Form 4 Wait

[txhunter90]

Local gun shops are getting singles back from december and january.

[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

Suppressor for me took roughly 5 months. SBR took 2 weeks.

when?

[Texjack]

13 months for mine

[Paslaw0311]

Originally Posted by txhunter90

Local gun shops are getting singles back from december and january.

Was this multiple returns, or just a fluke single? This got me excited, I'm waiting on my Hybrid that was mailed Feb 2, and Pending Mar 13.

[150class]

NFA page on Facebook showing people getting forms back anywhere from September of last year to February of this year

[txhunter90]

Originally Posted by Paslaw0311

Was this multiple returns, or just a fluke single? This got me excited, I'm waiting on my Hybrid that was mailed Feb 2, and Pending Mar 13.

This is multiple ones, they did not become a class 3 dealer until November of last year. So all the ones they have gotten in have been November and December. Spoke with Silencer Shop and said they wouldnt be suprised if the wait times drop down to 6-7 months.

[txhunter90]

Originally Posted by Paslaw0311

Was this multiple returns, or just a fluke single? This got me excited, I'm waiting on my Hybrid that was mailed Feb 2, and Pending Mar 13.

This one better 6-6.5 month wait.

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[txhunter90]

Just to confirm tax stamp was approved yesterday, making it 6 month wait. Stamp should be here in the next 2 weeks.

[gingib]

Originally Posted by txhunter90

Just to confirm tax stamp was approved yesterday, making it 6 month wait. Stamp should be here in the next 2 weeks.

You waited 6 months just to get your tax stamp or the suppressor?

[txhunter90]

Originally Posted by gingib

You waited 6 months just to get your tax stamp or the suppressor?

Tax stamp

[ultralite09]

I must have been assigned to the slowest MFer in the entire US. At day # 374 now

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[txhunter90]

Originally Posted by ultralite09

I must have been assigned to the slowest MFer in the entire US. At day # 374 now

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That sucks, suppressor was picked up today. 7 months or so, can't remember exactly.

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[wickll]

My check was cashed 2/22/17. Form 4 Individual. Stamp came in Saturday. 10/7/17.

[35remington]

Originally Posted by ultralite09

I must have been assigned to the slowest MFer in the entire US. At day # 374 now

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I can’t remember. Have you called the ATF?

[hooligan]

Waiting on mine from Jan. Went through Capital

[Texas89]

Following this. Got the trust back today. Fingerprints and picture tomorrow. Waiting on payday to go down and pay


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[Destry]

I've gotten two back from the middle of march and one from the end of April


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[gingib]

Originally Posted by Destry

I've gotten two back from the middle of march and one from the end of April


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Blows my mind how some people get them back very quick and some take a year. I just don't understand it

[35remington]

Originally Posted by gingib

Blows my mind how some people get them back very quick and some take a year. I just don't understand it

Your wait just got a day longer since you didn't file today.

[Destry]

The electronic filing from Silencer Shop seems to be a lot faster


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[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by Destry

The electronic filing from Silencer Shop seems to be a lot faster


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No E-file anymore for form 4s......from anyone.

[gingib]

Originally Posted by Outbreaker

No E-file anymore for form 4s......from anyone.

I am doing all mine online and will not step foot in a store

[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by gingib

I am doing all mine online and will not step foot in a store

E-file was 100% electronic.

The Silencer shop is online collection of information that is printed and sent by paper just like all the rest. I have done this with them and have one in Jail.

[35remington]

Originally Posted by Destry

The electronic filing from Silencer Shop seems to be a lot faster

Originally Posted by Outbreaker

No E-file anymore for form 4s......from anyone.

You're both right . . . kind of. SilencerShop, working with ATF, Gemtech, and DeadAir created an electronic barcode system that *should* in theory reduce wait times.

https://blog.silencershop.com/f4-bar...proved-by-atf/

But yes, Form 4 e-file is gone. All Form 4s are paper-filed now. Bignig may "never step into a store," but he's not the one doing the filing. SS will print and drop in snail mail.

[boh347]

Originally Posted by Destry

I've gotten two back from the middle of march and one from the end of April


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From silencer shop?
Nevermind you said silencer shop...

[Maui-diver]

I bought a MK111 300 blackout (SBR) with an omega 30 cal suppressor on March 23rd, check cashed on April 17 2017 which apparently its now in "pending" status. Bought at Capitol Armory here in Cedar Park and filed both as "Independant". Glad I did as those seem to be moving pretty fast.

[ultralite09]

Pretty ****** off but bright side is I'm approved.

Payment processed August 27 2016
Stamp Approved August 28 2017
Stamp is lost somewhere, either USPS lost it or FFL dropped the ball and is playing the blame game.

Now I have to submit a request for a certified copy and wait some more.

Filed as individual.

[35remington]

Originally Posted by ultralite09

Pretty ****** off but bright side is I'm approved.

Payment processed August 27 2016
Stamp Approved August 28 2017
Stamp is lost somewhere, either USPS lost it or FFL dropped the ball and is playing the blame game.

Now I have to submit a request for a certified copy and wait some more.

Filed as individual.

Oh that sucks huge donkey balls.

[gingib]

Placing my order today.....company told me 6-7 months

[ultralite09]

Originally Posted by 35remington

Oh that sucks huge donkey balls.

Yuuupp. Sucks that it's my first too and I don't even get my actual stamp. Oh well, hate the way the shop handled the situation. Definitely won't be buying anything from them moving forward.

[gingib]

Originally Posted by ultralite09

Yuuupp. Sucks that it's my first too and I don't even get my actual stamp. Oh well, hate the way the shop handled the situation. Definitely won't be buying anything from them moving forward.

What shop?

[Outdoor Legacy]

Originally Posted by gingib

Placing my order today.....company told me 6-7 months

Individual or trust?

I bought mine in February from Capitol Armory, check cashed in March. When I bought, everyone (not Capitol) was telling me 7-9 months. Looks like that's waaay out the window. Capitol is running 13-15 months now on a trust approval. Dang Feds.

From Capitol Armory updated 10-16-17
Currently receiving approvals from:

Paper Form 4 Trust / Corp *** - 07/28/16 - 09/7/16
Paper Form Individual - 11/28/16-04/11/17

[gingib]

Originally Posted by Outdoor Legacy

Individual or trust?

I bought mine in February from Capitol Armory, check cashed in March. When I bought, everyone (not Capitol) was telling me 7-9 months. Looks like that's waaay out the window. Capitol is running 13-15 months now on a trust approval. Dang Feds.

From Capitol Armory updated 10-16-17
Currently receiving approvals from:

Paper Form 4 Trust / Corp *** - 07/28/16 - 09/7/16
Paper Form Individual - 11/28/16-04/11/17

Trust! CA told me 6-7 months with some seeing 10-11 months.

[Outdoor Legacy]

Originally Posted by gingib

Trust! CA told me 6-7 months with some seeing 10-11 months.

Man I sure hope they are right because I'm on month 7 since the check was cashed and by the looks of what they are reporting on their website, if I get mine in another 6 months, I'll be doing good. 10-11 months would be a dream right now, that would put me getting it around the New year. I'm not holding my breath, those dates on their website don't paint a pretty picture.

[ttubudd]

Form 4 trust submitted 10/6/2016. Still waiting.


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[ttubudd]

Originally Posted by ultralite09

Yuuupp. Sucks that it's my first too and I don't even get my actual stamp. Oh well, hate the way the shop handled the situation. Definitely won't be buying anything from them moving forward.

Sorry to hear that Dan! That sucks


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[hooligan]

Originally Posted by Outdoor Legacy

Man I sure hope they are right because I'm on month 7 since the check was cashed and by the looks of what they are reporting on their website, if I get mine in another 6 months, I'll be doing good. 10-11 months would be a dream right now, that would put me getting it around the New year. I'm not holding my breath, those dates on their website don't paint a pretty picture.

10months would put me getting mine in about 2 weeks so I have my fingers crossed for that!

[Outdoor Legacy]

Originally Posted by ttubudd

Form 4 trust submitted 10/6/2016. Still waiting.


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Ugh!! That makes me want to cry.

[gingib]

Buddy bought his July 29. Dealer called today and his is approved. Just needs stamp mailed back from ATF. He said company told him should have by Christmas.

5-6 months pretty legit

[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by gingib

Buddy bought his July 29. Dealer called today and his is approved. Just needs stamp mailed back from ATF. He said company told him should have by Christmas.

5-6 months pretty legit

I am still on Pending from 2/2017

[gingib]

Originally Posted by Outbreaker

I am still on Pending from 2/2017

Trust? Who you order from?

He went cheap online trust and bought from Silencer Shop

[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by gingib

Trust? Who you order from?

He went cheap online trust and bought from Silencer Shop

Trust, Silencer Shop and not first purchase.

His is a fluke. That is also from cashed check, not order so the dealer is for the most part out of the wait time at that point.

[Moose]

Just checked on mine, it shows ordered 3/10/17 (trust) and Capitol Armory shows status as "Form 4 Mailed." Guess It's going to be a while....

[txhunter90]

Originally Posted by gingib

Buddy bought his July 29. Dealer called today and his is approved. Just needs stamp mailed back from ATF. He said company told him should have by Christmas.

5-6 months pretty legit

So his form 4 is approved and all he is waiting on is the stamp to be mailed to him from the ATF? Just making sure I am reading it right, if so it only took a week to get stamp from date it was approved from atf.

[Outbreaker]

Originally Posted by txhunter90

So his form 4 is approved and all he is waiting on is the stamp to be mailed to him from the ATF? Just making sure I am reading it right, if so it only took a week to get stamp from date it was approved from atf.

My ATF stamps routinely take 4 weeks.

[35remington]

Originally Posted by gingib

Buddy bought his July 29. Dealer called today and his is approved. Just needs stamp mailed back from ATF. He said company told him should have by Christmas.

5-6 months pretty legit

July 29, 2017 on a trust?

I won't believe that unless I see a picture of the stamp and the application.

[KDinTX]

Originally Posted by 35remington

July 29, 2017 on a trust?

I won't believe that unless I see a picture of the stamp and the application.

This.

Prolly individual, have seen several of those come back quick, but trust are still backed up. There a random chance trust get back quicker but they are rare.

[txfireguy2003]

Has anyone figured out a legitimate reason why trusts are taking so much longer? Are they just not processing them?

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[gingib]

Originally Posted by txhunter90

So his form 4 is approved and all he is waiting on is the stamp to be mailed to him from the ATF? Just making sure I am reading it right, if so it only took a week to get stamp from date it was approved from atf.

Originally Posted by 35remington

July 29, 2017 on a trust?

I won't believe that unless I see a picture of the stamp and the application.

Yes this is what he said. His FFL called him and informed him.

I was shocked also.

Let me confirm it is trust and not individual and not trust. But coulda sworn he told me he went the super cheap online trust route

[gingib]

Yes it was a trust. Another person I know ordered in Feb and got his almost 2 months ago