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    Originally posted by sir shovelhands View Post
    Trump should be running all over capitol hill bullying, threatening, and cajoling the hell out of congress to fix healthcare. He bragged about being the worlds greatest deal maker, but I've yet to see it.

    If they fail to get ANY healthcare bill through, he'll have lost all his momentum already.
    Yep. Every time he tweets about some ridiculous and meaningless thing he loses a little more momentum. The political establishment is not going to do the right thing on its own. He's playing right into their hands by continuing his self-absorbed obsession with having everybody worship him.

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      Originally posted by Shane View Post
      If Trump would stop freaking out in childish Twitter rants about things that don't matter at all, he'd have a lot fewer enemies on the (R) side. He's so narcissistic in his obsessive need to be worshipped that he can't stay focused on what actually matters. Throwing his first and biggest loyalist (Sessions) under the bus in such a childish way lately is ruining his chances of getting anybody else to be loyal to him. Sessions gave up everything to help Trump get elected, and now look what it's gotten him. Trump is trashing Sessions for being weak on Hillary AFTER Trump already said that he didn't want to prosecute Hillary after all - which was after a campaign promise to lock her up.

      Which version of Trump is a guy supposed to be loyal to? And how is a guy supposed to know when it's time to switch and be loyal to the other version of Trump?

      Tillerson is now talking about resigning soon, and I'm sure most people who would be really good to have in cabinet positions are going to be less and less inclined to sign up to work in that crazy environment.

      Gorsuch was a huge win. Props to Trump for that. But he's shot himself in the foot on every other promise. Yes, there are RINOs in Congress that are huge obstacles. But the way Trump has handled the Obamacare issue has made it worse. He campaigned on repealing Obamacare, but replacing it with something that was essentially the same thing. He worked with Paul Ryan and the RINOs to do just that at first. He demonized the conservatives who actually wanted to repeal Obamacare and get away from a big government health insurance system. Now he's tweeting about how we need to do exactly what the conservatives wanted to do all along and repeal Obamacare and then work on the replacement after that. It's no wonder the Republicans in Congress are in such disarray. It's impossible to keep up with which way is the leadership wind is blowing from day to day.

      And what about all the regulations that we're supposed to be getting rid of that could be done through executive orders and government agencies in the Executive Branch simply changing them? NOTHING being done. Most of the agencies are still staffed with Obama era people, because the White House won't approve anybody for appointment to those positions unless they feel like the person being nominated is a big enough Trump worshipper. So the result is that Obama's people continue to either run most things or remain in positions that allow them to keep any change from being implemented.

      All the craziness and obsession over things that don't matter is frustrating. We need some action and leadership and consistency and focus.
      While I accepted Trump's victory and wish for nothing but trampling success over the Socialists, this sort or come-apart is why I could not vote for him. I still hope he pulls it together and crams a good one up the bung hole of our political and National enemies and does right by our Country. We have time. After the last 8 years of the Narcissist in Chief, I still hold out hope.

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        Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post
        While I accepted Trump's victory and wish for nothing but trampling success over the Socialists, this sort or come-apart is why I could not vote for him. I still hope he pulls it together and crams a good one up the bung hole of our political and National enemies and does right by our Country. We have time. After the last 8 years of the Narcissist in Chief, I still hold out hope.
        Yes sir. Getting Gorsuch is already more success than I expected, and I'm happy about that. But other than that, it's all been pretty much what I expected he'd be. I'm still hoping for more success. I'd love to see him put an end to all the nonsense and just get down to business.
        Last edited by Shane; 07-25-2017, 06:31 PM.

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          Sessions has done nothing so far. Here's a theory:
          Sessions is weak
          Trump says Tweet to **** of Sessions so he quits
          Trump hires new AG that'll actually do his job & get a bunch of dem's thrown in prison
          America wins
          Yes/no?

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            Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
            Sessions has done nothing so far. Here's a theory:
            Sessions is weak
            Trump says Tweet to **** of Sessions so he quits
            Trump hires new AG that'll actually do his job & get a bunch of dem's thrown in prison
            America wins
            Yes/no?
            I like your theory; hope it's true.

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              Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
              Sessions has done nothing so far. Here's a theory:
              Sessions is weak
              Trump says Tweet to **** of Sessions so he quits
              Trump hires new AG that'll actually do his job & get a bunch of dem's thrown in prison
              America wins
              Yes/no?
              That's not what's going on. Sessions isn't weak at all. He was the only major Republican to support Trump at first. He gave up his powerful position in the Senate for Trump, because he believed Trump would build the wall and be tough on illegal immigration and all the other stuff. And Sessions hasn't pursued Hillary because Trump said at the beginning of his presidency that he didn't want to hurt the Clintons and he wasn't going to investigate them after all.

              What's going on is Trump wants to fire the special prosecutor, Mueller. Mueller was hired by Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General that Trump appointed to serve under Sessions. Rosenstein is the guy that wrote the memo that gave Trump a reason to fire James Comey. When Sessions had to recuse himself in the Russia investigation, leadership fell to Rosenstein. Since Rosenstein was the guy that wrote the memo that said Comey should be fired when Comey started the Russia investigation, he isn't going to turn around and fire the special prosecutor that he hired to be the impartial investigator into the matter.

              But Trump wants Mueller gone. His best chance of seeing that happen is to throw Sessions under the bus, nominate somebody who will carry Trump's water on anything and everything to be the new Attorney General and then somehow get that person confirmed by the Senate. Then that new AG will take charge and fire Mueller. That's what Trump is trying to do. He probably won't be able to get it done, because it just looks too fishy. It's making him look guilty of something. Maybe he isn't, but it makes him look guilty.

              He should have fired Comey on day 1, before any Russia investigation or anything else was going on. Comey was terrible and an obvious hack for Obama and Hillary and the Democrats. He should have been gone immediately. And even after Trump missed that opportunity, he should have ignored all the Russia stuff and just stayed focused on getting things done. The more he whines and complains about the investigation stuff, the more guilty he looks and the more energy the investigation takes on. He's pretty much brought it on himself. The Democrats are gonna sling mud 24/7/365. He should ignore it and work proactively on doing all the stuff he said he'd do. If he had more successes like Gorsuch under his belt while ignoring the Russia mess, he'd be way ahead and the Russia stuff would lose steam.

              But it's looking more and more like there's something there that he's hiding. The other day when he warned Mueller to NOT investigate his family's finances pertaining to Russia, he really screwed up again. That was just like somebody who hid something in the closet say, "Whatever you do, do NOT open that closet door!". Duh! The next day, Mueller started investigating his finances. They're probably going to find something that is really embarrassing at best, if not downright bad. The more Trump tweets and whines, the more guilty he looks, and the longer and broader the investigation will become....and the less momentum Trump will have to get positive things accomplished.

              We may end up with President Pence before it's over. Hopefully not, as that whole process would all but guarantee Democrat victories in the next election or three. It'd be way better if Trump would somehow be able to focus on the right stuff and get this Russia mess put to bed. It's not looking promising for that to happen right now though.
              Last edited by Shane; 07-25-2017, 07:02 PM.

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                The Trump drama never stops...

                Sessions is milk toast weak sauce. Get him out of there and lets continue to watch all these slimeball politicians and media types squirm in their seats.

                Not Hillary is President guys. Thats a good thing. Dont believe all the hype. Sessions has been a horrible AG.

                Either pushing the war on MJ or increasing civil asset forfeiture power of the federal govt alone is enough to send him packing.


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                Last edited by Ætheling; 07-25-2017, 08:07 PM.

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                  Originally posted by Shane View Post
                  That's not what's going on. Sessions isn't weak at all. He was the only major Republican to support Trump at first. He gave up his powerful position in the Senate for Trump, because he believed Trump would build the wall and be tough on illegal immigration and all the other stuff. And Sessions hasn't pursued Hillary because Trump said at the beginning of his presidency that he didn't want to hurt the Clintons and he wasn't going to investigate them after all.

                  What's going on is Trump wants to fire the special prosecutor, Mueller. Mueller was hired by Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General that Trump appointed to serve under Sessions. Rosenstein is the guy that wrote the memo that gave Trump a reason to fire James Comey. When Sessions had to recuse himself in the Russia investigation, leadership fell to Rosenstein. Since Rosenstein was the guy that wrote the memo that said Comey should be fired when Comey started the Russia investigation, he isn't going to turn around and fire the special prosecutor that he hired to be the impartial investigator into the matter.

                  But Trump wants Mueller gone. His best chance of seeing that happen is to throw Sessions under the bus, nominate somebody who will carry Trump's water on anything and everything to be the new Attorney General and then somehow get that person confirmed by the Senate. Then that new AG will take charge and fire Mueller. That's what Trump is trying to do. He probably won't be able to get it done, because it just looks too fishy. It's making him look guilty of something. Maybe he isn't, but it makes him look guilty.




                  Agreed!
                  Do you not realize you just said what I said in my theory but yours was the long, drawn out version?

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                    Sessions was a great senator but doesn't have the fight in him to be a great AG. Trump needs a ball busting, serial arsonist streetfighter in the AG role, not an elder statesman. Cruz would be ideal if he would take the job.

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                      I don't see lyin' Ted taking the AG job. He's got more sense than that.

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                        Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
                        Agreed!
                        Do you not realize you just said what I said in my theory but yours was the long, drawn out version?
                        Trump doesn't want to fire Sessions so he can nominate a new AG to prosecute Democrats. Trump wants to find a way to get rid of the special prosecutor that's investigating him.

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                          Originally posted by 100%TtId View Post
                          Sessions was a great senator but doesn't have the fight in him to be a great AG. Trump needs a ball busting, serial arsonist streetfighter in the AG role, not an elder statesman. Cruz would be ideal if he would take the job.
                          You should have called trump and told him this before he made that Sessions pick.
                          LoL

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                            Originally posted by Shane View Post
                            Trump doesn't want to fire Sessions so he can nominate a new AG to prosecute Democrats. Trump wants to find a way to get rid of the special prosecutor that's investigating him.
                            But why would he not want to get rid of that guy? He is a political hack the same as Comey loyal to the Clintons and Obamas. The money trail has been proven over and over again. The guy isn't investigating anything, he is on a witch hunt to discredit.

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                              Sessions screwed Trump and on purpose as he as aligned himself with his crony politician friends. He recuses himself leaving acting AG Andrew McCabe in charge of appointing a prosecutor over Trump. This is the same guy who's wife took 700K USD for her campaign form the Clintons and didn't disclose and is supposed to be under criminal investigation for such. Now its oh poor Jeff Sessions, come on. Sessions stood out of the way on purpose so that they could attempt to take Trump down. I will now insert the cliché of I didn't support Trump in the primaries but every time I see some career corrupt POS politician trying to destroy the POTUS its a personal attack to me and it should be to all of you. They are showing that they don't care about the Constitution or a democratically held election. They are in charge and you all are sheep that can die and suffer for all they care as long as they get that sweet taste of power and money. Wake up.

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                                Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                                But why would he not want to get rid of that guy? He is a political hack the same as Comey loyal to the Clintons and Obamas. The money trail has been proven over and over again. The guy isn't investigating anything, he is on a witch hunt to discredit.
                                I'm not a fan of Mueller's or the whole Russia investigation mess. I'm just saying that Trump made mistakes that contributed toward creating the mess, and now he's flailing about trying to make it go away - and it isn't working.

                                I'm pretty disgusted with all but about 4 or 5 people in Washington, D.C.. They all SUCK. None of them care a lick about doing what's right for the country. The federal government, at every level, has way too much power. It's clear now that we can't fix it by electing different people and sending them there. The whole system has been corrupted beyond repair. The best fix is the Convention of States effort to amend the Constitution in order for the states and the citizens to take the power back and put some serious limits on federal government power.

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