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Originally posted by Landrover View PostRanch owner, hunter, oil man, Texan guess he was not going to be a YES man for anyone..........or calling your boss a moron can make for a shaky relationship!
Who's next Gen. H. R. McMaster or Jeff Session
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Originally posted by stykshooter View PostNot surprised, makes about 40 administration fired or resigned, don't feel sorry for Tillerson Exxon was paying him 21 million per year.
Who's next Gen. H. R. McMaster or Jeff Session
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I'am with you Charlie...... "nail meet hammer", as he works at the pleasure of the president. I am just replaying how this was the PERFECT person for this role less than a year ago........and I agreed after listening to folks here that follow that industry. Basically based on getting back to drilling our own energy! Now it ain't a big deal? Gotta be more to the story, right? Maybe not.
Originally posted by JonBoy View PostIt's a double edged sword...hard to get any sort of traction or cohesion as an administration when your turnover is 4X higher than your average Wal-Mart
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Originally posted by J Sweet View PostYes, we should follow the example of the past few admins. Obama was a great President. So was Bush, lets keep status quo.
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“I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man".
And now Trump is going to personally meet with Kim? Yeah, that's like your boss telling you that your idea is idiotic, taking credit for it a week later, and firing you the following week. I sure wouldn't want to be Secretary of State, not that Tillerson was any good at it. Hell, the US hasn't had a good Secretary of State since...George Shultz.Last edited by sir shovelhands; 03-13-2018, 09:33 PM.
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Originally posted by sir shovelhands View PostMaybe they were just better at picking guys who did what they wanted. Problem is, it's hard to figure out what Trump wants from week to week on just about any topic that isn't taxes, tariffs, or the wall. For instance, take this quote from Trump on Oct. 1, 2017:
“I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man".
And now Trump is going to personally meet with Kim? Yeah, that's like your boss telling you that your idea is idiotic, taking credit for it a week later, and firing you the following week. I sure wouldn't want to be Secretary of State, not that Tillerson was any good at it. Hell, the US hasn't had a good Secretary of State since...George Shultz.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostTrump didn't approach NK. NK is the one who blinked. Not a good example.
I'd say there three possible outcomes of negotiations:
1: If no agreement happens, then it makes Kim look powerful at home and abroad (in his mind), because he met as an equal with the leader of the most powerful country in the world. Whereas Trump will be embarrassed for having wasted his time.
2: If something does come out of it, Kim will get the same benefits as before, but also a deal where he gets sanctions lifted, while probably still trying to move their nuke program forward in secret as they've done before. Then we're back to square one, and Trump looks even worse than the no-agreement situation.
3: A miracles happens and Trump bullies them into legitimately giving up their nukes, Trump looks like a genius diplomat and cements his legacy. Kim still looks powerful, stays in power, and gets sanctions lifted. That'd be great, but I think it the least likely scenario given NK's history of honoring deals.
I agree with Trump's first take on the matter, negotiating with Kim is a waste of time. Just like it has been for the last 33 years.
Secret option 4: Trump assassinates Kim and everyone wins...except for Kim.
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