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Originally posted by Big Al View Post.” A new social contract is needed, he said, that explores universal income, affordable child care and a health care system where citizens are not tied to one employer;
In other words, this billionaire elitist believes we the tax payer should be flipping the bill for more welfare! Hey Zuckerberg, how about you, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and the rest of you Socialist idiots giving up 99% for your money to finance your welfare dreams!
I guess that's what happens when you have more money than God.
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Originally posted by Pedernal View PostOnly thing I want to know is will this pad my retirement funds by 10K/year??
Hard to imagine someone stupid enough to think we can just give all stupid people free money and those stupid people will then not be lazy but instead be productive. Wow!
Why not just make it 1 million so we can all be millionaires?
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Originally posted by jerp View PostThe idea is they would first do away with all other safety net programs - welfare, food stamps, etc. Even with that, the studies I have read say it would only be revenue neutral if there was a phase-out of the benefit at some income level, so it would not be anywhere near "Universal." Like many progressive ideas it sounds good "in theory". The extra income could free people up to pursue their dreams and what they have a passion for. In theory this could unleash all kinds of hidden genius. (maybe?)
There are multiple downsides, IMO. First of all it fundamentally changes the relationship between the citizen and the state. We already have a sizable percentage of the population that sees the government as the provider of their needs. Do we want to expand that to everybody? Like many progressive ideas the flaw is due to their misunderstanding of basic human nature. When giving the chance, many, many people will take the path of least resistance - doing the least amount of work possible to get their basic needs met. It also cheapens the value of work. Any work - no matter how humble - builds character. Being self reliant adds meaning, purpose and a sense of self worth. Living off the labor of others - whether from inheritance or welfare - often magnifies the worst aspects of human nature.
It is hard to be sucessful. It is hard to actually make it as a.singer, golfer etc ( alluding to previous posts ). The reason it is hard is to weed out the weak, undedicated and soft. Thd struggle MAKES you into what is required for that job. It is the struggle that creates sucessful people. Yes, we need opportunity, but without the knowlege, skill and experience to capitalize on the opportunity we will fail.and the opportunity wasted!
These foolish ideas come from minds that do not understand nature or human nature. Their minds are immature and foolish.
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Originally posted by topshot View PostI think what he is going for is this: many people are in the race to make ends meet, stuck doing jobs that they hate, and aren't good at, unable to pursue the jobs that they have natural giftings to do. not because they don't want to work and produce goods, but because they are stuck in a cycle of debt and cannot escape that to pursue the work that they would truly excel in, and find interesting, which would INCREASE productivity and quality since there would be passion behind their work.
I doubt he is saying we should give 10k to lazy people who don't want to do anything...
I'm all for empowering people to step into their true callings in life, it will produce far more benefits to the culture than people drudging on in their day to day monotony.
is his method the right one...i dont know.
ask yourself this question, Do I love what I do day-to-day and feel like I am helping to make the world a better place through my contributions at work?
if not - wouldn't you love the opportunity to shift into a position doing the thing you are gifted in, so you can grow and contribute to the world around you?
What percentage of Americans do you think actually think like that? In my opinion it is a very low number. So lets assume some actually would do.just what you suggested. Thats real nice, a small.gain in productivity from a small group of driven people. A group of people that are almost assuredly already productive due to their mindset. Then there is the large percentage ( an incredibly vast majority ) that sees it as another nice welfare check. How effective would that be?
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