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Old 10-07-2017, 01:12 PM   #1
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I shot this deer last night and wanted y'alls opinion on weather or not the shot was too high? Gave him about 4 hrs last night before we started looking. Only found blood for about 20 yds after I last saw him. I think the only hope is that I got lucky and hit the opposite lung but it looks a lot like a void hit to me.Name:  IMG_2617.jpg
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #2
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From what I can tell, that deers still alive
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #3
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Looks too high to me
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:36 PM   #4
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I shot this deer last night and wanted y'alls opinion on weather or not the shot was too high? Gave him about 4 hrs last night before we started looking. Only found blood for about 20 yds after I last saw him. I think the only hope is that I got lucky and hit the opposite lung but it looks a lot like a void hit to me.Attachment 876238

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Old 10-07-2017, 02:47 PM   #5
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Yep too high but he sure ducked good. If he hadn't, you'd had him. I say he's still kickin. Nice buck. How far was the shot?
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:58 PM   #6
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Yep too high but he sure ducked good. If he hadn't, you'd had him. I say he's still kickin. Nice buck. How far was the shot?
20-22 yds
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:07 PM   #7
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Too high. Should show back up in a week or two
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:10 PM   #8
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He definitely ducked that to keep himself alive.

Call the Indian tracker Thomas Staley

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:30 PM   #9
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I bet he's still alive.
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:31 PM   #10
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Too high, and probably still kicking!

I shot a buck a couple years ago that had been shot by another guy the night before right thru the backstrap. I had no clue he was even injured till I recovered him and found 4 holes in him!!!

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:54 PM   #11
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Too high, and probably still kicking!

I shot a buck a couple years ago that had been shot by another guy the night before right thru the backstrap. I had no clue he was even injured till I recovered him and found 4 holes in him!!!

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crazy^^^

Yes, I am hoping he shows back up. Have a buddy with a dog in route to make sure, then gonna call it good and let everything settle down.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:05 PM   #12
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Backstrapped him

No such thing as a void.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:07 PM   #13
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Yep, that what we call "no mans land"! Ain't nuffin there that's gonna kill him!
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:38 PM   #14
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crazy^^^

Yes, I am hoping he shows back up. Have a buddy with a dog in route to make sure, then gonna call it good and let everything settle down.
Didn't find anymore blood with the dog. Hopefully he will survive and give me another shot.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:40 PM   #15
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Didn't watch the video but way to high from the photo

He's still alive
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:44 PM   #16
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Thanks for sharing. Dang good shot, but he ducked. Hope you get another chance at him.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:20 PM   #17
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Agree with all the others it is high and if not for him dropping to run off he would be dead. I bet you will see him again and hopefully close the books on him when you do.

I have a buck on the wall from Mississippi that was backstrapped the year before with a 270 by a neighbor property owner less than 200 yards from where I killed him
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:40 PM   #18
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I killed a doe two seasons back that I had shot high shoulder on a few weeks before. Nasty holes through the scapula. She was not even limping when she came back in. Only way I knew it was the same deer was do to the wound. I hated to leave her like that and happy I was the one to finish it.
Stay after him. He may be back.
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Old 10-19-2017, 06:24 PM   #19
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I shot this deer last night and wanted y'alls opinion on weather or not the shot was too high? Gave him about 4 hrs last night before we started looking. Only found blood for about 20 yds after I last saw him. I think the only hope is that I got lucky and hit the opposite lung but it looks a lot like a void hit to me.Attachment 876238

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Hard to believe it didn't catch the opposite lung.
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Old 10-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #20
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It never ceases to amaze me how tuff these animals are
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:54 PM   #21
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Just a piece of advice wait until his head is up. He looses the cantilever effect to drop fast, good luck getting him on round 2
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:02 PM   #22
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He's back. And it looks like he's still carrying the broadhead with him.

Hard to believe it didn't catch the opposite lung.
Yep, looks like the broadhead is stuck in the "exit" side shoulder.

Much to high for lung on the other side, but an inch lower, and you might have got him.

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Old 10-20-2017, 08:04 AM   #23
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Just a piece of advice wait until his head is up. He looses the cantilever effect to drop fast, good luck getting him on round 2
Ahhhhh...thanks for the tip. Never thought about it like that, always thought head down eating was a good time to let it fly. Makes sense. Preciate it.
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:07 AM   #24
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Too high. Should show back up in a week or two
You nailed it....week and a half on return time.
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:25 AM   #25
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Unfortunately it's happened to me a few times..

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Old 10-20-2017, 09:52 AM   #26
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The tenacity and will to survive of wild animals never ceases to amaze me.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:06 AM   #27
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Yep, that what we call "no mans land"! Ain't nuffin there that's gonna kill him!
I have seen a few deer killed that high up.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:11 AM   #28
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Go get him again! Its amazing how these animals show back up as if nothing happened.

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Old 10-20-2017, 10:11 AM   #29
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Backstrapped him

No such thing as a void.
^^^THIS^^^I bet he's still alive.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:17 AM   #30
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Well now that photo looks like you should have got the opposite lung or at least spined him. That's pretty wild. What kind of broadhead you shooting? If you have plenty of KE I'd try a bigger cut mechanical like a spitfire Maxx, as an insurance policy for shots like that. That's a head scratcher.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:22 AM   #31
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I shot a pig is that general area once at the "H" and tracked it forever, and it bled like crazy and never could find it. Shot was a little lower.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:33 AM   #32
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That deer will survive and be just fine. Too much bone in that region so a miss is a miss, and a different broadhead would not have made a difference with that shot. An inch or so either way and you could have been smiling taking ground pictures.
I've seen broadheads that were embedded and healed over inside deer carcasses that were being processed that were a year or more old, that would leave you scratching your head wondering how that animal could have survived.
They are tough animals.

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Old 10-20-2017, 02:21 PM   #33
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Crazy how tough those dang critters are. I had a stud of a buck string jump me bad last year causing a high, forward hit. He showed back up this year even bigger than last..

Good luck to you and hope you get another crack at him!
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:00 PM   #34
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Well now that photo looks like you should have got the opposite lung or at least spined him. That's pretty wild. What kind of broadhead you shooting? If you have plenty of KE I'd try a bigger cut mechanical like a spitfire Maxx, as an insurance policy for shots like that. That's a head scratcher.
Shot with a recurve, Fred Bear razor tip broadhead. Best I can tell the blade went in horizontally, had it been vertical who knows maybe dead deer. Either way I'm happy to see he's still alive. Hopefully I'll get another shot at him. I'm back in the tree now.

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Old 10-20-2017, 07:09 PM   #35
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Just a piece of advice wait until his head is up. He looses the cantilever effect to drop fast, good luck getting him on round 2
Quite possibly one of the best pieces of advise that Iíve ever read on this site. Thank you for sharing that sir!
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:38 AM   #36
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UPDATE

He came in Sunday morning and left with another hole in him.... This time the shot was back and we followed the blood trail with a dog for about 300yds to the creek and lost it. About an hour after the shot I could hear the coyotes going crazy to the south and i’m Convinced that they were on him. Going to keep an eye out for buzzards for the recovery. With the amount of blood we found I think he is dead, just don’t know where he went from the creek. Never found the arrow.
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:32 AM   #37
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P-dot Put some limb savers on your Recurve. From the video your are getting a twack and need more of a thump. A little lower sound might help.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:00 AM   #38
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There's an elephant in this room.
Should it be addressed?

I think so.

p_dot, this is not a dig at you. Believe me, I do understand. We've all been there.

I understand the need to discuss this (get it off your chest) with someone, but in my opinion you should have the discussion with your friends, and in private.

I've gotta tell you, it made me cringe when you posted you shot & lost him again. Think about it. You have publicly posted about shooting & losing the same deer, TWICE.

I think the damage to reputation this type of discussion does far outweighs any benefit coming from it.

Once again, this is not a dig at you, and I truly do understand. I just don't think these type posts benefit anyone

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Old 10-31-2017, 10:26 AM   #39
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No problem Rick. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:29 AM   #40
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P-dot Put some limb savers on your Recurve. From the video your are getting a twack and need more of a thump. A little lower sound might help.
I agree, sounds pretty loud on the video to me too. I have beaver string silencers but need to add something to quiet the bow a little more. Thanks for the tip!
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:29 AM   #41
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Rick it always is a tough post when someone loses a deer no matter the weapon used to hunt. For me it's hard because I was so proficient with my compound and losing two doe last year with my recurve gave me pause in believing I would ever be capable enough with a trad bow to be proficient. Even my first found doe last January wasn't a perfect shot. The doe I took the other day was a spine shot. Effective but not where I wanted it. So that question is still eating at me regardless of how well my target shooting is going.

Wounding and losing an animal is a tough thing and can be a sticky subject of discussion. If you are wounding and losing animals because your shooting practice and preparation is insufficient then ethics come into play and one possibly needs to revisit the question if they are ready to hunt with the chosen weapon.

However, if like me, you are shooting regularly, practice from your stands and can reliably place kill shots in practice then sometimes it leaves you so bewildered as to why a hunting shot didn't go right that you feel the need to reach out to your peers for help. At that point shying away from the conversation doesn't help the ones trying to get proficient at this new archery challenge.
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Just as an example this is my first shot this evening. Just in from work and want to get a few in before the light fades. I can do this on any given day. 19 yards sitting. So why can't I make a perfect 13 to 15 yard shot on an animal or in an FSC shot? Who knows but I wish someone could and would. Hard to see due to low light but solid in the one inch dot. Target is under tree so it simulates a low light hunt well.

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Old 10-31-2017, 09:13 PM   #43
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I have seen a few deer killed that high up.
Yup, I've done it.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:06 PM   #44
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P Dot, these and a set of Beaver Balls quietened my bows a lot. Before that I had mole skin on the limbs where the string hits and beaver balls in the string. These work better than the moleskin and also work like brush buttons and prtect bow and string if hanging the bow

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