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Old 03-21-2013, 12:51 AM   #201
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Good stuff! Thanks for the demonstration!
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:37 AM   #202
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I pulled out #1 and put number 2 in the soak. The only thing I noticed is it looks like on #1 the high part of the skull between the base of the horns may not have got enough peroxide on it but I am going to let it dry and check it. What is the trick to getting the skull completely covered with peroxide without getting the antlers in the peroxide. i used some terry strips saturated and thought it would work.

I used the liquid peroxide from Sally's but I did not do the paste method. Any suggestions?
I think the paste method may help out a bit, I haven't tried it yet. I have one that I'm waiting to bleach myself with the liquid peroxide. This thread is getting me motivated to get started on it. I've had the skull for a little over a year now
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:16 AM   #203
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Interesting. Fermenting Deer Skulls. I boiled mine this year. When I did, I removed alot of the cartilage in the nasal cavaty when scraping/picking. I don't mind those not being there in the final product. There are like a billion little holes and stuff that hold tissue in these things. (like for instance a 3" long tube just above the teeth, etc.) I'm not sure that I'd feel comfortable with all of those having been reached within just a few weeks of letting it sit like this. At least with beatles you know nothing is there when they stop eating....

Do you guys/gals at least do a smell test? After I am done boiling and degreasing, I just set it out and wait to see if it starts to smell and then try to find any missing peices of tissue before finally mounting to a plaque. One my first one, I thought I was done, it looked great, I set it out and about 2 days later I could get a whiff of something off, and sure enough, I found a bit of tissue in a channel just above the teeth.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:21 PM   #204
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Here is #1 on a 24 hour soak in peroxide. I think it turned out pretty good for my first one.

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I have #2 in the peroxide soak now
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:25 AM   #205
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Sweet!

Im gonna do the peroxide paste from sally's... My mom was headed there there other day and picked it up for me.
So i dodged the Nancy stare.

Im waiting on my black buck to finish before i do both the bb and wt... The wt is currently on my gun bench inside and doesn't stink at all... My pregnant wife would sure tell me about it if it was.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:13 AM   #206
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Sweet!

Im gonna do the peroxide paste from sally's... My mom was headed there there other day and picked it up for me.
So i dodged the Nancy stare.

Im waiting on my black buck to finish before i do both the bb and wt... The wt is currently on my gun bench inside and doesn't stink at all... My pregnant wife would sure tell me about it if it was.
How's that BB coming along?
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Here is #1 on a 24 hour soak in peroxide. I think it turned out pretty good for my first one.

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I have #2 in the peroxide soak now
Came out looking great!!! Good job
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Here is number 2

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This one was the easier of the two because I had added the aquarium heater at this point. It was ready pretty quickly. I am pleased with final product

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Old 03-30-2013, 03:12 PM   #209
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has anyone done this process with a ram or aoudad?
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:42 PM   #210
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How's that BB coming along?
Is in the container at the house.... water and rid x mixture with 2 aquarium heaters and a heat lamp.

I checked it before i headed out yesterday. Had a little bit of meat on it still. The hide and bottom jaw have come off. Just some fleshy stuff around the mouth left.... And the horns have yet to budge.

I may be throwing it in the trash bag soon to see if i can get the horns to move... I think the water is swelling the bone abit not allowing for the horns to come off... I put on a pair of gloves and gave her the ole college try friday... But no movement. Forgot how yummy it smelt till it was in my hands.

Any suggestions?
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Is in the container at the house.... water and rid x mixture with 2 aquarium heaters and a heat lamp.

I checked it before i headed out yesterday. Had a little bit of meat on it still. The hide and bottom jaw have come off. Just some fleshy stuff around the mouth left.... And the horns have yet to budge.

I may be throwing it in the trash bag soon to see if i can get the horns to move... I think the water is swelling the bone abit not allowing for the horns to come off... I put on a pair of gloves and gave her the ole college try friday... But no movement. Forgot how yummy it smelt till it was in my hands.

Any suggestions?
No help here but can't wait to see him finished

Yes I bet the bones are more swollen with moisture content. I wonder if once it dries it will come out
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Here is number 2

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This one was the easier of the two because I had added the aquarium heater at this point. It was ready pretty quickly. I am pleased with final product
That looks great! Hopefully once i get this BB all figured out mine will be that white and purty.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:41 AM   #213
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:30 PM   #214
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Most of the meat is off the bone now... but I still cant get the horns to budge... maybe a 1/4" but not off.

I tried when it was all wet... Then I tried after it was dried... NADA

Anymore advice? gotta get these things off so I can move forward with it.

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Old 05-17-2013, 05:09 PM   #215
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Most of the meat is off the bone now... but I still cant get the horns to budge... maybe a 1/4" but not off.

I tried when it was all wet... Then I tried after it was dried... NADA

Anymore advice? gotta get these things off so I can move forward with it.

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Why u taking the horns off?
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:14 PM   #216
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Why u taking the horns off?
If you don't remove the horns and clean the I side it will get pretty ripe.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:15 PM   #217
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If you don't remove the horns and clean the I side it will get pretty ripe.
Inside of the horns? I've never heard that before. Is this just for BB?
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Inside of the horns? I've never heard that before. Is this just for BB?
Black buck, sheep, etc...
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:30 PM   #219
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I think this is pretty much all animals with horns and not antlers. Right?
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #220
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that
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Well some time has passed so I will admit to being a hothead.

After getting a bunch of help and advice on the blackbuck euro from great TBH'ers I failed miserably. I tried everything and finally got one horn off. It took some excessive force and a pair of channel locks... But it did come off.

The other wouldn't budge... I left it out in the sun to dry, put it in a black bag, tried to oil it up... Nothing was working... I took a hacksaw blade to the base I thought was catching a tad... Still nada. This went on for weeks. Seriously... Weeks.

I finally went to my last resort.... Rubber mallet to free it up... A few taps nada, harder, nada, harder and crack... ****it I broke the nose. It was probably fixable with some diligent gluing... But the horn was still stuck... I had other projects piling up because I got consumed with this black buck.... And I lost it.. Knowing I had failed... Knowing I tried so hard, and spent this much time with it... With each thought I grew madder.

I started to think of all the other projects that were setting back burner waiting for me to finish this one... I thought well it's either coming off or I'm destroying it. As my patience had worn out. A few more pretty good hits with the mallet and the nose came all the way off. Pedestal around the horn was cracking... I lost it.

Screw it. I walk to the nearest tree hold the one remaining, unmovable, god glued on horn, reached back and gave her one good home run swing into the tree... Parts everywhere... I'm talking lil pieces...

I look in the horn I'm still holding and find the pedestal broke off 1" in and the bone is still in it... Still didn't freaking budge!!! Lol. Oh well. Next time I will know to leave that already dead black buck on the ground and just snap a pic for memory sake.

Lol. Maybe someday I will actually get to shoot an exotic and when that day comes I'm taking it to bro sigs in midland and getting an impressive shoulder mount!!!

Thanks for all the help guys! Sorry I don't have success pics! I will bleach my deer skull (a project the bb was holding up) soon and post it up here.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #222
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Well some time has passed so I will admit to being a hothead.

After getting a bunch of help and advice on the blackbuck euro from great TBH'ers I failed miserably. I tried everything and finally got one horn off. It took some excessive force and a pair of channel locks... But it did come off.

The other wouldn't budge... I left it out in the sun to dry, put it in a black bag, tried to oil it up... Nothing was working... I took a hacksaw blade to the base I thought was catching a tad... Still nada. This went on for weeks. Seriously... Weeks.

I finally went to my last resort.... Rubber mallet to free it up... A few taps nada, harder, nada, harder and crack... ****it I broke the nose. It was probably fixable with some diligent gluing... But the horn was still stuck... I had other projects piling up because I got consumed with this black buck.... And I lost it.. Knowing I had failed... Knowing I tried so hard, and spent this much time with it... With each thought I grew madder.

I started to think of all the other projects that were setting back burner waiting for me to finish this one... I thought well it's either coming off or I'm destroying it. As my patience had worn out. A few more pretty good hits with the mallet and the nose came all the way off. Pedestal around the horn was cracking... I lost it.

Screw it. I walk to the nearest tree hold the one remaining, unmovable, god glued on horn, reached back and gave her one good home run swing into the tree... Parts everywhere... I'm talking lil pieces...

I look in the horn I'm still holding and find the pedestal broke off 1" in and the bone is still in it... Still didn't freaking budge!!! Lol. Oh well. Next time I will know to leave that already dead black buck on the ground and just snap a pic for memory sake.

Lol. Maybe someday I will actually get to shoot an exotic and when that day comes I'm taking it to bro sigs in midland and getting an impressive shoulder mount!!!

Thanks for all the help guys! Sorry I don't have success pics! I will bleach my deer skull (a project the bb was holding up) soon and post it up here.
Sorry it ended that way but you educated me and everyone else on them. I had no idea you had to go through all that! We all feel your frustration. I will stick to WT and axis or sikas. You gave it a great try but would like to know how a professional would have done differently. Is this common with a BB? How on earth would you avoid it?
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:38 AM   #223
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Wow I've always soaked them in water for a few days and just gave em a good twist and they have always just broke free. Some harder than others but never had one not come off.
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I did the same steps as Ca$ey, soaked the skull in water, and few days later, you can get the horns off. The disadvantage is that the horns are stink. Took me more time and efforts to get rid of that smell. But you can still smell it from very close. Someone knows how to clean the horns after they come off?

Here is how it looks like (a small blackbuck from one friend's ranch).
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I am very glad to find this thread. Got some new ideas to improve my method. I didn't use Rid-x before, just pure water. So it takes various length of time to complete, may depend on the temperature I guess. Next time, I will add some rid-x, hope it will speed up the process.

I would add two more steps to this procedure (I didn't read every past replies, so excuse me if they are redundant).

A) I would use all-purpose glue to bind loosen teeth and/or bones. All-purpose glue will be invisible after dry.
B) After the mount is full dry, I would pray a light coat by dull or semi-glossy clear finish. This will give a protection and easy to clean.

I accidentally picked this skull from a wild place, and made my first Euro mount.
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I did the same steps as Ca$ey, soaked the skull in water, and few days later, you can get the horns off. The disadvantage is that the horns are stink. Took me more time and efforts to get rid of that smell. But you can still smell it from very close. Someone knows how to clean the horns after they come off?

Here is how it looks like (a small blackbuck from one friend's ranch).
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I am very glad to find this thread. Got some new ideas to improve my method. I didn't use Rid-x before, just pure water. So it takes various length of time to complete, may depend on the temperature I guess. Next time, I will add some rid-x, hope it will speed up the process.

I would add two more steps to this procedure (I didn't read every past replies, so excuse me if they are redundant).

A) I would use all-purpose glue to bind loosen teeth and/or bones. All-purpose glue will be invisible after dry.
B) After the mount is full dry, I would pray a light coat by dull or semi-glossy clear finish. This will give a protection and easy to clean.

I accidentally picked this skull from a wild place, and made my first Euro mount.
You spray just the skull or skull & antlers???
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You spray just the skull or skull & antlers???
Just the skull.

But, I did spray the horns of that blackbuck to make it a little bit shiny

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Just the skull.

But, I did spray the horns of that blackbuck to make it a little bit shiny


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Old 06-16-2013, 11:27 PM   #230
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:36 PM   #231
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Ok since the BB is a gonner I started the whitening process with the mixture of sallys beauty supply products. It made a great paste.

Then i saran wrapped it. And plan on waiting 24 hours.

Only question... Do i need to set it in the, sun?
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I think the H2O2 should be enough without the sun. I could be wrong.......
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Sweet. I think it looks good.

I think I may try to darken up the horns a bit tomorrow... Seems they got a little washed out on me.
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Sweet. I think it looks good.

I think I may try to darken up the horns a bit tomorrow... Seems they got a little washed out on me.
So did you set it out in the sun or just the H2O2?
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:11 PM   #235
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Finished products #1 and #2

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I just have the axis buck now to finish here shortly
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:18 PM   #236
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Goin to do this.Tthanks
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:20 AM   #237
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Thanks for bringing this to the top. I've had a skull soaking in just water for the last month and now it a frozen block of nastiness! Supposed to be 12 degrees at sunup here at sunup!

After it gets above freezing outside I'm buying an aquarium heater and some RidX to finish it off.
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Old 01-11-2014, 02:23 PM   #238
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Just put the sally beauty supply peroxide paste on a turkey skull... Anybody know how long to leave it on a small animal? The same 24 hours?
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Just found this thread. Shot an 8 point at the end of November, cut the head off and hung it up hoping to do something with it. I remembered 2 weeks later and stuck it in a bucket of water. It's been there 2 weeks. After reading this thread, I stole some rid-ex from under the sink and put some in the bucket. I will check on it in a few weeks. At least haven't hurt anything by being neglectful.
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:36 PM   #240
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All look good
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:30 PM   #241
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Man this is an awesome thread learned a lot. I have several skulls I need to do but haven't had to time to boil
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:15 PM   #242
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I will try water maceration next time. Boiling method is good because it eliminates any smells. Maceration without water stinks up your backyard and attracts all kinds of critters.

Will the Satin Polyurethane work? I am having a hard time finding a no gloss (flat) Polyurethane.

Which polyurethane works best for ya'll without bone discoloration?
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I just threw a fox skull in the stew today.

We will see how it goes. I boiled a badger skull the other day to save time... and was unimpressed.
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I finished another today

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Guys I checked my skull that's been in water and rid -x for little over a month. Most if it is clean except some of the brain stuff in the skull and some stuff in the eye sockets. Should I remove and pick/ cut this stuff out or let it sit in water a week more?

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Hello. Anyone there. Can u hear me now?
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No idea Man. I put an 8 point in Ridex around the middle of January (hide and all) and an axis just over 4 weeks ago. I put them in buckets inside black trash bags but it can still smell them every time I go to the barn . I'm scared to open the bags and check on them !
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:44 AM   #248
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No idea Man. I put an 8 point in Ridex around the middle of January (hide and all) and an axis just over 4 weeks ago. I put them in buckets inside black trash bags but it can still smell them every time I go to the barn . I'm scared to open the bags and check on them !
I've always removed the hide, eyes, brain, and as much meat as possible and the smell is unbearable. I can't even imagine what it must smell like with the hide and everything else rotting away.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:49 PM   #249
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I took skull out of bucket today and removed a few pieces of membrane , rinsed it and putting peroxide bleach tomorrow. Hope it comes out as nice as y'all. Awesome thread . Thanks for posting
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I took skull out of bucket today and removed a few pieces of membrane , rinsed it and putting peroxide bleach tomorrow. Hope it comes out as nice as y'all. Awesome thread . Thanks for posting
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