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Old 09-13-2017, 11:05 PM   #1
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I have been keeping a hunting journal for several years where I keep track of number of deer seen, weather conditions, moon phase, rut activity, etc. I was looking through my journal today to try and decide what my best days had been in the past so that I could schedule my vacation time for this season. I ended up diving in a little deeper and found a pretty cool trend I thought I would share.
Over the past three seasons, consisting of more hours on a stand than I'm willing to admit, there were six days on the stand that stood out above the rest for me.

Oct/29/2014

8:35 a.m., overcast, 56, Northeast wind 5mph, pressure 30.17 rising. I shot this buck at around 8:30 a.m. coming to a scrape. It was the first time the wind had switched to the North after four straight days of a South wind.


Nov/19/2014

4:55 p.m., clear, 62, South wind 3mph, pressure 30.19 steady. On this day the barometer fell all day from 30.4 until it leveled out at 30.19. It was the first day of South wind after a week of North wind and cold temperatures. Highs for the week prior were in the low 40's, with lows in the high 20's. On the afternoon when I shot this buck the temp had risen to 62


Oct/26/2015

8:35 a.m., overcast, 57, North wind 10 mph, pressure 29.95 rising. A hunt I will never forget. I did not kill a buck but did video several mature bucks throughout the morning. This day was the first North wind after five straight days of South wind.


Nov/21/2015

5:15 p.m., overcast, 48, North wind 10mph, pressure 30.25 rising. I watched an old stocky eight point guard a doe in an oat patch for most of the afternoon. There were two days of Southeast wind prior to this day. On this afternoon the wind was gusting up to 25mph out of the North


Dec/4/2015

4:55 p.m., clear, 52, North wind 5mph, pressure 30.43 rising. I killed my best buck on this day just before last light coming in to check does in a large oat patch. This day had the highest barometric pressure of any day of the 2015 season. It topped out at 30.54 later on that night. This afternoon there was a shift in the wind from North to East after eight straight days of North wind.


Nov/5/2016

5:35 p.m., overcast, 63, Northwest wind 5mph, pressure 30.22 rising. I rattled this buck in an hour before sunset. He was up on his feet cruising for does. The wind had switched to a North wind the evening before after 7 days of a South wind.


After several days of wind from one direction, the day, and the day after the wind switches directions is when I had encounters with mature bucks. I ha e several other less impressive but mature bucks in my journal that fell into this pattern too. I know I'm over analysing but just thought it was a really cool pattern.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:33 PM   #2
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Great post! Mark Drury talked about the same thing on the Wired to Hunt podcast #63. They mainly talk about midwest hunting but there's a ton of good info there.

http://wiredtohunt.com/2015/07/09/th...t-wmark-drury/
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:58 PM   #3
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Excellent post and thanks for sharing. I keep journals on my hunts too. Not as detailed as some friends but it is still great to look back and compare notes.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:59 PM   #4
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Good info. I pick up BP always rising and a change in wind direction. Plus it helps to have big deer on your place. Thx for sharing. Safe hunting
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:17 AM   #5
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Pretty perceptive observations....thanks for sharing.
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:00 AM   #6
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So what's the trend? A wind shift after days of a consistent wind?? And a high Barometric pressure?

I believe you are on to something with the wind shifting. Everyone knows it's good hunting with a high pressure but if you start thinking like a buck the wind makes a big deal. That mature buck is out there living in the wild. He is doing everything he can to avoid danger and lives with his nose. If he consistently falls into somewhat of a pattern with a certain wind for a say 5 days then there is a pronounced wind shift. He must move and alter his route/plans whatever you want to call it to put the wind back in his face and favor. Just a hypothesis but it makes sense to me when I start trying to understand why there is good movement after a shift.


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I don't do a good enough observing the pressure before I hunt. I definitely will be spending more time on it this year


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Old 09-14-2017, 07:48 AM   #8
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So what's the trend? A wind shift after days of a consistent wind??
Exactly that. I think it is exactly the reason you stated about bucks kind of falling into a pattern and suddenly having to change with a switch in wind direction.



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Old 09-14-2017, 07:55 AM   #9
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cool post
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:08 AM   #10
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very interesting post! I have always kept mental notes but I think this year I will start a Journal!

Thanks for sharing!
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:33 AM   #11
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Nice info, good pattern.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:40 AM   #12
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Good info
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:40 AM   #13
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By looking at those pics i would say you have been blessed in the Hunting Dept.
Beautiful deer.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:49 AM   #14
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A hunting journal is a pretty cool idea. Something you can pass on to your kids and they can re live your hunts.
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That is a great observation thanks for the post I will have to watch for this next season!
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Old 09-14-2017, 09:15 AM   #16
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Cool deal. I keep a log as well with similar information and enjoy reading old hunts. Lots of little things that I don't recall until I re-read the hunt.
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Old 09-14-2017, 09:19 AM   #17
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You're locked in on the number one condition that matters when hunting mature bucks. For you to be killing them that tells me an awful lot about how you hunt, sort of confirms thoughts I've had about how you hunt in the past.

When you put yourself in between bedding areas wind direction change trumps all other conditions. Mature bucks will bed 95% of the time with the wind at their back and where they can see out front. When that wind direction changes, whatever time of day it is, they absolutely can not stand it and have to move.


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Old 09-14-2017, 09:38 AM   #18
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Old 09-14-2017, 09:51 AM   #19
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My old lease in Kansas was set up to where I would blow every deer off of the place if I tried to hunt on a south wind. On days that the wind was out of the south, I just didn't hunt. I would load some cold beers in a cooler and park up on the huge hill behind the barn and watch the bottom and see what deer were doing. Countless times I'd be sitting with a south wind and the wind would shift to say NE. Every single time the wind shifted I'd see mature bucks stand up from their bed and relocate. When you figure that trend out you're hunting and not just feeder guarding anymore. Be careful making intelligent insiteful posts on this forum. People will start calling you narcissistic and making it a point in their life to prove you wrong.
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Be careful making intelligent insiteful posts on this forum. People will start calling you narcissistic and making it a point in their life to prove you wrong.

Lol!! Watch it, the "feeder guarding" police will write you up for that. I like trying to sit on some type of ridge or travel corridor when there is a wind shift like you described.



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Lol!! Watch it, the "feeder guarding" police will write you up for that. I like trying to sit on some type of ridge or travel corridor when there is a wind shift like you described.



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You gonna be close to me on opening day? Might have to meet up for a burger.


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Check that you probably don't eat burgers. You can have a grilled chicken salad and I'll have a burger


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Good info. Have to keep that in mind this year.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:54 AM   #24
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lol I need some chicken in my life. I have packed on the lbs last month or two. I messed up my wrist filling feeders in Oklahoma it's just now getting back ok. I'll be down for lunch for sure if I'm here.


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lol I need some chicken in my life. I have packed on the lbs last month or two. I messed up my wrist filling feeders in Oklahoma it's just now getting back ok. I'll be down for lunch for sure if I'm here.


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Be careful making intelligent insiteful posts on this forum. People will start calling you narcissistic and making it a point in their life to prove you wrong.
Sorry if my post comes off as narcissistic to some. I included the pictures just as a little visual proof to back up the patterns I saw.

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Appreciate the post.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:16 AM   #28
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Sorry if my post comes off as narcissistic to some. I included the pictures just as a little visual proof to back up the patterns I saw.

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Don't apologize for it, I never do lol. I enjoy your live hunts and enjoy someone that actually puts a little thought and tact into hunting. You don't get a group of pictures like you posted by accident.


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good info to think about
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:23 AM   #30
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Great post! Mark Drury talked about the same thing on the Wired to Hunt podcast #63. They mainly talk about midwest hunting but there's a ton of good info there.

http://wiredtohunt.com/2015/07/09/th...t-wmark-drury/
I just finished listening and man there was some great info in there! He definitely believes in the day or two after a switch in the wind direction, and high pressure. I really liked how he broke the season down into the 13 different phases. I was shaking my head in agreement through most of the interview. I didn't see the correlation between deer movement and the moon phase in my records like he did, but I know he has way more data to go off of than me. He is the first person I have heard talk about the hunting being the best during and around a full moon. You usually hear people say the opposite. The man really knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing that!
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:24 AM   #31
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I started keeping a similar log the last couple seasons covering most everything you have said other than the barometric pressure. Lots of knowledge can be gathered for sure from just a small amount of time put into just logging what is going on.

Great pick up on your part figuring out the wind shifts and it makes perfectly clear sense thinking about it now. Thanks for posting!
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I just finished listening and man there was some great info in there! He definitely believes in the day or two after a switch in the wind direction, and high pressure. I really liked how he broke the season down into the 13 different phases. I was shaking my head in agreement through most of the interview. I didn't see the correlation between deer movement and the moon phase in my records like he did, but I know he has way more data to go off of than me. He is the first person I have heard talk about the hunting being the best during and around a full moon. You usually hear people say the opposite. The man really knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing that!
Yessir! I've listened to that particular episode at least 5 times since I found it and will probably hear it another 5times in the next two weeks.
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Cool... I "hunt" when I can, I think it's great info and sound research with proven results. I know I've spent countless hours with not a hair seen but being there always better than not, can't kill anything if your not putting in the hours in the field. Dream of retirement, and hunting everyday an entire season. Thanks for sharing. Great post!

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Cool... I "hunt" when I can, I think it's great info and sound research with proven results. I know I've spent countless hours with not a hair seen but being there always better than not, can't kill anything if your not putting in the hours in the field. Dream of retirement, and hunting everyday an entire season. Thanks for sharing. Great post!

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I don't think the OP is suggesting you should stay home when conditions don't align. It's kind of like a guy may only be able to handle a handful of daylight to dark sits in a year. If you're going to go that route in E. Tx based on recorded info; try and pick a day towards the end of October, with cool temps, when the wind is supposed to shift and the barometer is 30.15-30.25.


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I don't think the OP is suggesting you should stay home when conditions don't align. It's kind of like a guy may only be able to handle a handful of daylight to dark sits in a year. If you're going to go that route in E. Tx based on recorded info; try and pick a day towards the end of October, with cool temps, when the wind is supposed to shift and the barometer is 30.15-30.25.


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How can you tell this in advanced? Say those days fall into the normal work week, how can you request time off in advanced?

I know the few days where I have seen the most chasing of the rut here in northern Texas, so I'm planning to take about 5 days to cover that.

By the way, great post OP! This is great stuff. I hunt lots of public land and need to start recording my data as well.
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This is some good stuff!
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How can you tell this in advanced? Say those days fall into the normal work week, how can you request time off in advanced?



I know the few days where I have seen the most chasing of the rut here in northern Texas, so I'm planning to take about 5 days to cover that.



By the way, great post OP! This is great stuff. I hunt lots of public land and need to start recording my data as well.


I don't know that you can plan far enough in advance to take off. I try and check the weather the night before and the morning of every hunt. If it looks like conditions will be right, I pack a lunch.


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Good thoughts. I will be taking 5 days in early November for 5 all day sits.
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How can you tell this in advanced? Say those days fall into the normal work week, how can you request time off in advanced?

I know the few days where I have seen the most chasing of the rut here in northern Texas, so I'm planning to take about 5 days to cover that.

By the way, great post OP! This is great stuff. I hunt lots of public land and need to start recording my data as well.

Wake up, check the conditions and if they look good tell your boss you have bad **** glaucoma that day.

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Old 09-14-2017, 03:45 PM   #41
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I've noticed the same on wind, the first south wind after several days of north is almost always a day that bucks will be out. I noticed because a buck I was after all last year was showing up on a south wind after a cold front to a spot that is only huntable with a north wind.
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Excellent thread. Note the pattern of big deer getting vulnerable on a significant wind chance. i wrote a post about the Corner Effect and how big deer had to change their position when the wind changed. great info sir.
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You guys kill me. In a good way! When people ask me my "hobbies" I have always said "hunting, fishing, and football". Hunting has definitely become a clear cut #1 as I've gotten older. Therefore, I consider myself a "hunter". It has become obvious to me that I am a "whiskey drinker" that likes to look at deer. LOL You guys are true "hunters" and I enjoy the heck out of reading these posts. Y'all kill some mighty impressive deer where it is NOT easy to kill 'em. I will continue to "hunt" vicariously through y'alls posts. Love 'em.
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Thank you for this very interesting information. Someone's literally doing their homework. Good job!

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Old 09-14-2017, 06:43 PM   #46
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My parents gave me a nice leather hunting journal a few years ago. I laughed at it when I opened it, but it's been pretty cool recording my hunts. Wished I had thought to record barometric pressure. Cool read. Thanks.
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Yessir! I've listened to that particular episode at least 5 times since I found it and will probably hear it another 5times in the next two weeks.
I listened to it again lol. One thing he does that I never thought about is comparing his daylight pics of mature bucks from his game cams to weather history. I have years worth of pics on my laptop that I would like to go through and compare also to see if the trend sticks.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:02 AM   #48
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Great post! Mark Drury talked about the same thing on the Wired to Hunt podcast #63. They mainly talk about midwest hunting but there's a ton of good info there.

http://wiredtohunt.com/2015/07/09/th...t-wmark-drury/
Thanks for this, it was a good listen
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:26 AM   #49
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Haha!! And I thought I was the only one who was that crazy/**** bout huntin stuff! I have done the exact same thing for years, and like you have noticed the EXACT same trend with the movement following a change in wind direction. And I also have killed, or at least seen some of my better bucks when this scenario happens. In my journal, I also always do a write up/mini story of the hunt, which is always cool to go back and read... Especially the ones where I kill something! Another thing I always have written down is the "direction of travel" as in the way the deer move to where my stand is, and the way they leave the area. It's always cool how that will deviate with the conditions/wind direction. Once again, awesome write up, and good to see others are as crazy as me! Good Huntin, and God Bless, Rusty
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:43 AM   #50
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I just finished listening and man there was some great info in there! He definitely believes in the day or two after a switch in the wind direction, and high pressure. I really liked how he broke the season down into the 13 different phases. I was shaking my head in agreement through most of the interview. I didn't see the correlation between deer movement and the moon phase in my records like he did, but I know he has way more data to go off of than me. He is the first person I have heard talk about the hunting being the best during and around a full moon. You usually hear people say the opposite. The man really knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing that!
I don't keep near the records you guys do but I had one buck in particular that I hunted hard for a couple of years. I was logging weather and moon phase from all his pictures and every time there was a full moon I would get daylight pictures when most pictures were coming at night. Took off work for the full moon in October and sure enough he came in at 3:20 in the afternoon, but I blew my shot. Never put that much thought into a deer before and since he ended up getting killed I haven't had one on camera that has intrigued me as much as him. I need to do a better job of keeping up with it all.
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