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Old 01-23-2018, 01:52 PM   #1
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After 6 years of no hogs at our lease they showed up last season and have stuck around. I now have a group that consists of a sow and 10 piglets that show up every night at sundown. I know many of you despise hogs but I like the idea of having them around and here's why.
They haven't (yet) done any damage to my feeder. They clean up all corn after the sun goes down which doesn't allow any deer to come by at night for a snack. I have actually seen more deer during light hours than ever before at our place and I think this is due to the fact that there isn't any corn on the ground for nocturnal feedings.
My question is this, if I shoot the sow, would the piglets continue their routine and come back? If I shoot a piglet would the sow return? I know I'll get the kill all pigs response but I really don't mind having them around and have seen no issues that they've created.
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:54 PM   #2
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If you kill 2 out of a group of 10, 15 will survive.
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:56 PM   #3
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If you kill 2 out of a group of 10, 15 will survive.
Annnnnd now I'm cleaning water off of my monitor. Thanks.

I don't see other adults with any regularity. I just don't want to scatter them.
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I would be shooting as many piglets as possible and see how that goes. If it starts getting out of hand, smoke the sow.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:00 PM   #5
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just remember. 3 times a year is how often they can give birth to a batch of piglets.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:01 PM   #6
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Kill the sow, then kill the piglets. Piglets will stick around till they get bigger.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:02 PM   #7
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I had a similar situation a few years ago. Shot the sow first. The piglets stayed in the same routine for several weeks allowing me to kill most of them. This was with a bow so don't know if rifle would give the same results or not.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:03 PM   #8
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Piglets are about 2-3 months old by now and growing fast. At what age can they begin to reproduce?
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:04 PM   #9
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If you want hogs, just keep feeding them. You'll have hogs. Three or four years from now, think back and see if you still want hogs........
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:07 PM   #10
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If you kill 2 out of a group of 10, 15 will survive.
I can't argue with the math here, it looks sound.

I too feel as you do but if they stay they will get out of hand.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:08 PM   #11
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The way it works for us is we shoot a couple, they all disappear for about a month, then they come back with more. We shoot a few, they leave, they come back with more.... and so on..
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:11 PM   #12
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Today.....I wish I had hogs.

Next Month........Yeah.....I have hogs but I am a not wanting to get rid of them.

6 months later........I only want to shoot 1 or 2.

Next year.......I am over run with hogs......how do I trap them.

Seriously, shoot them early and often. You have to remove 80% a year to get 0% growth and you will never do that. Shoot suppressed.

3 litters a year with 8-10 piglets. First litter will litter by the end of the year.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:12 PM   #13
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If you want hogs, just keep feeding them. You'll have hogs. Three or four years from now, think back and see if you still want hogs........
THIS is the thought that's hanging in the back of my mind.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:15 PM   #14
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You may think you want hogs now but as mentioned in a few yrs you will despise the bastages!!! Kill the SOW now and then work on the piglets.
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I suggest 12 guage with 000 or 0000 buck and go Rambo on them, starting with the sow....
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:21 PM   #16
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Just think of how nice of a hog lease you'll have a year from now.

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Old 01-23-2018, 02:22 PM   #17
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Hate to tell you this, but you have hogs. They aren't going anywhere. Shoot them all, they will still show up. You now have them forever. Even if you think you shot them all, you didn't. More will show up.
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I would be shooting as many piglets as possible and see how that goes. If it starts getting out of hand, smoke the sow.
This. Split those piglets down the back and slap them on the smoker. You can thank me later.

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Hate to tell you this, but you have hogs. They aren't going anywhere. Shoot them all, they will still show up. You now have them forever. Even if you think you shot them all, you didn't. More will show up.
There are 2 types of lands in Texas

1. Those that are fighting the hog invasion.
2. Those that are preparing for the hog invasion.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:31 PM   #20
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I may need to ask the mods to delete this thread so there isn't a written record of this in a year or two when I'm ****** off like the rest of you.

Maybe I just have a more refined group of pigs...very considerate and great guests.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:32 PM   #21
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Shoot sow with bow. When piglets come back shoot them with 00 buck shot. Should be able to get several and shoot the rest running off.

They can start reproducing at 5-6 months old, so they will multiply fast.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:35 PM   #22
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I had 2 groups well over 50 pigs in each last August. Have killed 15 or so and neighbors have done the same. Still have a group of 40+ and they are dropping piglets left and right. They will always be here and that doesn't bother me. I just shoot them any given opportunity!

Piglets will return, sow will return. Just shoot or trap them when you can. When I have heavy daylight activity and kill 1-2 they tend to go nocturnal for a couple weeks.
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If they get out of hand your deer population will twindle just fair warning!
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:38 PM   #24
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What size do y'all think the sow is? Those feeder legs are 8'.

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Old 01-23-2018, 02:42 PM   #25
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All those are shooting size. You will never get rid of them all so shoot as many as you can.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:05 PM   #27
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There are 2 types of lands in Texas

1. Those that are fighting the hog invasion.
2. Those that are preparing for the hog invasion.
Not true. There have been hogs in Bend Tx for 25+ years. We are not over run and we don't even shoot many or trap at all. 7 feeders go year round also.

Hogs only overpopulate in areas where they thrive, not all over the place.
And why is this "invasion" taking 30 years? If they multiply 1/2 as fast as you guys say they would have covered the world 3x over by now.
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What size do y'all think the sow is? Those feeder legs are 8'.

If that's the only group you're seeing I'd pick off one small one once in a while. Depending on the size of the ranch hogs are fairly easy to chase off contrary to most people's opinions. I'm talking about west of I-35 East is a different ball game.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:11 PM   #29
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If you kill 2 out of a group of 10, 15 will survive.
I literally laughed out loud at this...and I definitely can't argue with the math.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:13 PM   #30
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They are delicious, especially the small ones. 7 hours at 225 degrees, be it oven, smoker, or grill.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:13 PM   #31
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I havenít seen a hog out of my stand in 3 years. Figured they had moved on. Let my nephew and brother sit my stand last weekend. Well. Got some business to take care of.
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If you kill 2 out of a group of 10, 15 will survive.
Best assessment of the hog pop I have read.

Advice to the OP - kill em. Kill em all. I had that same passing thought 15 years ago... and after killing 168 one year and 174 the following year... we only killed 72 so far this year and it is worse.
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We have 400 acres in atascosa co. We rarely shoot sows and primarily focus on the big boars. Maybe kill a total of 5 pigs a year. The population never changes and we have never been "over run" with hogs. Often times they totally disappear for a month at a time. Let them populate, they are fun and taste better than deer anyways.
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Annnnnd now I'm cleaning water off of my monitor. Thanks.

I don't see other adults with any regularity. I just don't want to scatter them.
There's a boar somewhere. In my experience, (depending on age/maturity) the piglets will usually stick with their routine if you kill the sow. Try to shoot them all- you won't get rid of them.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:47 PM   #36
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Shoot the sow. Then enjoy taking the pigs out gradually.

Out atascosa lease was covered in hogs. Right on the river.
Not unusual to see large groups of hogs.
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"Yet" is the key word on feeder damage.
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Shoot the sow and pull her away from the feeder. Lay her on her side like she was nursing the piglets. Come back early in morning with shotgun and you should be able to get three of the piglets trying to nurse.
This works very well. I know.

Also you got a boar passing thru, you just aint seen it yet.
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Shoot everyone you see and you will still have a hog problem!��
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I vote for the best of quote of 18 so far
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:46 PM   #41
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I havenít seen a hog out of my stand in 3 years. Figured they had moved on. Let my nephew and brother sit my stand last weekend. Well. Got some business to take care of.
That white one would be going on the smoker if I were sitting in the blind
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Kill them all now. Breed at 5 months old and 3 litters a year if you don't kill all of them now you will regret it later. They will keep the deer away from your feeders and you will have to put deer pens up to keep those nasty hogs from stinking up your deer feeders that deer won't show up. I can remember 25 years or so Ago thinking oh look some wild hogs that's cool. Now they have put my domestic pig farm out of operation and destroys thousands of dollars of pastures and hay fields a year. Kill all of them now before they get out of hand.
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I've never had a feeder damaged by pigs but then again I don't use cheap plastic barrel types and I know how to set up to avoid issues.

I've been on leases where there was good pig hunting. The one I'm on I was told I would get tired of wasting arrows on them the first season there were so many. Four seasons later I still don't see enough to make me happy.

Most places that have pigs don't have a pig problem. I've only been on one place in 30 years that had more pigs than you could kill. That was near Nacogdoches. And I've been a few places where they did nothing but complain about how many there were.

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I've never had a feeder damaged by pigs but then again I don't use cheap plastic barrel types and I know how to set up to avoid issues.

I've been on leases where there was good pig hunting. The one I'm on I was told I would get tired of wasting arrows on them the first season there were so many. Four seasons later I still don't see enough to make me happy.

Most places that have pigs don't have a pig problem. I've only been on one place in 30 years that had more pigs than you could kill. That was near Nacogdoches. And I've been a few places where they did nothing but complain about how many there were.

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I have feral pigs and its a constant battle. Rooting up pasture land, rooting up crops, destroying water tanks, and digging under fences. Hay fields so tore up it cannot be baled.

Your more than welcome to come down here and take a look for your self, I can promise you I have feral pigs and we have a feral pig problem.

The state must recognize a problem, why else would they be looking at poison.

The San Antonio River Authority must recognize a problem, why else would they talk about land erosion and E coli in the river.

The Cattlemens Assoc. must recognize it, why else would they have guest speakers and seminars on feral pig destruction.

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Old 01-23-2018, 10:34 PM   #45
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I have feral pigs and its a constant battle. Rooting up pasture land, rooting up crops, destroying water tanks, and digging under fences. Hay fields so tore up it cannot be baled.

Your more than welcome to come down here and take a look for your self, I can promise you I have feral pigs and we have a feral pig problem.

The state must recognize a problem, why else would they be looking at poison.

The San Antonio River Authority must recognize a problem, why else would they talk about land erosion and E coli in the river.

The Cattlemens Assoc. must recognize it, why else would they have guest speakers and seminars on feral pig destruction.


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Dang, you can sit in camp blasting away at them.
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Dang! That is a pack of porkers!


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Dang, you can sit in camp blasting away at them.
Exactly what I was thinking, lol
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I've never had a feeder damaged by pigs but then again I don't use cheap plastic barrel types and I know how to set up to avoid issues.

I've been on leases where there was good pig hunting. The one I'm on I was told I would get tired of wasting arrows on them the first season there were so many. Four seasons later I still don't see enough to make me happy.

Most places that have pigs don't have a pig problem. I've only been on one place in 30 years that had more pigs than you could kill. That was near Nacogdoches. And I've been a few places where they did nothing but complain about how many there were.

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It all depends on the location. But everyone ignores this fact. For some reason they will swear until they die that pigs are taking over the planet.
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