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Old 11-07-2017, 05:25 PM   #1
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When I purchased my new property in August I knew there were exotics around the area, but didn't know what species I would see. So far I have seen Elk, Sika and Axis. This weekend I pulled my camera card and found that I also have Aoudad. I do not know the first thing about them. How to age and score (basically how to tell if it is a mature trophy or not), how to tell sex (do males have horns and the female don't? are they called bucks and does ect? )and weather or not they eat well. The third question is most important because I only take animals that I will eat.

I saw this lone Aoudad (I assume it is a male) and my brother in law says its a trophy but I have no idea. I also have pictures of a group of them together and this one seems meaner looking for lack of better words than the rest.
Help me out what should I be looking for?

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Old 11-07-2017, 05:28 PM   #2
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Looks like a pretty good ram to me. I have never killed one, so I have no idea if they are good to eat or not...
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:30 PM   #3
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The penis generally indicates it is a male. :-) I kid.

Rams vs. ewes

Rams and ewes both have horns.

That is a good representative ram. Decent horns and good chaps.

I thing their is a line of demarcation between young and old :-) but I can't really age them. 30" of curl (per side)is a good standard for a trophy.

Congrats on the land purchase!
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:34 PM   #4
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Some will eat the and say they are great. I am not some. Haaaa. If you only kill what you eat, I bet that changes. Many get sick of the protein/feed hogs and soon treat them as undesirable nuisances.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:36 PM   #5
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Some will eat the and say they are great. I am not some. Haaaa. If you only kill what you eat, I bet that changes. Many get sick of the protein/feed hogs and soon treat them as undesirable nuisances.
Very true! Since this is my property now my perspective may change.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:37 PM   #6
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Many will tell you you can't eat them, but we do and really enjoy them.

These guys agree as well. http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...at#Post6940118
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:38 PM   #7
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The penis generally indicates it is a male. :-) I kid.

Rams vs. ewes

Rams and ewes both have horns.

That is a good representative ram. Decent horns and good chaps.

I thing their is a line of demarcation between young and old :-) but I can't really age them. 30" of curl (per side)is a good standard for a trophy.

Congrats on the land purchase!
Great info. so beyond the obvious penis/ no penis is it easy to tell the Rams from ewes? Chaps/ no chaps? color differences?
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:41 PM   #8
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You are on the right foot with the tripod feeders. I have been awakened at night with the danged things head-butting protein feeders--hard! I have friends with places around Rocksprings and they are at war with them.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:42 PM   #9
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That is a good ram.

Ram = male
Ewe = female

Both rams and ewes have horns; rams grow much bigger horns, mane, and chaps.

Aging can be difficult on the huff. Basically the older the ram the darker they get and the larger body/horns they have. When in a group you can tell older rams from the rest due to size and sometimes coloration.

They live a very long time; some say 15-20 years.

I would not eat them, but hey not telling you what to do.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:43 PM   #10
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That looks to be a pretty nice one for the area, i'd guess he is about 26"

Heed my warning, You need to shoot every Aoudad you see!

The more Aoudad you have the less of everything else you will have.

Their population can explode if you aren't careful.

We laid off of them for 2 seasons thinking it would be cool to have a herd, WRONG!! Before we knew it they were out of control. They are smart, they will take over your feeders, and they are hard to kill.

Our place is in Southern Real county and they have been a major contributing factor to the decline of our whitetail numbers.

I have killed 5 Aoudad with a Recurve, and 1 one with a compound.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:44 PM   #11
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Shoot me a PM with an email and I can send you pics showing rams/ewes in the same game cam photos.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:45 PM   #12
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You are on the right foot with the tripod feeders. I have been awakened at night with the danged things head-butting protein feeders--hard! I have friends with places around Rocksprings and they are at war with them.
I am west of Rocksprings and I hope I don't have to go wot war with them, but I bet I could find a few friends who wouldn't mind helping with the fight.
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Great info. so beyond the obvious penis/ no penis is it easy to tell the Rams from ewes? Chaps/ no chaps? color differences?
It is pretty obvious with mature animals. I probably can't tell the difference between a ewe and juvenile ram at a glance--then again, I don't see any need to. No significant chaps on ewes. You will know a mature ram when you see it. Rams are heavy (like your pics) and about 1.5-2x as big as a mature ewe. Really no mistaking a mature ram with anything else.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:46 PM   #14
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Shoot me a PM with an email and I can send you pics showing rams/ewes in the same game cam photos.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:57 PM   #15
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Many will tell you you can't eat them, but we do and really enjoy them.

These guys agree as well. http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...at#Post6940118

what is the best way in your opinion? from the post you linked I am thinking that I would make burger and sausage if I were to take one.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:04 PM   #16
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I am west of Rocksprings and I hope I don't have to go wot war with them, but I bet I could find a few friends who wouldn't mind helping with the fight.
I humbly except your generous offer
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:05 PM   #17
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That looks to be a pretty nice one for the area, i'd guess he is about 26"

Heed my warning, You need to shoot every Aoudad you see!

The more Aoudad you have the less of everything else you will have.

Their population can explode if you aren't careful.

We laid off of them for 2 seasons thinking it would be cool to have a herd, WRONG!! Before we knew it they were out of control. They are smart, they will take over your feeders, and they are hard to kill.

Our place is in Southern Real county and they have been a major contributing factor to the decline of our whitetail numbers.

I have killed 5 Aoudad with a Recurve, and 1 one with a compound.
if you need help getting rid of them id love to help
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:10 PM   #18
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My advice is kill them all, they have taken over my friends ranch close to mineral wells. We barely ever see deer there anymore
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:14 PM   #19
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They are good to eat. Taste like meat.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:16 PM   #20
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:18 PM   #21
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Our landowner raises them to sell to game raches after they reach a certain size. I believe this year we have 20-30 (all male). And the deer do not seem to give a **** about them. They do not destroy feeders and will walk up to the camp house like they are pets. Besides them humping each other all the time and the constant head bunting noises they are just part of the landscape. In fact, I have looked through my thermal at night to see them bedded down in the same pasture as a good number of deer.

I have been told that once they are released and assimilate into a wild heard they get the 'wild' back but after seeing these all the time I doubt I could shoot one.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:22 PM   #22
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what is the best way in your opinion? from the post you linked I am thinking that I would make burger and sausage if I were to take one.
It is a sheep. Mature sheep is edible and tastes fine, but you need to prepare it correctly. I don't claim that it is the best meat in the world, but I would not be able to shoot one and waste the meat.

We cooked all of ours and it was great. We were sad to see the freezer empty of it. We did not make any sausage. It was mostly roasts and some hamburger I believe.

We cooked it low and slow in a sauce most of the time. If you like Indian food you can use it in a lot of their spicy curry recipes.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:54 PM   #23
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Mature and has good mass...
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:32 PM   #24
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Im not an expert at all, but 31" + is what you are looking for. I think this guy looks good. He has a flaired tip on his left side which makes me think he's pretty long. Mature rams will have dark horns (looks like he does but no others to compare against in the photos) and the bases of their horns will appear to touch, while smaller ones will have a clear space between them. None of the shots are facing so hard to tell. If it was me I'd try and take him. Aim for the shoulder, they are big tough critters and hard to bring down.

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Old 11-07-2017, 07:46 PM   #25
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Look at the gap between their bases, the face is a big give away, marks on the upper portion of their shoulders from their horns rubbing, and their body/chest size.

If you aren’t familiar with them then a ram like him would look balls *** old and then a really mature ram will walk out have twice the chest and another 50-75 pounds on his belly and blow your mind.

A big ram as mentioned is 30+
A monster is 35”+

Alfalfa, salt blocks, protein will keep them coming back (constantly putting those up to appease their appetite is exapensive)

I’d say the ram you posted is just hitting the start of his mature years roughly 8-10 years old The equivalent of a 4.5 white tail.
Rams are said to get anywhere from 12-14 years old with some claiming 18-20 years if the conditions are right.

Length wise I’d guess 26-28” for him . A head on photo mixed with the rest would be awesome.

Now if he fits your fancy then air him out!

Hope the info helps and I’m not a professional by any means. Some of the guys constantly chasing them out West are much more educated on them than me

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Old 11-07-2017, 07:50 PM   #26
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It is a sheep. Mature sheep is edible and tastes fine, but you need to prepare it correctly. I don't claim that it is the best meat in the world, but I would not be able to shoot one and waste the meat.

We cooked all of ours and it was great. We were sad to see the freezer empty of it. We did not make any sausage. It was mostly roasts and some hamburger I believe.

We cooked it low and slow in a sauce most of the time. If you like Indian food you can use it in a lot of their spicy curry recipes.
not a sheep. and not a goat. somewhere in between. the young and the female are really good eating. the rams are not.
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:26 PM   #27
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what is the best way in your opinion? from the post you linked I am thinking that I would make burger and sausage if I were to take one.
If you want to keep it simple, grind it and use it for whatever you use ground beef for.

We process down to muscle groups and go from there whenever we want to cook something.

We have made chile negro, guisado, abondigas, jerky, crispy tacos, burgers, chili, and fried backstrap so far and it has all been good.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:36 PM   #28
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That looks to be a pretty nice one for the area, i'd guess he is about 26"

Heed my warning, You need to shoot every Aoudad you see!

The more Aoudad you have the less of everything else you will have.

Their population can explode if you aren't careful.

We laid off of them for 2 seasons thinking it would be cool to have a herd, WRONG!! Before we knew it they were out of control. They are smart, they will take over your feeders, and they are hard to kill.

Our place is in Southern Real county and they have been a major contributing factor to the decline of our whitetail numbers.

I have killed 5 Aoudad with a Recurve, and 1 one with a compound.


Same - kill them all!

Agreed on the 28 too...
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:53 AM   #29
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I am west of Rocksprings and I hope I don't have to go wot war with them, but I bet I could find a few friends who wouldn't mind helping with the fight.
Have bow will travel, plus I can fix things!!!
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:43 AM   #30
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not a sheep. and not a goat. somewhere in between. the young and the female are really good eating. the rams are not.
The mature ram that we ate tasted great.

My point was that you need to understand the meat if you want to eat it. Don't expect it to be similar to a lamb or a young goat. It is an old mature animal. When most of the world cooks older sheep, they typically cook them in stews and other dishes that are low & slow cooking.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:52 PM   #31
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Rams and ewes.
They are most closely related to wild goats.
The males are bigger and the mane and chaps are more pronounced.
30(+) inches is a trophy.
I don't know much about aging them, but a 30" ram is a shooter.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:54 PM   #32
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Oh... and they eat just fine.
I'd make sausage out of them if you're finicky but I've chunked hind quarter into stew meat and made delicious Irish stew out of an old trophy ram and it was fine.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:33 PM   #33
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OP, grab your AR and shoot all of the aoudad you see. the faster you clear them off your property the better.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:12 PM   #34
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are these any good to eat? or just nice wall trophies?
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:02 PM   #35
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Ram's horns grow approx. 3" per year so a 30" aoudad is about 10 years old and 30" is considered a very nice ram. I disagree with the 28" comments...I think this one is closer to 30".

A young aoudad is very good eating. True story...I recently attended a wild game dinner and the very best thing I ate was chiken-fried aoudad. I have heard an old ram is not very good eating, except for jerky. We did not eat the one I shot. The ranch manager took it to make jerky or sausage or whatever.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:23 PM   #36
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I can't stand aoudad meat, though did have burger once that I could choke down that was mixed with beef and ground bacon to take your mind off the aoudad.

Ecologically speaking, aoudad prefer the same plants as do deer, but when those are unavailable, aoudad can switch to less palatable foods that deer cannot.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:38 PM   #37
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not a sheep. and not a goat. somewhere in between. the young and the female are really good eating. the rams are not.
Aoudad aka Barbary sheep.
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