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Old 02-22-2018, 11:39 AM   #1
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Default Rice bran v. Protein as attractant

We feed corn and will start feeding cottonseed full time. But I want to add something else to my feed pens as a pure attractant. Thinking about a timed protein trough feeder (A.S., Lamco, HB) or the Fortress timed rice bran feeder.

Which would you chooses as the better attractant in South Texas?

Rice Bran or Protein
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:48 AM   #2
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For pure attractant, rice bran gets my vote.
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:51 AM   #3
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I highly recommend feeding protein out of a Lamco timed protein feeder. We added them to our pens this past year, so we could feed protein during season as an attractant. I stopped free choice during season, to not encourage feeding at night. It didn’t take long for the deer to get used to the trough feeder. If you go that route, I would recommend setting your timer relatively low until they get used to it.





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Old 02-24-2018, 03:44 PM   #4
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I have no experience with rice bran in South Texas. But protein will definitely bring deer into your area. Free choice and as much as you can afford to feed.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:07 PM   #5
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I would think it would be next to impossible to feed rice bran out of a timed feeder. If you can prove me wrong, i would love to see how you are doing it.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:11 PM   #6
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I would think it would be next to impossible to feed rice bran out of a timed feeder. If you can prove me wrong, i would love to see how you are doing it.
I believe the only way to do so right now is with those fortress feeders. I just dump it on the ground while hunting.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:30 PM   #7
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I would think it would be next to impossible to feed rice bran out of a timed feeder. If you can prove me wrong, i would love to see how you are doing it.
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I believe the only way to do so right now is with those fortress feeders. I just dump it on the ground while hunting.
Yessir....they are pricey that’s for sure!

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Old 02-25-2018, 08:06 AM   #8
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:11 PM   #9
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Have you tried rice bran yet? I'd try dumping it on the ground first before buying an expensive feeder. I tried it in Llano this season and the deer didn't touch it. I tried several flavors readily available in La. Must be something lacking in the pineywoods, cause they devour a 50 lbs. sack in 2 days up here in NE La. Check into the bran bag as an option to a feeder.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:46 AM   #10
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They love Rice Bran in East Texas. The deer in my area will clean up 50 lbs in less than a week.
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Have you tried rice bran yet? I'd try dumping it on the ground first before buying an expensive feeder. I tried it in Llano this season and the deer didn't touch it. I tried several flavors readily available in La. Must be something lacking in the pineywoods, cause they devour a 50 lbs. sack in 2 days up here in NE La. Check into the bran bag as an option to a feeder.
Man, the Llano deer squatting on my land love rice bran. I have never seen flavored bulk bran, but they fight each other over the plain stuff I put out.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:57 PM   #13
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You guys using the timed protein feeders, how much do you try to feed per time it goes off?
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Old 04-02-2018, 01:19 PM   #14
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the deer on my place in Webb county go straight to rice bran. I put out 100lbs at a time in a barrel cut in half long ways. Last 2-3 weeks.
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Old 04-05-2018, 02:47 PM   #15
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:13 PM   #16
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Where can you get rice bran? We have farms in collin and wise counties.
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:32 AM   #17
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Where can you get rice bran? We have farms in collin and wise counties.
try collin county feed. i get it at mitchells in royse city, its about $9 a bag. tractor supply has something called rice bran but it most be something a little different because its like $30-40 a bag.

ive seen guys on here saying they get flavored rice bran somewhere around canton or athens i think, peanut and persimmon flavored.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:34 AM   #18
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try collin county feed. i get it at mitchells in royse city, its about $9 a bag. tractor supply has something called rice bran but it most be something a little different because its like $30-40 a bag.

ive seen guys on here saying they get flavored rice bran somewhere around canton or athens i think, peanut and persimmon flavored.
The last time I bought rice bran at Collin County Feed it was like $13 or so a bag. I think they went up in price cause I remember buying it for like $9-$10 a bag at first then he realized lots of hunters were looking for it.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:57 AM   #19
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Atwood’s has it for $6 a bag.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:23 PM   #20
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try collin county feed. i get it at mitchells in royse city, its about $9 a bag. tractor supply has something called rice bran but it most be something a little different because its like $30-40 a bag.

ive seen guys on here saying they get flavored rice bran somewhere around canton or athens i think, peanut and persimmon flavored.
The expensive stuff is stabilized rice bran, I think they reduce the fat. Its for horse feed.
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:51 PM   #21
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I would think it would be next to impossible to feed rice bran out of a timed feeder. If you can prove me wrong, i would love to see how you are doing it.
Yes sir it can be done..but your right its not easy.

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Yessir....they are pricey that’s for sure!



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I'm working on making a smaller more affordable version. However, like the original its trial an error..what you think will work never does the first try with Rice Bran. I'm getting closer though!
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For pure attractant, rice bran gets my vote.
x2!

Hands down and it isnt even close
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Hands down and it isnt even close
Yíall need to quit talking about his stuff. Iím tellin ya...it doesnít work.
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Y’all need to quit talking about his stuff. I’m tellin ya...it doesn’t work.
What doesn't work?
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Rice bran and cottonseed. Everyone needs to stop using it so it's not so hard to find. It doesn't work. Deer hate it. Y'all go back to vanilla and pea gravel
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:27 PM   #26
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Rice bran and cottonseed. Everyone needs to stop using it so it's not so hard to find. It doesn't work. Deer hate it. Y'all go back to vanilla and pea gravel
Exactly....nothing to see here. Move along now.
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Exactly....nothing to see here. Move along now.
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following some very nice deer . will have to pen feeders after this season to make it work . again WOW on some of the deer . Can hope they will grow that large in our area
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Love those rice bran feeders, anything more on the smaller more economical model?


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Love those rice bran feeders, anything more on the smaller more economical model?
Several plans...just have to find time to build and test. I recently started a new real job and have been covered up the last 4 weeks.

Serious question since there is no other. What would be a preferred size?

I built the original for me as I'm 5 hours from the ranch and I wanted at least 1 month per feeding @ 10 lbs per day.
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Personally, something that could attach to a drum I think would sell very well.


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Several plans...just have to find time to build and test. I recently started a new real job and have been covered up the last 4 weeks.

Serious question since there is no other. What would be a preferred size?

I built the original for me as I'm 5 hours from the ranch and I wanted at least 1 month per feeding @ 10 lbs per day.
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And reduce cost tremendously because everyone can find a metal drum for cheap
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:42 AM   #36
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Never have used rice bran, but we started free choice protein 3 years ago and have seen a substantial uptick in numbers and quality. Amazing what that stuff will do to the health of your herd if you also support it with plenty of water. Takes a few years but definitely worth it.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:49 AM   #37
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You can build your own using a timed “hammer unit”. Not much to it really.
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And reduce cost tremendously because everyone can find a metal drum for cheap
^^^this^^^
Something where you could cut out the bottom of a barrel or other large hopper and attach a reducred cone-shaped apparatus to said hopper. Then said apparatus has an ďaugerĒ type mechanism that agitates the RB allowing it to fall.
Thatís what I envision at least.......I just ainít near smart enough to do it
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Personally, something that could attach to a drum I think would sell very well.
Agreed...however I've built one out of a 55 Gallon drum..it doesn't work well.

I considered making a feeding system for a barrel but, not everyone has access to the tools or has the ability to cut the bottom off a barrel and put this together.

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These feeders are very specific and labor intensive to make. Once you add up all the labor and material for a feeder this size you will realize I'm not getting rich. The first 2 proto types cost me $980.00 just for the hopper - and that was a "buddy" deal.

They are currently to big to run in a break so each side has to be cut out CNC and each seam welded.

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LOL! Good luck with that. I've built 10
different feeders and only one design really works well. Of the one design that works i have several I use and they have been running flawlessly for 3 yrs. I dont want a feeder that "sorta works"

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^^^this^^^
Something where you could cut out the bottom of a barrel or other large hopper and attach a reducred cone-shaped apparatus to said hopper. Then said apparatus has an ďaugerĒ type mechanism that agitates the RB allowing it to fall.
Thatís what I envision at least.......I just ainít near smart enough to do it
See above..not everyone has the ability to cut a barrel..and or the ability to put one together. My name is on this. If someone leaves one pin hole for water to get in..then it becomes a black eye for me.

Any type of cylinder, cone, ruducer does not work. Rice Bran as you know is a powder. Powder feeds will pack and bridge causing it not to fall.

I built an Auger style and it worked awesome for 3-4 feedings until the powder packed which then stops the Auger with any affordable motor.
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Bruce how much are these?
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:45 AM   #41
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Agreed...however I've built one out of a 55 Gallon drum..it doesn't work well.

I considered making a feeding system for a barrel but, not everyone has access to the tools or has the ability to cut the bottom off a barrel and put this together.



These feeders are very specific and labor intensive to make. Once you add up all the labor and material for a feeder this size you will realize I'm not getting rich. The first 2 proto types cost me $980.00 just for the hopper - and that was a "buddy" deal.

They are currently to big to run in a break so each side has to be cut out CNC and each seam welded.



LOL! Good luck with that. I've built 10
different feeders and only one design really works well. Of the one design that works i have several I use and they have been running flawlessly for 3 yrs. I dont want a feeder that "sorta works"



See above..not everyone has the ability to cut a barrel..and or the ability to put one together. My name is on this. If someone leaves one pin hole for water to get in..then it becomes a black eye for me.

Any type of cylinder, cone, ruducer does not work. Rice Bran as you know is a powder. Powder feeds will pack and bridge causing it not to fall.

I built an Auger style and it worked awesome for 3-4 feedings until the powder packed which then stops the Auger with any affordable motor.

I am actually working on this now, but affordable timed protein is first. But the rice bran will work. Be happy to collaborate when I am completed with testing and such. But my affordable timed protein feeder is first.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:51 AM   #42
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Piece of advice...if you're trying rice bran in a new area that you are already feeding corn, one put it out in piles and two put a decent amount of corn on top of it. What I've noticed is that the tremendously strong sweet smell of rice bran makes the deer nervous at first but then once they notice the corn in there and nibble on it then they are hooked...corn is like the gateway drug to rice bran in my trial areas.
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Piece of advice...if you're trying rice bran in a new area that you are already feeding corn, one put it out in piles and two put a decent amount of corn on top of it. What I've noticed is that the tremendously strong sweet smell of rice bran makes the deer nervous at first but then once they notice the corn in there and nibble on it then they are hooked...corn is like the gateway drug to rice bran in my trial areas.
I agree! I wish I could find a rice bran feeder that wouldnt break the bank
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:32 AM   #44
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Not to take anything away from the Fortress Feeder method, but you can use Rice Bran pellets and the deer do eat it as well as the Rice Bran meal. I currently have a "Hammer Unit" on a Boss Buck feeder feeding Rice Bran pellets, and the deer tear it up. The more slope and slicker the feeder material the better the flow. The boss buck set up works flawlessly with "The Hammer Unit" and Rice Bran pellets. I get Rice Bran Pellets from Del Rio Feed, or Hoffpauir Feed in Lampasas for $8.50 to $8.75 per 50lb bag. Some people will argue that the deer prefer Meal over Pellets, but I have watched deer in my area eating the meal I have in a bucket in my feed pen, and as soon as the Timer opens on the pellets they will leave the meal and walk over and start eating the pellets. I have also used a 55 Gallon drum with a steep funnel and it also works well with the Pellets and "Hammer Unit". Just another option if you want to feed a Rice Bran Pellet, instead of Meal, on a "timed and amount method".
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Hi Brandon the feeder is $800.00
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[QUOTE=goldtip5575;13567368]Not to take anything away from the Fortress Feeder method, but you can use Rice Bran pellets and the deer do eat it as well as the Rice Bran meal. I currently have a "Hammer Unit" on a Boss Buck feeder feeding Rice Bran pellets, and the deer tear it up. The more slope and slicker the feeder material the better the flow. The boss buck set up works flawlessly with "The Hammer Unit" and Rice Bran pellets. I get Rice Bran Pellets from Del Rio Feed, or Hoffpauir Feed in Lampasas for $8.50 to $8.75 per 50lb bag. Some people will argue that the deer prefer Meal over Pellets, but I have watched deer in my area eating the meal I have in a bucket in my feed pen, and as soon as the Timer opens on the pellets they will leave the meal and walk over and start eating the pellets. I have also used a 55 Gallon drum with a steep funnel and it also works well with the Pellets and "Hammer Unit". Just another option if you want to feed a Rice Bran Pellet, instead of Meal, on a "timed and amount ]

If you have no other option Rice Bran pellets are more attractive than regular protein. But, I have done side by side test in open buckets deer prefer the meal or powder.

In all seriousness I have been working on this for years..there have been many failed attempts. Mine and others..but there is a reason why others failed or gave up. Its not as simple as you may think.

Rice Bran Meal is one helluva an attractant...best I have found, its as simple as that. Try it..pour some on the ground, put it in a bucket something just get some out there.

However if you want to feed the meal or powder and have the deer conditioned to eat it when you are there. There is only one

When I get a smaller version I will let everyone know.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:44 PM   #47
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Hi Brandon the feeder is $800.00
Hell thats not that bad. From the sound of it I was thing $1200-$1400 range.
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I agree! I wish I could find a rice bran feeder that wouldnt break the bank
The Rice Bran Feeder is $800.00, when you say break the bank - I dont get it. Your going to spend that on a regular protein feeder if it holds any volume.

Rice Bran is an attractant. The key is to keep some out there. I did a test last year with an older model that did not flow as well as the new ones just to see how far I could stretch a single filling of a feeder.

I filled the feeder up Jan 1 and let it open and close twice a day. The trough was just lightly dusted but the deer could eat out of the hopper with it open.

That feeder ran dry in December. The deer still fed every day..they just didnt get much. If they werent early they still licked the trough.

12 months on one filling, the feed did not spoil as it was kept dry. The sun actually "baked" the powder in the feeder.

Before I was spending $50-$60 a week filling buckets with rice bran, just to try and get it to stretch weekend to weekend.

If not 500 lbs...what would you guys like to see.
100 lbs, 200lbs 300lbs?
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:57 PM   #49
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The Rice Bran Feeder is $800.00, when you say break the bank - I dont get it. Your going to spend that on a regular protein feeder if it holds any volume.

Rice Bran is an attractant. The key is to keep some out there. I did a test last year with an older model that did not flow as well as the new ones just to see how far I could stretch a single filling of a feeder.

I filled the feeder up Jan 1 and let it open and close twice a day. The trough was just lightly dusted but the deer could eat out of the hopper with it open.

That feeder ran dry in December. The deer still fed every day..they just didnt get much. If they werent early they still licked the trough.

12 months on one filling, the feed did not spoil as it was kept dry. The sun actually "baked" the powder in the feeder.

Before I was spending $50-$60 a week filling buckets with rice bran, just to try and get it to stretch weekend to weekend.

If not 500 lbs...what would you guys like to see.
100 lbs, 200lbs 300lbs?
WOW...12 months is impressive
Capacity is still an issue for me because I’m 6.5 to 7 hours away from my lease. 300# capacity would be the minimum IMO.
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I want the 500lb rice bran feeder. I just want it for $600
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