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Old 03-10-2018, 10:05 AM   #1
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I just poured the foundation for my concrete smoker/propane grill that I am building myself. Here is my plan. One question is, is the smoker pit too big? I'll mostly be smoking a 20 lb brisket or a turkey. Another question is should I make it 32" or 40" tall? Those numbers are due to the cinderblocks measuring 8" in height. I will be only lining the fire box with the firebrick. Any other tips would be appreciated.
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Old 03-10-2018, 10:41 AM   #2
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I dont have answers but in for the build. Been think about doing a large outdoor kitchen/ party area.

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Here's the link to the patio I made. Going to start on the smoker/grill

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=657172
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You and I have a lot of the same ideas. I want to build the patio like you did yours and I also want to build a smoker. Its gonna look great. I too was wondering on the specs for a smoker. I wanted to do a permanent build so I wanted to make sure it was done right the first time.
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Cut the blocks and go close to 36". I wouldn't go any smaller on cooking chamber. You really should line the inside of the firebox and smoke chamber with ceramic refractory blanket and finish with steel. It will keep your temps very stable, cut down on wood consumption and keep your stone from cracking.
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Any particular reason youre going with 4 block instead of 8?

You can cut the block down to whatever height you need.

Id either fill the cores of the firebox block with concrete or vermiculite insulation to help retain the heat and keep the block from cracking.


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With the suggestions in place,I'd also extend smoking area if possible and do a double or triple rack on smoker and build it up higher for extra racks. I started small, and wish I'd gone big from the beginning.
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Cut the blocks and go close to 36". I wouldn't go any smaller on cooking chamber. You really should line the inside of the firebox and smoke chamber with ceramic refractory blanket and finish with steel. It will keep your temps very stable, cut down on wood consumption and keep your stone from cracking.
I was going to line the firebox with ceramic firebricks. Should I do the smokebox as well? I'm trying to avoid metal because it will eventually corrode like the metal fire boxes on regular smokers. Concrete will last longer.
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Any particular reason youre going with 4 block instead of 8?

You can cut the block down to whatever height you need.

Id either fill the cores of the firebox block with concrete or vermiculite insulation to help retain the heat and keep the block from cracking.


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Only reason I went with the 4" is to save space. Filling them up to retain heat is a good idea. Thanks!
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:39 AM   #11
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My smoker pit is 20" wide and 28" deep. I've been able to smoke large briskets and turkey with no problem.

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I wanted my fire box to double as a wood burning grill. Good luck!

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Mine is 32 inches tall and seems to be a good height. Any taller and it would be hard to open the lids.
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Mine is 32 inches tall and seems to be a good height. Any taller and it would be hard to open the lids.
That's true about the height and lid. Thanks
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Old 03-11-2018, 12:46 PM   #15
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Why wouldn't you put your fire box on the end or did I look at it wrong. Go big
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Why wouldn't you put your fire box on the end or did I look at it wrong. Go big
Because I wanted the chimney at the end
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I always work with the idea of my smoke chamber being 50% bigger than my firebox. I built a cinder block smoker a few years ago, made the smoke chamber 5 blocks high and the firebox 3 blocks high. The orientation is very important too, as I found out the hard way haha, you want something like that to be able to draft a suitable airflow I always try to orientate it with the normal wind pattern. Love those type of pits, can't wait to see the finished product


Edit: I had designed mine to use a homemade rotisserie I made with a small electric motor, for whole hogs and whatnot. Just a thought for you moving forward.

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Is there any special type of cement/concrete that is used that wont crack with heat for the slab?
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Is there any special type of cement/concrete that is used that wont crack with heat for the slab?


Easiest thing to do is line it with firebrick


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I meant for the slab itself....


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I meant for the slab itself....


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Pour a slab. Line the bottom of the fire box with firebrick...


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Thanks on the tips skloss. I was finally able to get a hold of some firebricks as well as fire resistant mortar. Here's what my layout is looking like
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Sure thing. Hurt my head looking at that pic. Had to adjust it a little.


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Following as I want to build a masonry pit at some point.
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layout looks good... Looking forward to progress pics...
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Thanks guys. The firebricks were bigger than I thought. There 3" thick, which made my firebox from18" to 12" so I had to expand it to take it back out to 18". Luckily I made the foundation bigger than I planned just in case. Gonna start to grout hopefully today.
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Here's what I've done so far. Some of the cinder blocks on the top layer aren't mortared in yet, that why they look funny. I'm trying to figure out what would gen the appropriate size for the opening from the firebox to the smoker box. I'm thinking 8x16. Also, after all this, I forgot about the chimney at the end.
Luckily I can still salvage and make it work. More to come. Tips would be appreciated.
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It's been a while but I'm back at it. I finally finished the block work and began to lay in the fire bricks. And of course I ran out of them. The chimney needs to be cemented as well and I am having someone make me custom tops and doors. Then I could finally finish covering it with flagstone.
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:21 AM   #34
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that is looking good. can't wait to see the finished product.

I don't see anything on the side in which you have allocated for the propane grill side? The other side i see rebar that support your grates but on the propane side i don't see anything. How will you arrange those?
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Looking great. I'll be doing something similar within the next couple years (God willing). I can't remember, did you say you're doing more than one rack in the smoker? Will you be adding a rack in the firebox as well? Is that where you'll do your gas grilling too?
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that is looking good. can't wait to see the finished product.

I don't see anything on the side in which you have allocated for the propane grill side? The other side i see rebar that support your grates but on the propane side i don't see anything. How will you arrange those?
I'm putting solid cinder blocks to build up so it's at a working height. I'll take more picks as I continue to add
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Looking great. I'll be doing something similar within the next couple years (God willing). I can't remember, did you say you're doing more than one rack in the smoker? Will you be adding a rack in the firebox as well? Is that where you'll do your gas grilling too?
So far I have it set up for only one rack, but there's always room to change that. I don't think I'll need more than that. I'm going to put a removable rack in the fire box for when I want to cook with charcoal. I'll take more picks as I continue to build.
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When I do mine, I was thinking about running the gas to the firebox and adding a removable rack so it could double as a firebox or a gas grill. For those in the know, any reason not to do that?
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When I do mine, I was thinking about running the gas to the firebox and adding a removable rack so it could double as a firebox or a gas grill. For those in the know, any reason not to do that?
I thought about doing this, but I thought that the heat and expose time to the components would mess them up. That's why I made a separate section for propane
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I finally finished the fire box lining with the firebrick. A welder quote me for the lids and door for $600. I called a local metal company and they quoted me for $160. So, I ran across town to get them cut for me, but apperently, the lady on the phone quoted me for the diamond shaped grill used t put the food on (I was pizzed because I had to drive across town. They gave me a quote on the actual metal I wanted (1/8 inch thickness) and they said $280 plus tax. I didn't realize how expensive it was going to be but apparently prices have almost doubled because of the trump policies about imports. Whatever. I was already there so I went ahead and bought them. I was able to talk him into giving me a bunch of scrap metal so I could practice my welding so I could weld hinges and handles. This is how it's looking so far.
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This is cool...IN for the updates
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Looking good. But are you not going to put mortar in between the fire bricks? Seems like the heat would get through and still cause damage to the cinder blocks and concrete if you dont?

Interesting build though and im in for the rest. Never thought of doing something like this, but I bet that smoker will hold heat extremely well.

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Old 05-06-2018, 10:12 AM   #50
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I bought the fireproof mortar but I read that just packing the bricks nice and tight will work just fine. I'm going to try it without the mortar. I'm also looking into ordering hinges and handles. My only dilemma right now is how to get air flow in the fire pit. I wanted to put a damper system in the firebox door, but I don't have a plasma cutter
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