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Old 11-11-2018, 06:40 PM   #1
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How do you know when you have prostate cancer? Well, you can wait until you have symtoms or you can have a simple bloodwork screening test to check your PSA level.You may not notice any symptoms until it has metastisized (spread). With early detection, while still contained in the gland, there are several options to cure it. If not caught early, it can metasticize and spread to your lymphnodes, bladder, rectum, bones, and other parts of your body; not good at all!

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Trouble urinating, pain when urinating
Decreased force in the stream of urine
Blood in semen
Incontenance, both urinary and bowels
Discomfort in the pelvic area
Bone pain
Inability to arrow big bucks
Hip or back pain
Stomach pain
Erectile dysfunction


If you are a male over 45, especially an African-American male (who are twice as prone to prostate cancer), you should have your PSA checked through blood labwork. Your doctor can advise on how often to have it checked after that, but certainly every few years.

20 years ago at age 51 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer via a blood workup performed as a promise to my brother-in-law who had the dreaded disease. I assured him I would have it checked, never dreaming that I would have cancer. Other people get cancer, not me . Usually PC is a slow growing form of cancer and fairly easy to treat IF caught early. Mine was advance rapidly but contained to the gland. The doc did a radical prostatectemy (removed the whole dang thang with some surrounding tissue margin to be certain) and felt comfortable that he got it all; did not feel the need to follow up with radiation or chemo. I went back to him every 3-6 months for several years to double check, and got a clean bill of health every time until he finally said he didn't need to see me anymore. I have been thankful for 20 years that I did not have to worry about PC anymore...until...

Last summer my new primary care doctor ran my bloodwork. I was mostly concerned with my cholesterol and A1C, never even realized he would check my PSA. Well, it was 22.5 (anything 4 or more is a concern)! Went to a urologist (mine had retired), and my PSA had risen to 28.9, 6 weeks after the 22.5 reading! After 20 years, my cancer had returned! No way! WAY!!!

I took a female hormone shot plus 30 hormone pills to slow the growth down, then started radiation. I am now having hot flashes from the hormones, and my boobs are probably going to rival Caitlyn Jenner's . I have finished #19 of the 35 radiation treatments, and my oncologist assures me I can be cured. Other than the hot flashes, messed up bowel movements and burning urination, I am fine and haven't lost an hour of sleep over this. I DID miss a tuner trip though !!!

You guys get your PSA checked...regularly!

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Old 11-11-2018, 06:44 PM   #2
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Stay strong! Keep doing what they tell you and thank you for talking about this to all of us......
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:46 PM   #3
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KCA you got this Randy.
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:50 PM   #4
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Man, Im wishing you the best. I was diagnosed at age 50, 16years ago. Had radiation seeds. . 86 of them. Been clean ever since thank God.
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:10 PM   #5
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Just a warning from my experience with prostate cancer. My PSA was normal (1.4) but my doctor felt something unusual with the rectal finger exam. After biopsy was confirmed that I had prostate cancer. I had PSA and digital exam every year. My cancer scored a Gleason score of 7, which meant we had to do something fast. Had robotic prostatectomy surgery. I had some other issues following surgery which I won't bore all with.
My point is if you are over 50, you need to get an annual PSA test AND a digital rectum prostate exam.
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:11 PM   #6
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Man, Im wishing you the best. I was diagnosed at age 50, 16years ago. Had radiation seeds. . 86 of them. Been clean ever since thank God.
Good on ya! Just be sure to have that PSA checkedevery couple of yers.

When I had my surgery 20 years ago, the Brachytheraphy treatments did not yet have enough history for my urologist and me to be comfortable that it was better than totally removing the gland with the cancer contained...or so we thought.
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:30 PM   #7
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Round to for myself. Had mine removed all is good for 15 years. Started inching up. Have had the chest and Pelvic scans, tomorrow for the bone scan. The 26th of Nov. meeting with the Doc. They have come light years from 15 years ago. You can not go wrong with MD Anderson.
As quoted don't screw around and not get your PSA checked, everyone has it its just when will it come active. Family history
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:32 PM   #8
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:33 PM   #9
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Prayers up Burnadell! KCA! We need you around this joint to keep folks in line!
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:54 PM   #10
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Stick with it, sir. Glad you got on top of it.

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:58 PM   #11
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:59 PM   #12
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Prayers up, friend. My FIL is dealing with exactly the same thing right now. Heís old as hell, like you, too.. Cancer sucks, but if you gotta get it, the Prostate is pretty curable. Youíll be in my prayers, Randy, and if you need anything besides a second opinion Iím just a phone call away.


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Old 11-11-2018, 08:00 PM   #13
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Inability to arrow big bucks. Lol. Thanks for bringing a little humor to a serious subject and thanks for sharing. Will be praying for you Randy!


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Dang it....prayers for ya Randy. KCA my friend!!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:06 PM   #15
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Prayers up!

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:10 PM   #16
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I ain’t worried about ya. You’re too much man for that sissy disease.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:10 PM   #17
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Randy I have a Dr Garca that said he will do your exams free and often.

Prayers up and look forward to next time I get to hug you in person.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:12 PM   #18
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im praying for you brother! And, thanks for the good advice.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:14 PM   #19
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Round to for myself. Had mine removed all is good for 15 years. Started inching up. Have had the chest and Pelvic scans, tomorrow for the bone scan. The 26th of Nov. meeting with the Doc. They have come light years from 15 years ago. You can not go wrong with MD Anderson.
As quoted don't screw around and not get your PSA checked, everyone has it its just when will it come active. Family history
Wow, so you are a member of the brotherhood! I'm glad you were keeping check on yours after 15 years. I seriously had not had mine checked again in probably 15-16 years and told my previous primary care doctor, the he could forget the PSA on the bloodwork...boy was I wrong!

You are correct. They have progressed immensley in the last 20 years. I had a CT scan, bone scan, MRI, and a new type of scan specific for prostate cancer called AXUMIN...more thorough for checking to see if it has spread.

Good luck to you. Keep me posted.
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Randy I have a Dr Garca that said he will do your exams free and often.

Prayers up and look forward to next time I get to hug you in person.
Thanks for the kind offer, but there will be NO injections from your Dr. Garca!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:18 PM   #21
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Randy I have a Dr Garca that said he will do your exams free and often.

Prayers up and look forward to next time I get to hug you in person.
I heard Dr. Garca comes highly recommended!

Me and Julie are praying for you too! We need to get the group together soon, tuna trip or not.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:18 PM   #22
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Prayers up Burnadell! KCA! We need you around this joint to keep folks in line!
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I ainít worried about ya. Youíre too much man for that sissy disease.
Yep, I ain't going anywhere. It's mighty hard to kill a weed!!!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:22 PM   #23
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Dang Randy, as I read your story, it exactly the same thing I went through 16 years ago at age 54. I too had the radical prostectamy with no chemo or radiation as it was contained. I still get my PSA yearly and all is still good, but I do know that dreaded disease can come back at any time. So sorry youíre having to go through this again. Best of luck beating it again.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:26 PM   #24
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Dang Randy!!! Prayers and love sent
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:33 PM   #27
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:35 PM   #28
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:41 PM   #29
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Thanks for bringing this to light Randy. PC and colon cancer are the two biggest killers of males besides heart disease. And both can be contained and stopped if caught in time. I watched a friend of mine battle it for 11 years. He had a lot of experimental treatments at the time. But seeding was just a couple more years away when he lost his battle through the spread of it.


I'll be praying for you my friend! And thanks for the reminder. I will ask my doc to have my blood work checked the next time I go in.
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Randy, sure am sorry you have to go thru this!! Thank you for thinking of your TBH brethren... and especially all your GOF brothers!! You hang in there and do what your care team tells you! The Lord ain't done with you yet!

Lord, we come to You tonight in prayer asking for healing for our brother Randy. Remove this cancer from his body Lord. You know his heart Lord, and You know his work is not done. Give him more years Lord just like you did Hezekiah those many years ago that he was able to complete his work for Israel and You. Use his care givers to do Your work Lord, that he may be healed. Guide their hands and technology to its completion. Comfort Randy and his family that they may know that You are God. Give them all the peace of knowing that You know every cell of this man and how to bring about healing. Guide Randy and his team and direct them that they may bring Glory to You Lord, for it is in the name of Jesus our Savior we pray, Amen..

Keep us posted brother. Love ya man and look forward to seeing you at Bownanza '19!
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Glad to hear that you are on top of this thing.

I had PSAs as high as 13.2 and four of those lovely needle biopsies and they never found cancer. I have taken Proscar for about 15-20 years to lower PSA and it has hovered around 2.5 for many years. It is checked annually but in the back of my mind there is always an uneasy feeling until the latest PSA reading comes back. At my age, 84, it is unlikely that they would do anything even if they find I have it. Two of my friends that I alerted when I got the initial scare have found that they have had prostate cancer.

Listen to the man guys, get the PSA tests...!!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:48 PM   #32
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:49 PM   #33
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KCA Mr Burnadell!!!
I am higher risk bc my father had it in his mid 40s. Been cancer free 5 plusyears but ya never just know. I will def be going in soon for a check up
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:51 PM   #34
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Sorry to hear about this but I know you will KCA. Prayers up for ya. I finally had mine checked this year at age 54. It will be part of my annual check up each year for sure.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:52 PM   #35
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Prayers up for you Randy!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:55 PM   #36
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I only know you on the green screen but from what I can tell, and I’m a good judge, your too honery to let something like cancer be of bother to him.

Prayers for you regardless!
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:57 PM   #37
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Prayers up for ya bud. I have no doubt, you'll kick it's arse

My prostrate issues are far less than yours, but I will have my PSA level checked, next dr. visit.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:59 PM   #38
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:09 PM   #39
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Randy take care of yourself bud and I see you at Bownanza.
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I just want to say thank you for starting this conversation. It is a subject that isn't talked about enough. I just want to add that you don't have to have cancer to have serious prostate issues. I know first hand. I've been at 7% kidney function. I know how close I was to really serious problems. As men we all come with a factory installed prostate. It is a fact that if you live long enough you are going to have prostate issues. Educate your self. The exams aren't something to look forward to but if you don't I can promise you the ones that come after aren't any better but they may save your life, don't put it off.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:13 PM   #41
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:32 PM   #42
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Hate to hear that Randy. Praying for a full recovery.

I've been a regular patient at MD Anderson since May, and get bloodwork done every time I go in, but I honestly don't know whether or not they are checking PSA level. I don't see it in my online test results, but I don't know what most of those tests are anyway. I will certainly ask when I am in for another round of scans next month. I just turned 50 in September so I know I am due for testing. Thank you for the reminder.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:35 PM   #43
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Prayers for you both and great advice.
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Just a warning from my experience with prostate cancer. My PSA was normal (1.4) but my doctor felt something unusual with the rectal finger exam. After biopsy was confirmed that I had prostate cancer. I had PSA and digital exam every year. My cancer scored a Gleason score of 7, which meant we had to do something fast. Had robotic prostatectomy surgery. I had some other issues following surgery which I won't bore all with.
My point is if you are over 50, you need to get an annual PSA test AND a digital rectum prostate exam.
Do It.
Yep. PSA is just an indicater and not foolproof. Glad you found it and took care of it!

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Glad to hear that you are on top of this thing.

I had PSAs as high as 13.2 and four of those lovely needle biopsies and they never found cancer. I have taken Proscar for about 15-20 years to lower PSA and it has hovered around 2.5 for many years. It is checked annually but in the back of my mind there is always an uneasy feeling until the latest PSA reading comes back. At my age, 84, it is unlikely that they would do anything even if they find I have it. Two of my friends that I alerted when I got the initial scare have found that they have had prostate cancer.

Listen to the man guys, get the PSA tests...!!
Ouch! Those needle biopsies are certainly not fun! Hoping it does not show up!

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I just want to say thank you for starting this conversation. It is a subject that isn't talked about enough. I just want to add that you don't have to have cancer to have serious prostate issues. I know first hand. I've been at 7% kidney function. I know how close I was to really serious problems. As men we all come with a factory installed prostate. It is a fact that if you live long enough you are going to have prostate issues. Educate your self. The exams aren't something to look forward to but if you don't I can promise you the ones that come after aren't any better but they may save your life, don't put it off.
Good point. There are other issues besides cancer that can cause prostate problems. Thanks for your imput.


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Hate to hear that Randy. Praying for a full recovery.

I've been a regular patient at MD Anderson since May, and get bloodwork done every time I go in, but I honestly don't know whether or not they are checking PSA level. I don't see it in my online test results, but I don't know what most of those tests are anyway. I will certainly ask when I am in for another round of scans next month. I just turned 50 in September so I know I am due for testing. Thank you for the reminder.
Darn it, Duane! Sorry you are having to deal with whatever and hope they get you fixed up. Certainly you are in good hands there! It is possible that they ran your PSA the first time they drew blood, and it was low so they never mentioned it. Prayers.


Thanks to all of you for your words of encouragement and prayers...and those funny comments. I really didn't start the thread to elicit sympathy or prayers, although I will accept all prayers that are offered. I simply wanted to alert our male members (no pun intended ) to stay alert, have your PSA checked so you can catch it early if it shows up and deal with it before spreading.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:13 AM   #47
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Prayers for fast recovery. Months of radiation and hormone shots for year after and my PSA is now showing undetectable. PSA checked every 6 months now. Have it checked guys!
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:41 AM   #48
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Our thoughts, prayers, and support are with you Randy

You cleared it up once, do it again....

See you at Nanza in 19"
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:43 AM   #49
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:45 AM   #50
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Prayers for you, Randy and thanks for the reminder.
I just turned 50 last month and have dreaded the extra checks that I will have to do. My dad has had issues for years but luckily not cancer. Because of this, I was told that I needed to start getting checked before 50 and I did. I just set up my physical for next week.

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