from a ground blind or elevated?
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:27 PM   #4
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Heavier arrow is the most simple noise reducer. Also you could use some string leeches to help.

But number one is don't shoot a alert high strung deer. Take your time , let them calm down some and then BAM! Right in the pump house.
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:14 PM   #5
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^^^ nailed it, heavier arrows and string silencers will do wonders. might even try different stabilizers also
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:53 PM   #6
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Man not sure what noise your getting out from your bow, I have 4-Hoyt's Bows all set up to 65 pounds 30 inch draw and I shoot carbon express Maxima hunters 350s out of all them very quite and never had a deer jumping a arrow
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:01 PM   #7
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I think it's all string noise.

May have to try the leeches.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:03 PM   #8
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I think it's all string noise.

May have to try the leeches.

I shot mine last year with no leaves and was nice and quiet. What grain arrow are u shooting ? Like others said a heavy arrow will solve it.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:41 PM   #9
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Try some wishbone on the string and check your string stop..those bows aren't normally loud.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:44 PM   #10
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I shot mine last year with no leaves and was nice and quiet. What grain arrow are u shooting ? Like others said a heavy arrow will solve it.


Arrow weight is 372 gns
72 # DW

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Old 09-05-2015, 09:33 PM   #11
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Arrows too light for quiet. I shoot a carbon spyder 34 with either 450 grain arrows or 500 grain arrows. It's quiet and I have yet to see something jump. My heavy arrows are going 280 fps+ and blew through a grizzly bear. My 450 grain arrows shot through muskox and moose last year. My sweet spot for arrows is 425-450 grains. If bigger animal then I go up.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:33 PM   #12
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A heavier arrow and cat whiskers. I love cat whiskers, they just plain work.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:01 PM   #13
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I shoot a pretty heavy arrow around 480 grains i think. Mines pretty quiet but I also just changed strings and lost my string leeches so that may bump up my noise a little. Im also thinking of going to a bstinger stab this season. Anyone run one on their spyder and like it?

OP what model are you shooting? Your pic looks like a carbon spyder?
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I shoot a bstinger on mine and really like it.
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Old 09-06-2015, 01:06 PM   #15
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OP what model are you shooting? Your pic looks like a carbon spyder?


Yup
'14 Carbon Spyder


So I'm no arrow expert.
Is there a way to add weight to an arrow itself?
Obviously the top, but beside the tip, I want to stay with the tips I have simply because I don't want to sell off what I have to buy more. (I'd lose more coin than it's worth)

Or do I just need to buy a heavier arrow? FMJs or something? I have a couple of those. May try them just to see the difference.

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Old 09-06-2015, 02:35 PM   #16
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Yup
'14 Carbon Spyder


So I'm no arrow expert.
Is there a way to add weight to an arrow itself?
Obviously the top, but beside the tip, I want to stay with the tips I have simply because I don't want to sell off what I have to buy more. (I'd lose more coin than it's worth)

Or do I just need to buy a heavier arrow? FMJs or something? I have a couple of those. May try them just to see the difference.
To make a a heavier arrow by adding tip weight you need to have the stiffest spine you can handle. Which is any research what u want to do and what kind arrow you'd like to build. To me going up to 420-450 will do u good whether u pick easton or black eagle it can be done. Prolly a 340-300 spine will be what u need
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Old 09-06-2015, 03:57 PM   #17
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I went to Grizzly stiks website and took there 650 challenge. I was skeptical but unbelievable how much more accurate and quieter my Carbon Spyder 34 is now. Yes I lost some speed but it hits like a Mack truck. I was shooting a 440 grain Goldtip Kinectic before.
Now when I shoot a Kinectic the bow sounds a lot louder and with the Grizxly stik. My finished Grizzly stik weight is 655 grains. Very very forgiving. I haven't shot a arrow that cuts through the wind like these do. No holding right or left. Just hold on the spot and execute the shot as always.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:09 PM   #18
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I agree with a heavier arrow. I was all about speed until I had one completely dodge my arrow. Went to a 411 grain arrow and added cat whiskers. That got me very very quiet. Shot two deer at 35 and neither ducked or jumped.
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Old 09-07-2015, 06:38 PM   #19
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Alright
I have some arrows that are weighing in at 490 gns now. (118 gn difference)
I'll compare. Hope I don't need to add leeches but will if I need to.
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You will hear a differenc with them arrows.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:33 PM   #21
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Alright
I have some arrows that are weighing in at 490 gns now. (118 gn difference)
I'll compare. Hope I don't need to add leeches but will if I need to.
Use cat whiskers. Even smaller whiskers can look good and do a great job of silencing.
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Man not sure what noise your getting out from your bow, I have 4-Hoyt's Bows all set up to 65 pounds 30 inch draw and I shoot carbon express Maxima hunters 350s out of all them very quite and never had a deer jumping a arrow
Hoyt reflex Super slam
Hoyt Carbon element
Hoyt Carbon spider
Hoyt nitrum

I'm shooting a Spyder 30 and looking at replacing it with Carbon Element w/ G3's. Any opinion? Would this be a good move? I feel the Spyder 30 is a little jumpy with such a narrow valley & has a vibration after the shot.
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Arrows too light for quiet. I shoot a carbon spyder 34 with either 450 grain arrows or 500 grain arrows. It's quiet and I have yet to see something jump. My heavy arrows are going 280 fps+ and blew through a grizzly bear. My 450 grain arrows shot through muskox and moose last year. My sweet spot for arrows is 425-450 grains. If bigger animal then I go up.
Way too light for your draw weight.

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A heavier arrow and cat whiskers. I love cat whiskers, they just plain work.
This will do the trick.

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Alright
I have some arrows that are weighing in at 490 gns now. (118 gn difference)
I'll compare. Hope I don't need to add leeches but will if I need to.
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You will hear a differenc with them arrows.
Bow will be very quiet with this weight, you have now.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:29 AM   #24
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It made a little difference.
But still wasn't as quiet as I'd like.
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It made a little difference.
But still wasn't as quiet as I'd like.
Add string leaches/cat whiskers/monkey tails whichever you prefer and it will get quieter guaranteed. I shot my bow without the monkey tails one time and it was a LOT louder than with them on. I was very surprised how much of a difference they make.
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OP,thanks for the thread. I have a 2015 Carbon Spyder 34 that I'm fixing to get set up for me and was wondering about arrows also. Thanks to everyone that replied with great info
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Add string leaches/cat whiskers/monkey tails whichever you prefer and it will get quieter guaranteed. I shot my bow without the monkey tails one time and it was a LOT louder than with them on. I was very surprised how much of a difference they make.
The monkey tails did make a difference, but I had to keep an eye on them or they worked their way down the string and into the cam.
I didn't care for that much, so I took them off.
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The monkey tails did make a difference, but I had to keep an eye on them or they worked their way down the string and into the cam.
I didn't care for that much, so I took them off.
I have that problem too, except mine make their way towards the center of the string. I dont care for it either.

I may need to try one of these other dampners myself now that I think about it...
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A heavier arrow and cat whiskers will help. Im shooting 29in. Easton Axis 340, 420gr.-100gr broadhead at 302 FPS and i do not have any problem hitting my spot.
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I can my hoyt spyder is really quiet. Im still going to add a fuse stabilizer to it and take it from there.
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