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Old 05-14-2018, 12:52 PM   #151
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You are applying your version of a God to NK version. Its a flawed comparison. Period.
Ehhhhhhhh, I guess, please educate me on what NKs version of a God is?

Remember the Olympics and how much TV time the sister got. How the Koreans fielded a team together for the first time, well ever? How the Koreans met for the first time since the war, ever?

Can you to at least begrudgingly admit, there have been a lot of good "firsts" with NK under Trump?

The first member of the North's ruling dynasty to visit the South since the Korean War ended in an armistice in 1953, Kim on Saturday made headlines across the globe when she delivered an invitation to South Korean President Moon Jae-in to visit North Korea.
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Well i can agree that he hasnt suddenly had a change of heart. Maybe he thinks he can stall a while and out last trump. either way, i think Trump is doing exactly the right thing here.
I have no doubt Trump thinks hes doing something positive..or is trying to ... thats not the point.
NK has never curtailed to any outside influence..and has a very special deep seeded, long standing, hatred...yes hatred of the united states.
Its taught, forced, and indoctrinated into every citizen from birth that the US is evil, is trying to kill them every minute of every day, and the supreme leader will protect them always.
this is not a cult that they blindly follow some smooth talkin guru....this is ingrained in their DNA and a way of life that started at birth.
Whatever his motives are, the lil dictator has a plan..and it aint peace.
He killed his own half brother, uncle, countless (literally..they are countless) NK citizens, he just killed an american for stealin a flag, has set off rocket after rocket, defied all calls to stop threatening the US, and neighboring countries, set off nukes in his own country, constantly runs 'military drills', and has missiles pointed at SK and Japan...
He lives in a country surrounded by barbed wire, electric fences, concrete bunkers, one of the largest militaries in the world, with missiles, guns, rockets, loud speakers, lights surrounding him 24/7 from all available sides...
.. but yet...a couple months later...he's now this chubby friendly face that wants to be liked because Trump scares him?
Yeh.. I don't think so Tim.
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Ehhhhhhhh, I guess, please educate me on what NKs version of a God is?

Remember the Olympics and how much TV time the sister got. How the Koreans fielded a team together for the first time, well ever? How the Koreans met for the first time since the war, ever?

Can you to at least begrudgingly admit, there have been a lot of good "firsts" with NK under Trump?

The first member of the North's ruling dynasty to visit the South since the Korean War ended in an armistice in 1953, Kim on Saturday made headlines across the globe when she delivered an invitation to South Korean President Moon Jae-in to visit North Korea.
Hitler hosted an olympics.
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I have no doubt Trump thinks hes doing something positive..or is trying to ... thats not the point.
NK has never curtailed to any outside influence..and has a very special deep seeded, long standing, hatred...yes hatred of the united states.
Its taught, forced, and indoctrinated into every citizen from birth that the US is evil, is trying to kill them every minute of every day, and the supreme leader will protect them always.
this is not a cult that they blindly follow some smooth talkin guru....this is ingrained in their DNA and a way of life that started at birth.
Whatever his motives are, the lil dictator has a plan..and it aint peace.
He killed his own half brother, uncle, countless (literally..they are countless) NK citizens, he just killed an american for stealin a flag, has set off rocket after rocket, defied all calls to stop threatening the US, and neighboring countries, set off nukes in his own country, constantly runs 'military drills', and has missiles pointed at SK and Japan...
He lives in a country surrounded by barbed wire, electric fences, concrete bunkers, one of the largest militaries in the world, with missiles, guns, rockets, loud speakers, lights surrounding him 24/7 from all available sides...
.. but yet...a couple months later...he's now this chubby friendly face that wants to be liked because Trump scares him?
Yeh.. I don't think so Tim.
Soooo.. why do you think he is showing his friendly chubby face now?
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Soooo.. why do you think he is showing his friendly chubby face now?
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and has a very special deep seeded, long standing, hatred...yes hatred of the united states.
Its taught, forced, and indoctrinated into every citizen from birth that the US is evil, is trying to kill them every minute of every day, and the supreme leader will protect them always.
this is not a cult that they blindly follow some smooth talkin guru....this is ingrained in their DNA and a way of life that started at birth.
I agree 100%.

The supreme leader will protect his people against the evil USA empire. But, oh wait, what if his big old bomb just done blowed up in his face. Now what? Negotiate, posture, come clean that he not as supreme as he told everyone? He has kind of painted himself into a bit of a corner with what you state above, no?

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Whatever his motives are, the lil dictator has a plan..and it aint peace.
Come on man, stop talking in circles. Tell us what you think his plan is?
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But if he thinks he is a god, why not just say screw you, Im a god and you aint? Ill tell you why, because he has recently faced his mortality. Sure he is posturing but its because he learned he has a loosing hand.
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Its taught, forced, and indoctrinated into every citizen from birth that the US is evil, is trying to kill them every minute of every day, and the supreme leader will protect them always.
this is not a cult that they blindly follow some smooth talkin guru....this is ingrained in their DNA and a way of life that started at birth.
Its the first thing out of the mouth of every NK defector ...DEATH TO AMERICA!!
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Its the first thing out of the mouth of every NK defector ...DEATH TO AMERICA!!
Heres some words from a defector:
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A NORTH Korean defector has told US President Donald Trump not to trust the secretive country’s leader Kim Jong-un and his apparent willingness to discuss “denuclearisation”.
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Donald Trump has been told he should not trust Kim Jong-un.
North Korea is a wasteland of human rights and it is so disappointing that Kim is being taken seriously.

Defector Na Min-hee, who now lives in South Korea, was among hundreds of young performers at a massive parade in Pyongyang in 2010 marking Kim’s debut as heir to his father Kim Jong-il – and she urged Mr Trump not to be taken in.

Her warning came as Kim prepares to travel to the Demilitarised Zone for a meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in on Friday which will pave the way for an historic summit with Mr Trump himself, possibly as early as next month.

She said: “I hope Trump does not waver from his previous position on North Korea. The country is not changing.

“I hope he will remember that Kim Jong-un is a criminal violating the human rights of the North Korean people.

“North Korea is a wasteland of human rights and it is so disappointing that Kim is being taken seriously.”

Mr Trump and Kim traded insults for months after the US leader’s 2016 election victory, so it was a major shock when he revealed he was prepared to meet his much-ridiculed counterpart.

However, Na questioned Kim’s sincerity, suggesting that he was simply playing for time as economic pressure increased on his country following the imposition of tough international sanctions.

She explained: “Kim is just trying to find a way out of the dilemmas he’s facing right now.

For my whole life, his father, Kim Jong-il, and now Kim Jong-un have not been interested in any real change.

“That would only lead to the demise of him and his regime.

“North Koreans are being told that these summits are only taking place because the US is afraid of the country’s nuclear weapons.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in is due to meet Kim on Friday
“These summits will be used as propaganda in Pyongyang to prop up the glorious reputation of Kim Jong-un as leader.”

Na is descended from communist rebels who fought alongside Kim Il-sung, the North’s founder, in 1948.

She worked as a chef in Pyongyang after graduating from college but was eventually permitted to apply for a job as a foreign worker as a consequence of being from a “good family”.

She ended up working in a Chinese-run factory in another country, the details of which she wanted to keep confidential to protect others.



The vast majority of what she earned was sent back to North Korea, which is heavily reliant on income generated by its army of overseas workers to help prop up its ailing economy.

She said: “We were not allowed to talk to other workers. We could only leave the property once a week in supervised groups to buy food.

"We were not allowed to use phones and we could not watch television.”

She eventually managed to escape with £175 she managed to save and managed to contact a South Korean embassy.

She now lives in Seoul, where she is getting ready to go to university with the help a charity called Teach North Korean Refugees.
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Heres some words from a defector:
Well then....we tried.
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I dont think that anyone disagrees that the NK people are brain washed by Kim. But you realize you are quoting a defector. A defector, by definition, couldn't have been all that brain washed anyways.

At some point Kim is going to have to show his hand. He can lie to his people, but he cant lie to the world forever. It would happen regardless but I think Trump is going to make it happen sooner rather than later. He has kind of already proved that.

I am just trying to look at Kims options objectively. From your defectors quote, it kind of sounds like Kim has to negotiate with somebody. His country is not self sufficient food wise (and prob in other areas as well), that would be a pretty be dilemma for anybody. But a bigger dilemma for a lil fat boy, that been telling everybody he is devine.

However, Na questioned Kim’s sincerity, suggesting that he was simply playing for time as economic pressure increased on his country following the imposition of tough international sanctions.

She explained: “Kim is just trying to find a way out of the dilemmas he’s facing right now.
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I'm pretty sure you arent even reading what you write...let alone what anyone else does.
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let the games begin.....
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea canceled a high-level meeting Wednesday with South Korea and threatened also to call off a historic summit planned next month with the United States due to ongoing military exercises between the South and the U.S., South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

The two Koreas were set to hold a meeting later Wednesday at a border truce village to discuss setting up military and Red Cross talks aimed at reducing border tension and restarting reunions between families separated by the Korean War.

But hours before the meeting was to take place, Pyongyang canceled the meeting and also questioned whether next month's talks between North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and President Donald Trump would happen, Yonhap reported, citing North Korea's Korean Central News Agency.




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Impossible.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:33 PM   #165
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Impossible.
You called it. Incredible.
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who the **** saw this comin?!!!
and this ..on the greatest accomplishment ever...

oh right.

smfh.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44136263

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North Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan has warned his country could pull out of a summit with US President Donald Trump, accusing Washington of harbouring sinister intentions. Here is his statement in full:

Kim Jong-un, chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea [DPKR], made a strategic decision to put an end to the unpleasant history of the DPRK-US relations and met [Mike] Pompeo, US secretary of state, for two times during his visit to our country and took very important and broad-minded steps for peace and stability in the Korean peninsula and the world.

In response to the noble intention of Chairman Kim Jong-un, President Trump stated his position for terminating the historically deep-rooted hostility and improving the relations between the DPRK and the US.

I appreciated the position positively with an expectation that the upcoming DPRK-US summit would be a big step forward for catalysing detente on the Korean peninsula and building a great future.

N Korea threatens to cancel Trump summit
But now prior to the DPRK-US summit, unbridled remarks provoking the other side of dialogue are recklessly made in the US and I am totally disappointed as these constitute extremely unjust behaviour.

High-ranking officials of the White House and the Department of State including John Bolton, White House national security adviser, are letting loose the assertions of a so-called Libya mode of nuclear abandonment: "complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation", "total decommissioning of nuclear weapons, missiles, biochemical weapons" etc, while talking about a formula of "abandoning nuclear weapons first, compensating afterwards".

This is not an expression of intention to address the issue through dialogue.

'Libyan scenario'
It is essentially a manifestation of an awfully sinister move to impose on our dignified state the destiny of Libya or Iraq, which had been brought down due to yielding the whole of their countries to big powers.

I cannot suppress indignation at such moves of the US, and harbour doubt about the US sincerity for improved DPRK-US relations through sound dialogue and negotiations.

Will historic Koreas summit lead to peace?
The world knows too well that our country is neither Libya nor Iraq which have met miserable fates.

It is absolutely absurd to dare compare the DPRK, a nuclear weapon state, to Libya which had been at the initial stage of nuclear development.

We shed light on the quality of Bolton already in the past, and we do not hide our feeling of repugnance towards him.

If the Trump administration fails to recall the lessons learned from the past when the DPRK-US talks had to undergo twists and setbacks owing to the likes of Bolton, and turns its ear to the advice of quasi-"patriots" who insist on a Libya mode and the like, the prospects of the forthcoming DPRK-US summit and overall DPRK-US relations will be crystal clear.


Media captionWhy North Korea is angry at this man
We have already stated our intention for denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula and made clear on several occasions that precondition for denuclearisation is to put an end to the anti-DPRK hostile policy and nuclear threats and blackmail of the United States.

But now, the US is miscalculating the magnanimity and broad-minded initiatives of the DPRK as signs of weakness and trying to embellish and advertise as if these are the product of its sanctions and pressure.

The US is trumpeting as if it would offer economic compensation and benefit in case we abandon nukes.

But we have never had any expectation of US support in carrying out our economic construction and will not at all make such a deal in future, too.

'We won't be cornered'
It is a ridiculous comedy to see that the Trump administration, claiming to take a different road from the previous administrations, still clings to the outdated policy on the DPRK - a policy pursued by previous administrations at the time when the DPRK was at the stage of nuclear development.

If President Trump follows in the footsteps of his predecessors, he will be recorded as a more tragic and unsuccessful president than his predecessors, far from his initial ambition to make unprecedented success.

If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-US summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-US relations, it will receive a deserved response from us.

However, if the US is trying to drive us into a corner to force our unilateral nuclear abandonment, we will no longer be interested in such dialogue and cannot but reconsider our proceeding to the DPRK-US summit.
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who the **** saw this comin?!!!
and this ..on the greatest accomplishment ever...

oh right.

smfh.
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effin crickets.
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effin crickets.
well we were hoping.
I figured something would derail it.

see post #160
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Only hoping because it was Trump ...
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We will just have to wait and see what happens.

Whatever MSM is reporting the exact opposite will happen.
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effin crickets.
Its still on and we are still waiting?
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It is sad to see that there are people rooting for what exactly, Kim to keep killing and oppressing his people, Kim to keep/get a nuke, Kim to keep disrupting world affairs? I mean I expect it from the media, and some of the loons on the left, but it is like people are rejoicing that NoKo might stay an oppressed chithole, because they dont want Donnie to get credit for fixing anything. That is really beyond sad.

I still say that Trump will continue to make progress in NK.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, the president stressed he would still insist on the isolated regime dismantling its nuclear program. Asked if Kim is bluffing by suggesting he could pull out of the summit, Trump responded, "we'll see what happens."

"We haven't been notified at all," the president said.
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It is sad to see that there are people rooting for what exactly, Kim to keep killing and oppressing his people, Kim to keep/get a nuke, Kim to keep disrupting world affairs? I mean I expect it from the media, and some of the loons on the left, but it is like people are rejoicing that NoKo might stay an oppressed chithole, because they dont want Donnie to get credit for fixing anything. That is really beyond sad.

I still say that Trump will continue to make progress in NK.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, the president stressed he would still insist on the isolated regime dismantling its nuclear program. Asked if Kim is bluffing by suggesting he could pull out of the summit, Trump responded, "we'll see what happens."

"We haven't been notified at all," the president said.
Are you a ****ing idiot or just obtuse by nature?
NO ONE is rooting for the bad guy...

We dont TRUST the bad guy based on the bad guys history, he entire families history, hes education, his nature, his countries oppression, the countries complete and embracing idea that their leader is a God....
Its common sense... something you seem to be struggling to grasp... or just refuse to see because it makes your blind and unprecedented leg humping of a Trump victory in this case seem unattainable.
IT IS unattainable.
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Rocket man needs this deal to go through way more than the US...he's too unpredictable for any high stakes but would gamble a beer the meeting happens as of today.

If it doesn't, he loses huge and we stay in our holding pattern.
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Rocket man needs this deal to go through way more than the US...he's too unpredictable for any high stakes but would gamble a beer the meeting happens as of today.

If it doesn't, he loses huge and we stay in our holding pattern.
Agreed...if it doesn't happen we smile and walk away and continue on with our bubbling economy and living some good life....while his people continue to starve and his infrastructure crumbles.
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I take it all back.

Just found out he sent this to lil Kim.
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Meeting cancelled. Who woulda thought...
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what? thats ****in impossible... lil kim wouldnt go back on his word? I heard China would pressure him... and he was scared of what Trump would say....

silly rabbit, NK is another ****in planet.
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Looks like Trump cancelled the meeting to me.

I still say that it happens at some point in DJTs tenure. So far he has gotten hostages released, a NK nuke site destroyed, NK and SK to meet, and opened a dialogue with the fat man over twitter (), based on a few of the past winners, I am ready to give him the nobel peace prize already
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Looks like Trump cancelled the meeting to me.

I still say that it happens at some point in DJTs tenure. So far he has gotten hostages released, a NK nuke site destroyed, NK and SK to meet, and opened a dialogue with the fat man over twitter (), based on a few of the past winners, I am ready to give him the nobel peace prize already
I believe it will happen at some point as well. Rocket man has to somehow figure out how he can capitulate to the US and still remain the God of his people.
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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un made good on his promise to demolish his country’s nuclear test site, which was formally closed in a series of huge explosions Thursday as a group of foreign journalists looked on.......

North Korea’s state media called the closure of the site part of a process to build “a nuclear-free, peaceful world” and “global nuclear disarmament.”

“The dismantling of the nuclear test ground conducted with high-level transparency has clearly attested once again to the proactive and peace-loving efforts of the DPRK government being made for assuring peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and over the world,” the North’s official news agency reported late Thursday.

But even as North Korea made good on its gesture of detente, it lobbed a verbal salvo at Washington, calling Vice President Mike Pence a “political dummy” and saying it is just as ready to meet in a nuclear confrontation as at the negotiating table.


https://apnews.com/b3d007a341db451ab...ries-of-blasts

Just curious to see what others take is on this (as I am sure some will disagree with me)

I read it as NK very publicly demolished it nuke testing site, made a public commitment to peace, then Kim got the Art of the Deal broken over his bowl cut. I mean I just dont see how Kim is in a position of power here. OK now, tell me how wrong I am.
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Art of the deal....
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What are they down to now.....10 grains rice/per person/per day? They need this. We don't.
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Art of the deal....
Yessir. Kim doesn't hold the cards we do and we just took ours off the table. Let us know when you want to be a good little boy and play right Kim.
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~They stated NK went radio silent over the past week after the secret meeting with China & trying to finalize June 12th details.

~Although I doubt it would have changed anything that happened today, Pence didn't do any favors saying we could can always go with the mummer gaddafi option.

~NK blows up a worthless test facility mountain in a show of good faith & wasted some perfectly good explosives.

~China disinvited from major military exercise.

~NK says come to the table or let's play nukes...we gone, your move rocket man.

the funnest part of this whole deal is seeing the libs originally go ape-chit over even having the meeting in the first place with Trump being to aggressive & stupid to have the meeting in such short order with a June 12th date!! Now his letter was a hallmark card being a wimp and to walk away from the important meeting?? Truly foolish.

Garguy has it right...it's all negotiation tactics but tend to lean that China had a big hand here. One thing is for sure, there is a new Sheriff in town & the world is now REALLY taking notice. We upset our allies across the pond with Iran & now walking away from NK with all the cards.

It's refreshing seeing a potus have some actual cajones & doing what he feels is best for the US. I'm sure SK is a little skittish & feels like they got dropped in the grease, but this just reinforces my humble opinion of how a US president should handle dealing with thugs. Trump isn't going to be sucker punched & the US no longer looks weak & the apology tour is OVER!! I'm sure many will not agree but I'm diggin it.

It's depressing to see the political opposition & MSM behave & come across like a cheer squad for NK only because of their loathing for Trump.

Any guesses on what Rocket man's next move is?? Pelosi stated he is clicking his heels & won today...frick'n unbelievable what comes from that forked tongue.
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Looks like Trump cancelled the meeting to me.

I still say that it happens at some point in DJTs tenure. So far he has gotten hostages released, a NK nuke site destroyed, NK and SK to meet, and opened a dialogue with the fat man over twitter (), based on a few of the past winners, I am ready to give him the nobel peace prize already
That's exactly the right move on Trump's part.

If Kim acts like a child, he doesn't get to sit at the adult's table.

What would 0bama have done in this situation?
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Yeah, Trump is lagging way behind our last few Presidents in N Korea deals........
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That's exactly the right move on Trump's part.

If Kim acts like a child, he doesn't get to sit at the adult's table.

What would 0bama have done in this situation?
he would have drawn another red line and told them not to cross it again.
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he would have drawn another red line and told them not to cross it again.
Accompanied by a cowardly bow like he’s used to doing to every bully he’s ever came across.
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That's exactly the right move on Trump's part.

If Kim acts like a child, he doesn't get to sit at the adult's table.

What would 0bama have done in this situation?
Given him $150 billion dollars to be his friend.
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NK has extended a withered olive branch in desperation.
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NK has extended a withered olive branch in desperation.
Trump is playing this hand like a pro. I think i saw this one on World Series Of Poker last year.
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Trump is playing this hand like a pro. I think i saw this one on World Series Of Poker last year.
Trump absolutely playing poker like a champ.. slow playing royal flush ...steady eyes...no tell ..selling it hard...



Too bad the game is Yutnori.
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It's going to be interesting to see which Republican camp has it figured out on North Korea. If this were a bet, not sure who I'd put my money on. GOP strategist and Never-Trump stalwart, Rick Wilson, lambasted Trump Nation this morning over this and "Spygate".


Trump’s land of delusion: Disregard the sycophants; the wheels are coming off, if they were ever on


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"...Something else happened last week, and it wasn't just bad for Trump. It was bad for the world.

Trump's diplomatic pratfall on North Korea forced a pullout from the summit he had sold as the best thing since Trump University, and came just weeks after his breathless followers demanded that the Nobel Institute give Trump the Peace Prize. They did everything but fuel up Air Force One for a trip to Oslo, believing the deal to strip North Korea of its nuclear arsenal and intercontinental ballistic missiles to be done (Trump had basically tweeted as much), with nothing left to do but raise a champagne toast in Singapore.

Almost no one in the diplomatic, military or intelligence community believed for a moment that Kim Jong Un would fulfill his promises; Kim is a con man, conning a con man. Trump never understood that he is the mark in this con game, played by Kim with a helpful assist from Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Of course, North Korea never, ever intended to give up its nuclear arsenal, to end its long history of murderous oppression of its suffering people, or in any other way give Trump a diplomatic win. Kim's bad faith was never a question to anyone but Trump. It was a certainty. Furthermore, China never intended to help Trump win a major diplomatic victory, or to unify Korea.

No, Trump fans, it's not 87-dimensional chess. There's no secret plan, no hidden strategy. Trump is a man who sees everything through the dumb lens of reality television, New York tabloid spritzing, professional wrestling kayfabe and an utterly misplaced belief that he is a master negotiator.

He's a man of notably grotesque ignorance who refuses to read even the crayon picture-book version of the President's Daily Brief, and who is contemptuous of both the intelligence community and American diplomats.

Of course the Multi-dimensional Chess Club is insisting that even Trump's most evident and egregious failures are part of some subtle, esoteric master plan that only he can perceive. While earlier this month they were cheering for the Trump Nobel Peace Prize, last week they were cheering his "my nuke is bigger than your nuke" threats and claiming this was his plan all along.

His North Korean reaction was pure emotion, all impulse and no judgment. Just like his responses to Cohen's new perils, the looming Mueller investigation, the failures of his superstar legal team to close down the Russia probe, his desire to corrupt and suborn the Justice Department and the intelligence community to protect him from the special counsel are all signs of his contempt for the rule of law.

Your rational mind knows why Trump is doing all of this, but the stress of seeing him lure 40% of the American people into a trap from which there is no escape is often painful to watch. As an anthropologist of Trump and Trumpism, sometimes I feel as if the best thing I do is to remind you that it's all a lie.

No matter how much he spins it, no matter how many cute brand names and catchphrases he tries to jam into the media flow, at his core, Donald Trump is a man in a rising sea of legal peril, political risk and catastrophic failures. This explains his increasingly erratic behavior and dangerous efforts to corrupt the special counsel process, the Justice Department, and American institutions more broadly.

We can be dragged down into Trump's wilderness of mirrors , or we can take a deep breath and appreciate just how truly terrible his week was. With Trump, it's always the worst week, since the last week.

At least next week is Infrastructure Week. We'll always have Infrastructure Week."

Wilson is a Republican political strategist.
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To extend the games metaphor, this is inning #1 of a game that will go multiple extra innings. Be patient.
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Trump kicked the puck through the basket for a touch goal in the final period of the last inning.
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Trump kicked the puck through the basket for a touch goal in the final period of the last inning.
Trump just keeps winning!
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https://www.click2houston.com/news/i...y-headed-to-us

This guy is probably getting his first glimpse of what the outside world REALLY looks like. Would be funny if he tried to defect in New York.
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