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Old 08-12-2017, 08:35 PM   #1
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Last November, I was lucky enough to be in line to take the traveling bow Sacajawea out and hunt with her during the best part of our deer season up here. Up until that point, the season had been fairly slow, but I was optimistic in that something would show up sooner or later knowing what I'd gotten on camera throughout the early season.
Anyhow fast forward to November 7th, and after sitting in a literal downpour all day, the weather broke and at 1:45ish that afternoon I got a chance at one of my target bucks. I felt like I did every thing in my power correctly, but the buck dropped a ton causing me to hit him high in the shoulder. The hit would result in little blood loss, a broken arrow with the broadhead still in him and my heart broken to pieces like a kid that just got dumped on prom day.......

I searched high and low for him both during season and after, never getting any more pictures of him that I was aware of. I did pick up a shed I thought was potentially his, but it had a big time broken of so I couldn't say for sure it was his.

Fast forward to this year, I finally got out to the place to put a few cameras out a couple weeks back and went to check them today. Low and behold, one of the first deer to show their faces...





I was shocked to see how big he'd gotten, but I honestly was more happy to see that he made it to live another day and I didn't lose such an awesome critter. Now, I'm sure hoping he gives me another chance so I can maybe retrieve my broad head out of his back from last year!!

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Old 08-12-2017, 08:41 PM   #2
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Hopefully he shows up and you can get the deal done !
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:47 PM   #3
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Awesome!
That is one he!! Of a deer!!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:49 PM   #4
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Nice!!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:58 PM   #5
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Wow , what a buck. Glad the buzzards didn't get him. Good luck !
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:58 PM   #6
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That's a monster, Shiloh! Glad he made it. Hope you get him this year!
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:25 PM   #7
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When you shoot him this year give me a holler. I'll just mark the spot on my GPS and that way I can come help you any time after that
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:30 PM   #8
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:49 PM   #9
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Cool story, good luck
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:53 PM   #10
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That's a great buck. Hope you get him this year!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:24 PM   #11
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He's a beast! Hope you get another chance at that bruiser!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:33 PM   #12
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That's a biggun! It's a relief when you find out they made it. Good luck with him this year!
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:34 PM   #13
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This is not good stuff. Wounding an animal really blows.
Hope the OP drops the Indian stick and string method and kills this deer the next time. Wounding it twice would be disgusting..........
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:43 PM   #14
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This is not good stuff. Wounding an animal really blows.
Hope the OP drops the Indian stick and string method and kills this deer the next time. Wounding it twice would be disgusting..........
Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:53 PM   #15
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
Why are you on a bowhunting website? I have $100 that says Shiloh can outshoot you with his stick and string (since he is an IBO world champion and has won the Texas longbow shoot several times). He is also a really good hunter and a great guy.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:56 PM   #16
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Good to hear!! **** happens in bowhunting. Glad you get another shot at him. Screw a rifle.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:58 PM   #17
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
What???
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:02 PM   #18
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............


What the hell? Have another bourbon
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:24 PM   #19
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Hope you get him this year! It will make for an awesome story!


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Old 08-13-2017, 12:23 AM   #20
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
It happens with guns also, I have put my dog on several blood trails of deer that were shot with rifles that were too much alive to recover. 4 that I can think of were back on cameras within a month.

To the OP, wish you could have gotten him last season but now he has another year of age and is a great buck, hope you get him this year.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:32 AM   #21
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Get after him. Good luck and keep us posted.


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Old 08-13-2017, 08:19 AM   #22
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This is not good stuff. Wounding an animal really blows.
Hope the OP drops the Indian stick and string method and kills this deer the next time. Wounding it twice would be disgusting..........
Agreed that wounding sucks. Dead and wasted sucks more. It could have been worse.

The last comment however is over the top though. We all know that **** happens. Be it with a compound, crossbow, or rifle too. Seen plenty cases of unrecovered rifle shot deer.

You may have had bad experiences in the past... but I am certain in the grand scheme of things, your sample size is small and your comment is being very narrow minded.




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This is not good stuff. Wounding an animal really blows.
Hope the OP drops the Indian stick and string method and kills this deer the next time. Wounding it twice would be disgusting..........
It does stink to wound one. I see rifle wounded deer all the time. I've even put them down with a bow before. What is good is the deer made it and obviously is doing well. Just because it may be beyond you to be lethal with an "Indian stick" doesn't mean others aren't.

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Old 08-13-2017, 08:54 AM   #24
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What the hell? Have another bourbon
Yeah I need to adopt that rule myself. No posting under the influence.

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Old 08-13-2017, 09:25 AM   #25
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
I've seen plenty of game wounded by rifles as well, this is a BS statement!

To the OP very nice buck hopefully you get a shot at him this year.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:35 AM   #26
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Nice buck! I'm glad to see he pulled through. Good luck at getting another chance this year.
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
I normally agree with most of your posts, and you seem like a good guy...but you know this is a bowhunting website right?
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:07 AM   #28
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Good Luck, he will make a great trophy.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:13 AM   #29
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Great looking buck, good luck this year.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:17 AM   #30
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Ran a large lease in central Texas for 22 years. This is a lease managers worst nightmare. Great example why bow hunting should be restricted on most leases.............
You sir are a very mis-informed individual that obviously has very little understanding of the lethality of archery equipment!!!! And as such should refrain from making hateful comments about the choice of weaponry used by other outdoorsman. Especially when you are reading posts on a BOW HUNTING forum under the TRADITIONAL ARCHERY section.

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Old 08-13-2017, 10:20 AM   #31
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Maybe but name calling on the internet is not nice either.

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Old 08-13-2017, 10:32 AM   #32
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Wounding happens.. it's part of the game. We all strive to be our best but it will happen to most of us sometime in our hunting career. We must all realize in nature there is no peaceful death. An animal either dies slowly from disease or starvation. Ran over by a vehicle or gets eaten alive by another critter. So in truth death by either a bullet or broadhead is the most humane death an animal can receive.
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wounding happens.. It's part of the game. We all strive to be our best but it will happen to most of us sometime in our hunting career. We must all realize in nature there is no peaceful death. An animal either dies slowly from disease or starvation. Ran over by a vehicle or gets eaten alive by another critter. So in truth death by either a bullet or broadhead is the most humane death an animal can receive.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:50 AM   #36
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Keep us updated on this deer! I hope you get another crack at him. Heck of a buck!
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:49 PM   #37
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Good luck getting him this year.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:55 PM   #38
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Thanks all. It was a relief to see his face show up on camera.


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Old 08-13-2017, 03:57 PM   #39
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I know I should leave it alone but I can't imagine that a " lease manager " for any length of time at all has not see many many deer lost after being shot with a rifle. Something doesn't add up, I see deer that are literally blown up inside, heart, lungs and liver, by fellow hunters every year that run for a half a mile or more. Every year usually more than one are lost.
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Seems like he may have tucked his tail and ran!!! Really surprised at his comment.
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:19 PM   #41
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This is not good stuff. Wounding an animal really blows.

Hope the OP drops the Indian stick and string method and kills this deer the next time. Wounding it twice would be disgusting..........


Hmm.... as with many whom have quoted your reply, I honestly don't know where your reply could be viewed in any way as constructive or informative ESPECIALLY since this is a BOW HUNTING forum?? But maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

I have not had the experience you have had running a large lease for a long amount of time, but have helped guide both bow and rifle hunters on several occasions and can say the odds of wounding an animal are just as high with a rifle or a bow. I've seen guys who think because they have a rifle in their hands they paid several thousand dollars for with a scope that cost a couple grand more on top of it think they could put a hole in the moon with it, when in reality they couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if they were standing inside, right in the center of it. I've also seen guys with the most rigged out compounds shooting 350+ feet a second swearing they could hit a lid off a longneck bottle at a 100 yards not even know what pin they ended up using to shoot at a pig standing less than 15 yards away. On the flip side, I know people who could shoot anything they put their hands on (whether it be gun or bow) regardless of distance or or animal and kill everything they shoot at. Heck, last summer I witnessed my wife kill a gemsbok and a kudu with her bow less than 15 minutes apart and both fall within sight deader than a hammer. Not 20 minutes later, our PH pulls up followed by another truck loaded with people and the big time rifle hunter with his custom Mcworter rifle and Nightforce scope the size of a telescope searching for a Roan antelope he'd shot in the knee from less than 100 yards out (that we'd just seen over an hour before they showed up) that was limping away some few miles away from where he'd originally shot it! Our PH told my wife "that's the way to show these gun hunters how it's done!" as we set less than 75 yards from our blind admiring her kudu and the other group of folks drove on threw with their jaws hanging down as they went on to pursue his gun shot roan.
All that said, weapons are not the issue, it's the person behind them that is in control.

Onto the "Indian Stick"...
I know folks who shoot traditional gear that shouldn't push past 10 yards with there shots and others that I'd I know that couldn't miss regardless of how far they were shooting critters at. Some of those folks got into traditional Archery because gun hunting was to easy, or because the technical aspect of compounds became to much to deal with and became more like shooting a rifle than a bow. Within that group of folks, some are still looking for their first harvest while others have killed more critters than blue tongue with just their "Indian Sticks".
I'd venture to say in a years time, I shoot as many arrows as most people shoot in several years. I've been fortunate to be able to accomplish more with my longbow than I could have ever imagined and would put my shooting up against most compound shooters I know. I don't say that boasting at all, I say that because I put my time and effort in behind a talent I have I truly feel is God given that I was just lucky enough to be able to find out I had.
As said in my original post, I've replayed the shot i had at him last year in my head a million times over, and I honestly wouldn't change a thing I did or the type of weapon I chose to shoot at him with. I've had deer duck just like he did when I used to hunt only with compounds, so saying a different weapon would have made a difference is irrelevant. It just wasn't his time to go, and the good Lord above didn't want me to have him last year, so we'll play cat and mouse again this year and hopefully, the end result will be in my favor this time around!


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[quote=MedicineMan7;12646765]Thanks all. It was a relief to see his face show up on camera.





I'll be sure and let you know when it goes down! I'll let you come skin for me and sit back and relax!




Deal, but that's the payment for permission to hunt the area when ever right?

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Old 08-13-2017, 05:39 PM   #43
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Good luck Shiloh! I hope you get another crack at him!

Johnny, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed the other day! I'm sitting here just trying to imagine what could have prompted you to type what you did?????

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Old 08-13-2017, 07:22 PM   #44
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Good response Shiloh!! Can't wait till you post a ldp this season with him and your Indian stick!!
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:57 AM   #45
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Man! he did blow up from last year!! Cant wait to see the LDP's
And, some people amaze me on this "BOW" hunting forum. Their brain must have fallen out at some point.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:06 AM   #46
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Dang what a monster! Good luck this year. Hope to see some pics of him on the ground. What an entertaining read this thread turned out to be!
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:23 AM   #47
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That was a first class response to a totally uncalled for comment. Well done MM and I hope you get a crack at that buck this year.

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Old 08-14-2017, 06:10 PM   #48
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That's a deer that can make anyone envious! Good luck on him this season, and well said to that hater earlier!
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:49 PM   #49
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Been 2 days. Will comment tomorrow on your replies. It really boils down to modern deer and modern equipment verses 1500's gear. This deer limped around for 4ish months and may still have a broad head lodged in its shoulder. This blows on a bunch of levels.
Reminds me of a member on my lease that told me of a member shooting deer with a 9mm carbine. Most of the critters he shot ran away.
No excuses - use modern equipment on modern deer.................
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Probably best if you reconsider responding to comments. It's obvious you aren't going to change any minds here and your attempts to belittle and bully the members of this forum are unwelcome.

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