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    What do yall think about American made (LOL!) Harley Davidson?

    So the harley's I've owned all had parts made in other countries and when I questioned the dealership on my last one a 1974 Super Glide about why my forks had Japenese or Chinese (I can't read either) stamped inside where you had to take em apart to find this. He kinda mumbled that they are 100% ASSEMBLED in USA (remember there is a city in China named USA). Anyway now they're claiming that Trumps tariffs are causing them to move out of the country for everything - yet this move was slated before any of this?!?! Enlighten me please

    #2
    That's an easy one.

    Harley has not been doing good for a while. Been going down the tube for years. Now, with all the bash Trump media, they jumped on the chance to blame everything on Trumps policies. They found their scapegoat.


    And "assembled" in the USA just means all parts are made elsewhere. Someone hear just snaps them together.

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      #3
      Really disappointed, but nothing surprises me anymore.

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        #4
        The publicity on this will not be good for them.

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          #5
          Harley has been using Showa front forks since the 1970's. Showa is owned by Honda. I still like my HondaDavidson

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            #6
            I heard that they researched where most of Trump's companies manufacture their goods. They figured it it was good enough for him....

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              #7
              Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
              Harley has been using Showa front forks since the 1970's. Showa is owned by Honda. I still like my HondaDavidson
              Now that's funny!!!!LOL!

              My wife's car is a SAAB and it clearly says 89% German made and 11% Sweden. Surely we could benefit from such requirements. Like in the knife world Gerber tries to say everything is made in Portland Or. but after they lost $2.5 million in a law suit for faulty axe handles and several suits for their Bear Gryllis line snapping off at the base of the tang, I saw all kinds of bashing including a Chinese mfg. rep who posted that you get what you pay for and Gerber wanted bottom of the line for cost savings and that's what they got - maybe worth $12 each for an axe!! Here's the way Boker is played because the regulations there. Here companies are required to mark each blade with the country of origin - that is unless they are shipped in cases of them - then they only require one label stating such is in each case?!?!? This is known as product differentiation and Boker plays it well and I would imagine it's because they are forced to by regulations

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                #8
                Does this mean we can expect the rice burner and Euro tariff's that were put in place to save HD in the first place?
                Last edited by Let's go Brandon!; 06-27-2018, 03:09 PM.

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                  #9
                  Found this on Harley's from throttleX
                  Harley contracts manufacturing of parts to plants located all over the world, including Germany, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, and Mexico. Those parts are then shipped to Harley factories here. And these are not just accessories, but components for engines, chassis, and wheels. Exactly what percentage of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle is American made, is not exactly known, as each model and model year is different.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JFISHER View Post
                    Does this mean we can expect the rice burner and Euro tariff's that were put in place to save HD in the first place?
                    I had a riding buddy that had an AMF Harley - he said it stood for adios Mo Fo!!

                    I think the tariffs are the reason HD is backpeddling - they already had a plan to move everything out and then Trump put some rotten eggs in their basket - I also think that HD thinks coastal elites are their main buyers which is kinda sad since Everyone I know that rides is a hard working conservative!
                    Last edited by chopsknives; 06-27-2018, 03:37 PM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
                      Harley has been using Showa front forks since the 1970's. Showa is owned by Honda. I still like my HondaDavidson
                      FYI I still love HD heck my Dad had an Indian Scout way back in the day and I'm not sure but would bet they outsource too - I don't hate Gerber either - their American made line is good stuff for factory. But being a handmade maker who discloses point of origin on EVERYTHING I don't make myself (or dig up LOL) I find it really discouraging and very disrespectful to true artisans when factories muddy the water - you know many Euro companies still do well with transparency I just wonder why the Greatest Country in the World can't have it?

                      I still have a lazer cut aluminum HD emblem on my living room wall and still have pics of my Bikes adorning the walls - even my one bike with a jammer fender and a king and queen seat!

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                        #12
                        I used to make some of the wire harness / switch assemblies for HD when I worked in Mexico. Having foreign content & assembled in the US is basically the norm for mfg these days. I'll ask Beamer when I see him again, but I think 51% of the total cost of parts have to be supplied from US mfg's to qualify the Made in the USA Flag on consumer / appliance / white goods, etc. Not sure if it's the same for the auto industry.

                        I heard a report today that they already had plans to move some production overseas...if this is factual, then it was a brilliant ploy to blame the move on tariffs & not get consumers and mostly HD workers who could possible get laid off in a huff??



                        Originally posted by chopsknives View Post
                        Found this on Harley's from throttleX
                        Harley contracts manufacturing of parts to plants located all over the world, including Germany, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, and Mexico. Those parts are then shipped to Harley factories here. And these are not just accessories, but components for engines, chassis, and wheels. Exactly what percentage of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle is American made, is not exactly known, as each model and model year is different.

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                          #13
                          Yeah man transparency that's all I'm talking about!! You know the truth will set you free!!!

                          Sure won't make everybody wonder what % is BS !!!

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                            #14
                            GM (cheby) and Harley both use Mercury Marine for their aluminum engine castings particularly the heads. Now I know that Mercury and Tohatsu are or were in bed together on outboard engines up to a certain size. It's a tangled web of deceit out there. I would imagine most of Mercury marine aluminum castings are not done in USA.

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                              #15
                              My Dad bought a Pontoon boat from a neighbor since they won't F You LOL! I mean my Mom actually cooked for them when his wife was in the hospital EVERYDAY!!!!! Turns out the local marine pro said he already told the guy it couldn't be fixed as it was a Johnson / Suzuki and since Johnsonm didn't want to acknowledge that they used Suzuki engines that it was impossible to get the software to read the engine?!?! So we then turned to the Suzuki repair shop in Longview who said no prob if it's Suzuki I can fix it! Showed him the big S stamp on the motor and he said we're good to go! Went to pick it up and paid hundreds of dollars and when I asked what the computer said he told me - didn't have to use it that he was able to fix it the old fashioned way - got it home and found out we wasted $100 with the first mechanic and another $400 with the Suzuki "SPECIALIST" Had a long winded conversation with Johnson who finally admitted they filed Bankruptcy and used Suzuki engines and the software might be available for $300 but only to a certified Johnson mechanic. So basically my Pop spent his golden years w/o a boat as my Mom was so fed up she just said no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMDH

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