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Old 10-31-2012, 05:54 PM   #51
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I'm going to have to try this method. Does it matter if it's the dry Rid-x or the Liquid rid-X ?
I use dry, but it shouldn't matter it's the same bacteria in either one. You don't have to use rid-x at all, but it does speed up the process.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:08 AM   #52
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Some of you had asked about whitening. Go to a sally's beauty supply and pick up some Volume 40 cream and whitening powder. The powder should come with a little cup inside. Mix one cup and some cream to a milk shake consistency. Smells like ammonia. Liberally coat your skull and let sit over night. ( Don't get any on the antlers)
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:54 PM   #53
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I just finished boiling and cleaning off my son's deer head, but I have a boar head that I may try this method with. It still has some dried hide/hair on it, and I'm not too keen on putting that in my stock pot!
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I have a deer, 2 hogs, a javelina, and an alligator all macerating as I type. They've only been going for a couple days, and I'm already second guessing myself due to the smell. I do know that I'm wearing my full face respirator when it comes time to open the containers.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:27 PM   #56
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This looks like a good method. I boiled a few last year. I have the stuff to do it, plus I have a power washer, so I never did any picking or scraping. HOWEVER, I didn't take too kindly to boiled brain matter splashing back all over my chest and face when I pointed the nozzle way up in there.
Anyhow, do you still have to skin everything and get the lower jaw removed 1st before you drop it in the bucket? It seemed like that was the hardest, most labor-some part of the whole process.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:39 PM   #57
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This looks like a good method. I boiled a few last year. I have the stuff to do it, plus I have a power washer, so I never did any picking or scraping. HOWEVER, I didn't take too kindly to boiled brain matter splashing back all over my chest and face when I pointed the nozzle way up in there.
Anyhow, do you still have to skin everything and get the lower jaw removed 1st before you drop it in the bucket? It seemed like that was the hardest, most labor-some part of the whole process.
You can throw the head in whole if that's the way you want to do it, but it's going to take a lot longer for the bacteria to break everything down before you have a good clean skull, probably a couple of months in the water.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:21 PM   #58
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I do several dozen each year like this. Regarding the smell, I worked my first job out of A&M as a shift manager at a chicken kill plant. My maseration process makes others gag and even throw up. Luckily for me, it's a walk in the park compared to that $24k/year Pilgrim's Pride hell hole in Deep Ellum.

When we lived in the city, my neighbors absolutely dreaded a NE wind!
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I do several dozen each year like this. Regarding the smell, I worked my first job out of A&M as a shift manager at a chicken kill plant. My maseration process makes others gag and even throw up. Luckily for me, it's a walk in the park compared to that $24k/year Pilgrim's Pride hell hole in Deep Ellum.

When we lived in the city, my neighbors absolutely dreaded a NE wind!
What do you use to degrease and Whiten? I'm always looking to learn something new from someone that knows more than my self.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:58 AM   #61
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What do you use to degrease and Whiten? I'm always looking to learn something new from someone that knows more than my self.
If I did it only as a hobby (rather than a business) I'd be happy to share on a public forum. As it stands, you'd have to catch me over a beer and in a generous mood to share secrets. There is a very well known business (you ALL know it) whose owners came to my shop one time under the guise of wanting me to make them mesquite furniture. They were blown away by the skulls and we spent an hour talking about the process. Never heard another word about their "furniture order", but I did hear from a friend of a friend that they are now doing their own skulls.

What I find interesting is that most taxidermists learn their processes from another taxidermist. When I started doing skulls, I went to a museum currator and picked up a method I've never seen on a hunting or taxidermist forum.

Seems soaking for several weeks with Dawn works ok for the degreasing. The Sally's Beauty Supply hair bleach also gets the right results.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:55 PM   #62
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I shot a buck on Saturday and cut the head and I'm deciding on wether not I want to do a euro. I have the head cut off with skin still on. What kind of prep do I need to do to either boil or rid-x the skull?
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #63
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I shot a buck on Saturday and cut the head and I'm deciding on wether not I want to do a euro. I have the head cut off with skin still on. What kind of prep do I need to do to either boil or rid-x the skull?
Skin it, remove eyes and as much meat as possible and then have fun!
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If I did it only as a hobby (rather than a business) I'd be happy to share on a public forum. As it stands, you'd have to catch me over a beer and in a generous mood to share secrets. There is a very well known business (you ALL know it) whose owners came to my shop one time under the guise of wanting me to make them mesquite furniture. They were blown away by the skulls and we spent an hour talking about the process. Never heard another word about their "furniture order", but I did hear from a friend of a friend that they are now doing their own skulls.

What I find interesting is that most taxidermists learn their processes from another taxidermist. When I started doing skulls, I went to a museum currator and picked up a method I've never seen on a hunting or taxidermist forum.

Seems soaking for several weeks with Dawn works ok for the degreasing. The Sally's Beauty Supply hair bleach also gets the right results.
Fair enough. If your ever in my neck of the woods hit me up. I like to drink beer. And i love what i do for a living... Even though the pay its terrible and the hours are long... So there is no chance of me ever being a competitor... Just a poor coach that can't hardly afford all i try to do so DIY are about my favorite 3 letters.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:38 PM   #66
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:46 PM   #67
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:01 PM   #68
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:59 PM   #69
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If I gag, that's it. I turn insideout. Think ill stick to boilin.
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Empty and refill once a week.
Remember to keep a little of the soup in the bucket each time you pour out and refill. That way you don't have to start all over growing all the little bacteria
that help the process.

Or so I've been told so that's what I do.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:51 AM   #71
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Been calling taxidermys about a mount like these getting quotes from $150 to $200 not saying they ain't deserving of their money I just like to put my money in more hunting stuff :-).This looks like the way I may go now I got to get the deer lol.Thanks for posting.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:01 AM   #72
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I mascerated a pig skull this year.

Works great. I am clear coating it as we speak.

Empty and refill once a week.

Will post pics when I'm done.

What I did with my pig skull was put it in a large bucket with about 2 cups of Dawn. Waited a week to change everything out...man I thought I was going to retch up my lower intestine on that one. Again another week and 2 cups of Dawn...changing that one wasn't as bad. Third week everything was degreased and clean. I got some peroxide from the beauty store, I think it was the 40% type, and put that on for a week. They have it in cream form so you can cover it all. The only question I have is how do you put the lower jaw back on the skull when you are all done? It has fallen off twice on me now...maybe it is due to poor gluing or something.

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:25 AM   #73
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Looks great. I might have to give this a try!
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What I did with my pig skull was put it in a large bucket with about 2 cups of Dawn. Waited a week to change everything out...man I thought I was going to retch up my lower intestine on that one. Again another week and 2 cups of Dawn...changing that one wasn't as bad. Third week everything was degreased and clean. I got some peroxide from the beauty store, I think it was the 40% type, and put that on for a week. They have it in cream form so you can cover it all. The only question I have is how do you put the lower jaw back on the skull when you are all done? It has fallen off twice on me now...maybe it is due to poor gluing or something.
This one i buried and dug up later then clear coated... But, i used hanger wire and an eye screw to hold the lower jaw on. Put 2 eye screws in the lower jaw wrap the hanger wire over the top on that hole there and re attach to the other.. Now swivels open and you can position however you want.
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Just put this one in the bucket.

This time i know better and i will only refill.. Not dump out and refill.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:19 PM   #76
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Here is a pic of mine that I did last year. Nothing but water int he bucket. Took about 4 - 5 weeks. I will have my deer from this year done either this week or next.

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Old 11-12-2012, 05:56 PM   #77
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Never tried adding the rid-x makes sense that would speed things up
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:08 AM   #78
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This one i buried and dug up later then clear coated... But, i used hanger wire and an eye screw to hold the lower jaw on. Put 2 eye screws in the lower jaw wrap the hanger wire over the top on that hole there and re attach to the other.. Now swivels open and you can position however you want.
Hey, thanks Coach.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:25 PM   #79
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when degreaseing, does it stick bad? im wondering if i can do it at my apt complex and leave it in the balcony, with dawn soap and water. the bugs and birds already cleaned it to the bone.
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when degreaseing, does it stick bad? im wondering if i can do it at my apt complex and leave it in the balcony, with dawn soap and water. the bugs and birds already cleaned it to the bone.
The degreasing shouldn't stink at all if your skull is properly cleaned. I degrease mine in my garage and can't smell it at all.
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I just started this process. I might invest in a gas mask. Sounds pretty bad.
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The degreasing shouldn't stink at all if your skull is properly cleaned. I degrease mine in my garage and can't smell it at all.
starting after work then!! thanks
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Okay fellows...I skinned mine and followed Wes's instructions. I removed the eyes and as much meat as possible. I submerged it in water with a fourth of a cup of rid-x on the 5th. I have left it alone. I checked on it last night and it still has alot of stuff on it. I tried the waterhose and that did not work.

Did I not use enough rid-x? How much is everyone else using? Should I just add more rid-x to the existing mixture or toss it and start over?
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Here is the before pic. Did I get enough off to start process or should I have done more?
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Does it make a difference if it has been in the freezer since last year? I removed it from the freezer,thawed it, and skinned this one but does that make it take longer to process if it is not a fresh kill?

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^no. Take it out of the freezer, thaw and euro process it.
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Did I not use enough rid-x? How much is everyone else using? Should I just add more rid-x to the existing mixture or toss it and start over?
I use a whole box and i make my container air tight , the warmer the better so leave it in the sun
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Great Post !!
I want to mount my next one like that. And now I know how. Looks like it works great !
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Does it make a difference if it has been in the freezer since last year? I removed it from the freezer,thawed it, and skinned this one but does that make it take longer to process if it is not a fresh kill?
You used plenty Rid-X (you really don't need any)
The cooler weather has slowed the process. The hotter the weather, the better.
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You used plenty Rid-X (you really don't need any)
The cooler weather has slowed the process. The hotter the weather, the better.
Thanks Kevin! Warmer weather is returning so I will wait it out.
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I use a whole box and i make my container air tight , the warmer the better so leave it in the sun
I will reposition it into direct sun. Thanks!
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:43 AM   #93
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Here is the before pic. Did I get enough off to start process or should I have done more?
You got plenty off, it's just the cooler weather slows it down a lot. You can use a fish tank heater in the water to keep it warmer or just wait it out. When I did mine it was in the 90's and it went fast.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:53 AM   #94
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Put on a pair of latex gloves from the auto parts store, get a bunch of single edge razors, a beer and cut/scrape the remaining meat off the bone.

Working on top of a big sheet of plastic or a black yard trash bag makes clean up easier. I did a pig skull like that last week, soaking in dish detergent and water now degreasing the bone.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:57 AM   #95
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Thanks!
The heating in the day and drastic cooling at night is killing you. Put a fish tank heater in there to keep it a constant temp or wait until summer.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #96
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Mines going slow as well. Moving to sunny spot today
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My 5 skulls have been soaking for over 3 weeks now at a constant 90 degrees, so I plan on pulling them out this week and see what they look like. I did bring my full face respirator home from work to help with the smell.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:39 AM   #98
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My 5 skulls have been soaking for over 3 weeks now at a constant 90 degrees, so I plan on pulling them out this week and see what they look like. I did bring my full face respirator home from work to help with the smell.
This just sounds disgusting.
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This just sounds disgusting.
Yes it is...I have 1 deer, 2 hogs, 1 javelina, and an alligator. My wife has had a few choice words for me after the 2nd day they were in the yard, so you can imagine 3 weeks.
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Pulled mine and hit it with 2500 psi power washer and moved pot to the sun.
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