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    bad year for mexican gray wolves

    Many of us have eyes on the Gray wolves wreaking havoc in the northern part of the United States; meanwhile, the Mexican gray wolf is having it’s most deadly year ever in the Southwest.

    In the first four months of 2019, there have been 88 cases of wolf-related livestock depredation. Three dozen of these cases were in April alone. To put that in perspective, there were “only” 100 cases of depredation in all of 2018.

    This should come as no surprise, though. The Mexican gray wolf is listed as endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act. Earlier this year, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Arizona Game and Fish announced they were “cautiously optimistic” that the wolf population would continue to grow and thrive. The population is at it’s highest level since reintroduction efforts began. Officials have seen a steady 12% increase over the past 10 years bringing the current population to at least 131.

    This isn’t enough for pro-wolf groups though. Despite the crippling effects the introduction has on ranchers, groups like Defenders of Wildlife only want non-lethal forms of hazing to be used. These groups and the USFWS are helping some ranchers across the southwest. Their help includes “simple” ideas like quickly removing carcasses from fields and moving cows frequently to keep wolves away.

    Unlike the wolves in the north, president Trump’s plan to delist wolves will not affect the Mexican gray wolves. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service did a study earlier this year which found Mexican gray wolves were a different subspecies from Gray wolves. This means they will remain protected for the foreseeable future.

    These same groups also say that the wolves are highly managed. They are brought back when they stray out of their boundaries or prey on livestock. It is hard to believe that such “highly managed” animals would be allowed to kill so prolifically.

    Should Mexican gray wolves be delisted along with Gray wolves?

    #2
    yep sure . something else to hunt ! I`m all for it.

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      #3
      Sounds like there will be some ranchers giving the wolves a dirt nap soon.

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        #4
        Originally posted by waterdog View Post
        Should Mexican gray wolves be delisted along with Gray wolves?
        No, they should not be delisted. They were found to be different than the wolves we have back in Wisconsin, and are worthy of our best efforts to keep them on the land they are native to.

        However, ranchers and others should be allowed to shoot if a wolf poses a threat, and should be compensated fairly for any maimed or killed livestock.

        One of the recent meat eaters has a wolf biologist on. Good info on that podcast.

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          #5
          Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
          No, they should not be delisted. They were found to be different than the wolves we have back in Wisconsin, and are worthy of our best efforts to keep them on the land they are native to.

          However, ranchers and others should be allowed to shoot if a wolf poses a threat, and should be compensated fairly for any maimed or killed livestock.

          One of the recent meat eaters has a wolf biologist on. Good info on that podcast.
          Compensated by who?
          The wolf?
          The environmentalists keeping them listed and allowing their population to run out of control?
          The wolfs namesake country for allowing them to roam across the border?

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            #6
            Originally posted by systemnt View Post
            Compensated by who?
            The wolf?
            The environmentalists keeping them listed and allowing their population to run out of control?
            The wolfs namesake country for allowing them to roam across the border?
            I believe the wolf should pay them a fair price for the beef, yes.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BitBackShot View Post
              I believe the wolf should pay them a fair price for the beef, yes.
              Thats racist.

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                #8
                Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                Compensated by who?
                The wolf?
                The environmentalists keeping them listed and allowing their population to run out of control?
                The wolfs namesake country for allowing them to roam across the border?
                THIS ^

                I think the ranchers should be compensated but let the money come from those who want the wolves left alone and not kept in check. No reason our tax money should be used for this.

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                  #9
                  Do the ranchers in Texas get checks for coyote and hog damage?

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                    #10
                    Cost of doing business IMO. Driving a species to extinction is never the right thing to do.

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                      #11
                      I just listened to a great podcast on this very thing with Randy Newberg and the AZ state biologist.

                      This reintroduction is being run differently than the Yellowstone fiasco.

                      I think it'll work out just fine for the wolves and the ranchers.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by kcnatural View Post
                        Do the ranchers in Texas get checks for coyote and hog damage?
                        Not a good example. You can shoot all the coyotes and hogs you want. I'm pretty sure the ranchers would support this idea for the wolves.

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                          #13
                          [ATTACH]958666[/ATTACH]

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                            #14
                            Shoot the wolves and neuter their advocates. Pretty soon the situation will work itself out.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                              Compensated by who?
                              The wolf?
                              The environmentalists keeping them listed and allowing their population to run out of control?
                              The wolfs namesake country for allowing them to roam across the border?
                              US Fish and Wildlife Service. The only agency OP posted about.

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