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Old 04-02-2019, 05:20 AM   #1
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My Blue Lacy isn't feeling good for some reason so before I drop cash at the vet I decided to question the green screen.

Ramadi - the dog - is lethargic, doesn't want to run around and didn't eat his food last evening. I'm assuming he ate something that maybe he shouldn't have. Day before yesterday I saw him gnawing on an old deer hoof which isn't unusual considering but I hadn't given him a leg to chew on for sometime. I thing he hid this leg and then found it again about two weeks later.

He's not vomiting and hasn't had any unusual bowel movements that I know of.

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My dog was just doing that we started to give a new kind of dog food. It seems to be working


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Thanks. I'm not sure it's the dog food in this case. He's been eating Victors for a few years plus the bag isn't new. Personally I think he dug up an old deer hoof that got him sick. I'm looking at home remedies. When he got popped by a copperhead the green screen recommended benadryl which worked perfectly.
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Could be heart worms
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Could be heart worms
Thanks. He is lethargic but doesn't have the other symptoms - plus he's been on good prevention.
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Good to hear. You didn't mention it so I was throwing that out there
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How old is he? Pull his eyelids back and look for yellowing in the sclera area. Our dog had the exact same symptoms starting 2 weeks ago. Took her to the vet and her liver values were off considerably. After 2 days of IV she started to do better and is eating a lot better now. She's on Hills Prescription Liver Diet right now. I think she got into something too, but after an ultrasound, the vet ran test yesterday for Cushings Disease. We'll see the results in a day or so. I would recommend beading to the vet if be doesn't improve after 2 days.
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How old is he? Pull his eyelids back and look for yellowing in the sclera area. Our dog had the exact same symptoms starting 2 weeks ago. Took her to the vet and her liver values were off considerably. After 2 days of IV she started to do better and is eating a lot better now. She's on Hills Prescription Liver Diet right now. I think she got into something too, but after an ultrasound, the vet ran test yesterday for Cushings Disease. We'll see the results in a day or so. I would recommend beading to the vet if be doesn't improve after 2 days.
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Could be Kidney failure..Its pretty common in old dogs..could be that deer foot some sort of food poisoning... The dogs I been around that had heart worms Coughed lots...
my dog loves Cat Scat and when he finds some and eats it he gets lethargic and don't wana eat and spits up...couple days hes's fine..Sure glad he don't find it often..we ain't got a cat.....nasty!!!!
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Could be Kidney failure..Its pretty common in old dogs..could be that deer foot some sort of food poisoning... The dogs I been around that had heart worms Coughed lots...
my dog loves Cat Scat and when he finds some and eats it he gets lethargic and don't wana eat and spits up...couple days hes's fine..Sure glad he don't find it often..we ain't got a cat.....nasty!!!!
Thanks. He just urinated and had a bowel movement which looked normal. He doesn't want to eat or drink though.
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He ran around a little but didn't want to drink water.
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Kidneys / dehydration. Sounds like what happened to my lab.
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Kidneys / dehydration. Sounds like what happened to my lab.
What's the cause?
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Possibly ate some mushrooms in the yard?
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Grab him by the knap of the neck and pinch into the shape of a pup tent. Once you remove your hand see if it drops back down. If it doesn't he is dehydrated. You can also push down on his gums with a finger until if turns white. When you remove the pressure it should turn bright pink in less than a second. This will also show dehydration.
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I am with most on here. It sounds like something digested. My Lacy has had issues with rotten meat.....but usually gets the runs and vomits it up. Do you have rodent or bug killer traps out? Fertilize the yard lately?
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Grab him by the knap of the neck and pinch into the shape of a pup tent. Once you remove your hand see if it drops back down. If it doesn't he is dehydrated. You can also push down on his gums with a finger until if turns white. When you remove the pressure it should turn bright pink in less than a second. This will also show dehydration.
Thanks. Now he is vomiting a white foam
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I am with most on here. It sounds like something digested. My Lacy has had issues with rotten meat.....but usually gets the runs and vomits it up. Do you have rodent or bug killer traps out? Fertilize the yard lately?
I don't have any poison or bug killer. I do have some natural fertilizer made from chicken droppings but I have had that product for a long time and it's inshed.
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gonna take him to the vet. Now we need to find one near College Station
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gonna take him to the vet. Now we need to find one near College Station
Try briarcrest veterinarian. The guy was amazing on our PD K-9s.
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Kidney failure / disease/ cancer. It was terminal. We changed his diet and it helped, but he slowly went down hill.
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PM Kdub he had a lacy act like this earlier this year and I think they finally decided it was from a tick bite. I think his might had been worse than yours though.
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Try briarcrest veterinarian. The guy was amazing on our PD K-9s.
BAHAHAHAHA... I worked here... He has you fooled GOOD. I could tell you some CRAZY stories. I walked away from the job because I couldn't be associated with those kind of ethics and the way he practiced/allowed his techs to practice
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BAHAHAHAHA... I worked here... He has you fooled GOOD. I could tell you some CRAZY stories. I walked away from the job because I couldn't be associated with those kind of ethics and the way he practiced/allowed his techs to practice
You might want to be careful what you say about a business online nowadays. Slander has landed A LOT of people in hot water and in debt. The fact that a LEO has had a good experience and contradicts your experiences is even more cause for caution

You "may" be 100% accurate, but it will cost you a ton of money to find out if a business feels threatened
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Thanks. He just urinated and had a bowel movement which looked normal. He doesn't want to eat or drink though.
Based on this, it doesn't sound very serious. You never know though.
Generally, anything too serious, is accompanied by more than just white foam, ie.., bloody stool, loss of bowels, loss of urinary functions, etc.
Sounds like it could be indigestion/acid reflux. Does he swallow a lot, burp?
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:56 AM   #26
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Like someone posted above, our 13 year old Aussie all of a sudden stopped eating and got real lethargic too. She was still drinking water and urinating. Took her to the vet. In a weeks time, it went fast and got worse quickly. Ended up being kidney failure. Didnt end up well. I hope your pup is ok.
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You might want to be careful what you say about a business online nowadays. Slander has landed A LOT of people in hot water and in debt. The fact that a LEO has had a good experience and contradicts your experiences is even more cause for caution

You "may" be 100% accurate, but it will cost you a ton of money to find out if a business feels threatened
Well he didn't slander the business. He just said he could tell you some stories.
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He finally drank water
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You might want to be careful what you say about a business online nowadays. Slander has landed A LOT of people in hot water and in debt. The fact that a LEO has had a good experience and contradicts your experiences is even more cause for caution

You "may" be 100% accurate, but it will cost you a ton of money to find out if a business feels threatened
Please... It is a can of worms he would NOT want opened. No legs to stand on in an argument.

I'm giving you the point of view of a guy who worked in the industry for multiple ppl. One of the last places I would go. But that's just one man's opinion, you do what you want
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My Lacy throws up almost every time she eats bones. Something about the excess stomach acid buildup to break down the bones. The bone chunks irritate the stomach lining and also causes her to eat grass. She also acts puny until all this has passed thru her. For that reason she don't get bones anymore. I do give her the cooked crispy pig ears on occasion but they make her farts ultra lethal.
My guess is once your dog has passed all the hoof and leg bones thru it's system she will be OK.

I also give mine the breath and teeth cleaning hard chews. They look like some sort of hard baked multi grain product. These treats don't upset her at all.

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You would notice if this was the case, but mine chewed up her bed one day and swallowed a lot of the stuffing. She got an obstruction and wouldn't do anything for days. Once it finally passed she was fine. That could be the issue w the leg bone/hoof.
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The store bought bones and chews always made my dog sick, vet told me only give her deer antlers to chew on. Been giving her them about 2 yers now without any more stomach issues.
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Sounds like a blockage due to something he swallowed.
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When my Lacy was a big pup, she acted like that so I took her to the vet. She had been eating possum poop and had a bacterial infection. Vet said it would have killed her if not taken care of. A few months later she started acting like that again and took her in again. She had an amoebic infection from catching and eating grass hoppers. A few months later, again. This time she had a gob of aluminum foil stuck in her gut Vet went up her but and pulled that out. A few months later, again. This time it was a plastic glove I used to clean a hog. I won't even bother with the bat story.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:51 AM   #36
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I had a really good hog dog that did something similar. I saw the white foam around her mouth on my way to work. Figured I take her to the vet after my shift that night. She died during the night. Sad stuff.
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Try giving your dog a kids chewable pepto bismol.
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Update: took my boy to the vet this morning. Vet can’t find what’s wrong. She put him on some fluids and meds. Negative blockage/negative heart worms / negative liver issues but high white blood cell count. She thinks the dog ate something. Kidney is an issue.
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Update: took my boy to the vet this morning. Vet canít find whatís wrong. She put him on some fluids and meds. Negative blockage/negative heart worms / negative liver issues but high white blood cell count. She thinks the dog ate something. Kidney is an issue.
Thanks for updat and prayers for a good outcome
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Thanks for updat and prayers for a good outcome
Hope to hear some good news later.
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Update:

Appears to be getting more energy. However, the vet thinks he ate something he shouldn't have like a toxic substance. She thinks maybe anit-freeze but I simply don't know if that's it. I haven't had anti-freeze out and I don't have neighbors in close proximity. It's possible that a vehicle could leak it but my F-250 is new, my wife's Tahoe doesn't leak. I do have some organic fertilizer that's based on chicken droppings.

She hasn't tested for kidney infection but will
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Mine has even kinda like that the last couple of days, think it may have been some old jerky I found in the freezer and gave to him. I guess old dogs are a lot like us old folks, the iron in the old stomach just not as cast as it used to be!
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Update:

Ramadi cam home on Friday - still not 100%. Yesterday we had to take him back for a checkup and his Blood Urine Nitrogen levels went back up; they were on a decline. Vet says he's still fighting the toxicity. The range for Blood Urine Nitrogen (BUN) should be between 1-27. His was 49 last Friday when I brought him home. It was 181 when we got to the vets yesterday but after some fluids it's at 98. The vet taught us how to give him fluids at home. It's kinda like a poor mans IV. The vet isn't sure why the BUN levels went up.
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Thanks for the updates. I'm still following. I have a Blue Lacy.
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That's funny two days ago I gave my Lacy a deer foreleg with hair and hoof, (she's had plenty)this one I found in the deep freeze it was 2.5 years old. Ever since I gave it to her she's been throwing up after she eats her dinner. But we also just switched her dog food to a salmon based dog food. Not sure what is going on but she seems to be fine until right after dinner. Hope yours keeps getting better.

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That's funny two days ago I gave my Lacy a deer foreleg with hair and hoof, (she's had plenty)this one I found in the deep freeze it was 2.5 years old. Ever since I gave it to her she's been throwing up after she eats her dinner. But we also just switched her dog food to a salmon based dog food. Not sure what is going on but she seems to be fine until right after dinner. Hope yours keeps getting better.
Thanks. It's like he aged 5 years
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Did they test him for Lymes?
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