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Old 10-02-2017, 03:10 PM   #1
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He's a 5x3 and has HUGE brows. I am having a hard time deciding if he's a 4 year old or a 5 year old. I know that tine length will hurt his overall score.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:14 PM   #2
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My thought is you should move your camera closer.
My other thought is he old enough
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:18 PM   #3
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Definitely old enough 5.5

Only one way to know for sure


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Old 10-02-2017, 03:19 PM   #4
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:20 PM   #5
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Most of the pics his legs still look kinda lanky long and lean, making me think he's no older than 4.5. Are you sure he's not 3.5? Hard to tell with the camera that far out.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:34 PM   #6
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I'd say smoke him!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:44 PM   #7
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If you are serious about managing, I wouldn't shoot that deer. Probably 4 or maybe 5. But would blow slap up next year. What most people don't get is that at 6 the deer body matures and after that all of the growth is in antlers. So mature is relative, to Most a 4 yr. old deer is a shooter, but at 4 a deer hasn't reached his maximum potential in body size and certainly not antler development.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:46 PM   #8
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:51 PM   #9
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My thought is you should move your camera closer.
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Most of the pics his legs still look kinda lanky long and lean, making me think he's no older than 4.5. Are you sure he's not 3.5? Hard to tell with the camera that far out.
I had that camera much closer, but the tree was a victim of Harvey. Still looking for a suitable replacement that isn't 10' from the feeder.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:51 PM   #10
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If you are serious about managing, I wouldn't shoot that deer. Probably 4 or maybe 5. But would blow slap up next year. What most people don't get is that at 6 the deer body matures and after that all of the growth is in antlers. So mature is relative, to Most a 4 yr. old deer is a shooter, but at 4 a deer hasn't reached his maximum potential in body size and certainly not antler development.
I agree. However, sadly, most of the time, the guy on the other side of the fence doesn't. It all depends about your specific situation as to what bucks you should pass and let go. When I am deciding whether or not to shoot a deer, it's never "Should I shoot him?". Instead it is, "if whoever is hunting across the fence saw him, would they shoot him?"
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:02 PM   #11
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I agree. However, sadly, most of the time, the guy on the other side of the fence doesn't. It all depends about your specific situation as to what bucks you should pass and let go. When I am deciding whether or not to shoot a deer, it's never "Should I shoot him?". Instead it is, "if whoever is hunting across the fence saw him, would they shoot him?"
But if you shoot him, the chances he makes it to become a giant next year are 0. If you let him slide, his chances increase dramatically. Just like the saying goes, if you are shooting a deer because "that" neighbor will shoot him if you don't, you basically become "that" neighbor. Not telling the man what to do, just giving my age opinion and you know what that is worth.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:08 PM   #12
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Most of the pics his legs still look kinda lanky long and lean, making me think he's no older than 4.5. Are you sure he's not 3.5? Hard to tell with the camera that far out.
Nope, I am not sure he isn't 3. As far as I can tell, I have never seen this buck but he has become a regular. Kind of why I was looking for input.

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If you are serious about managing, I wouldn't shoot that deer. Probably 4 or maybe 5. But would blow slap up next year. What most people don't get is that at 6 the deer body matures and after that all of the growth is in antlers. So mature is relative, to Most a 4 yr. old deer is a shooter, but at 4 a deer hasn't reached his maximum potential in body size and certainly not antler development.

The management side of me says the fact that he is 5x3 instead of 4x4 or 5x5 makes him less desirable. But I also understand letting them age in order to reach full potential. That is why I am on the fence.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:34 PM   #13
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:34 PM   #14
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I understand the thought of since he is a 5x3 you may want to take him out, but are you sure he isnt broke off? Im sure you have other pics, but I would make sure. I would let him walk. He is about 2 years away from being a beast.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:47 PM   #15
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I understand the thought of since he is a 5x3 you may want to take him out, but are you sure he isnt broke off? Im sure you have other pics, but I would make sure. I would let him walk. He is about 2 years away from being a beast.
Yes, I am sure he has not broken anything...yet. In the originals I can blow them up and zoom.
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:36 PM   #16
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That deer looks like a 5 yr old. What did he look like last year?
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:50 PM   #17
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That deer looks like a 5 yr old. What did he look like last year?
Not a clue. I can't match him to any others I had on camera in previous years.
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:57 PM   #18
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My thought is you should move your camera closer.
My other thought is he old enough
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:59 PM   #19
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:05 PM   #20
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That's an old deer.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:07 PM   #21
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Hard to tell with the distance but he looks at least 5 imo. Already has a big neck pre-rut, big shoulders, long body, definite sway in his back.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:56 PM   #22
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:11 PM   #23
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Y'all got me curious so I did some digging through last years pics and this is the closest thing I can find to possibly being him.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:06 AM   #24
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If he was a typical 4x4 8pt last year, I would wait another year on him. He would not be a shooter for me with that history.
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:13 AM   #25
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I agree. However, sadly, most of the time, the guy on the other side of the fence doesn't. It all depends about your specific situation as to what bucks you should pass and let go. When I am deciding whether or not to shoot a deer, it's never "Should I shoot him?". Instead it is, "if whoever is hunting across the fence saw him, would they shoot him?"


Sadly now you have become the neighbor you were just talking about


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Old 10-04-2017, 09:14 AM   #26
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That's him last year imo. Is 5 this year. Should recover and be better next year all the way around


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Old 10-04-2017, 12:00 PM   #27
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I had that camera much closer, but the tree was a victim of Harvey. Still looking for a suitable replacement that isn't 10' from the feeder.
Move it to that t post forward and left of the camera
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:52 PM   #28
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My other thought is he old enough
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:52 PM   #29
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I would give him another year.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:08 PM   #30
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So far the count is:

Whack him - 8

Walk him - 6

Move camera - 5, lol

We'll have to see if he cooperates and shows up when I am in the stand so I can make a final determination.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:16 PM   #31
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- 4.5, more potential
- walk him if you have potential shooters in the area
- Camera move - yes
- Have fun whatever you decide
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:09 AM   #32
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Give him another year
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:18 AM   #33
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I see a 5x4.
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