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Old 05-10-2018, 09:21 PM   #1
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The skinny....You’re 31, live in a neighborhood in a town of 100K people, so busy but not the Metromess. Good neighbors, nice neighborhood. You like your house.

You really want some land in general and you can either

A. Buy less land and build a house, live there and enjoy it every day, even if it’s not really enough to do what you really want, but it gets you out to the country and away from the busy city.

B. Stay where you are and buy a larger tract within an hour or two where land is cheaper and use it as a weekender/hunting spot.

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For those that have been there and those who are pondering the same, what would you do?
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:24 PM   #2
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Buy bigger land and move there later on once kids are out of the house.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:25 PM   #3
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B if your land is close enough, for me itd have to be with 1.5 he's.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:27 PM   #4
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Buy bigger land and move there later on once kids are out of the house.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:34 PM   #5
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B since land doesn't get cheaper with time. You can always pick up a camper or build a small barndo. You can work to get the place ready for retirement over the next 30 yrs. Pay as you go and watch your debt load.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:37 PM   #6
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Buy bigger land and move there later on once kids are out of the house.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:38 PM   #7
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Is the larger land already ag exempt or will you need to establish the exemption?

Land that isn't ag exempt will eat you up with prop taxes.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:40 PM   #8
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Always go bigger!
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:44 PM   #9
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Go big or go home! Buy big and stay home!
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:49 PM   #10
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Is the larger land already ag exempt or will you need to establish the exemption?

Land that isn't ag exempt will eat you up with prop taxes.
Story of my life right now. Longest 5 years of my life.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:50 PM   #11
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I lived in a neighborhood where my kids would have a great school and bought property in the country. About 2 hours away. Now considering selling that country place and retiring further away from the crowds.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:10 PM   #12
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Interesting. Keep them coming!
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:19 PM   #13
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I left the city mess and bought some land. House is currently under construction and will be living out there as soon as it finished
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:29 PM   #14
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:33 PM   #15
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Buy as much land as you can safely afford while staying in your current home. That way you have a place on the weekends to get away and also a place to live when your wife kicks you out.
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Old 05-11-2018, 12:15 AM   #16
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Is the larger land already ag exempt or will you need to establish the exemption?

Land that isn't ag exempt will eat you up with prop taxes.

Not to go "off the rails" here...........
But, that's why you don't "own," anything...........
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:37 AM   #17
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:07 AM   #18
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You’re trying to check a few of the boxes and be happy with it.

Make a list.

Which one of the options checks more of your boxes?


I say B, but where we are it isn’t cheaper further out, but we’re just going to go on and do it and live there.
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:31 AM   #19
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I say A. In 30 years when you want to retire your "small property" will probably be surrounded by neighborhoods. At that time it will likely be worth at least twice what you paid for it. Sell it and move as far away as you'd like. My wife and I were in the same spot 3 years ago. We bought a small piece in the country. Built on it. Been living here for 2 years. I wish I did it sooner. I have a 120 yard archery range, I pee off the back patio, hunt down by the creek and can't see a neighbor in any direction. My kids run around catching critters and picking dewberries. I am Blessed and thankful. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:22 AM   #20
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A for me as well. I moved from the country, to the city, and back to the country. I wouldnt trade that for anything. Living in the city was miserable for me. But if it doesnt bother you, then B may be the answer. I just got tired of always having to pack up and head out for the weekend and then back to the dreaded city on Sunday or early Monday morning. Been there done that not gonna do it again. Nothing beats the peace and quiet in the country. But I will say this, all land is an investment. In 10 years I suspect our place will be worth a bit more than we paid and if we wanted could likely sell and go buy bigger at that time.

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Old 05-11-2018, 06:43 AM   #21
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with the growth in every direction out there won't be out there in 30 yrs, or 10........I'm on 30 acres and in a couple of yrs the north dallas tollway will be about 5 miles from me....my last place was on 5 acres in Frisco on Preston rd, which was hwy 289.....nice and quiet, surrounded by thousands of acres of open land I hunted and we rode our horses.....go by it now.....6 lane road, more like a freeway.....pool store across the road...new subdivisions.....house is still there and my boot is still on the fence post.....at one time it was way out there
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Old 05-11-2018, 06:52 AM   #22
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Buy a bigger chunk of land and cattle lease enough of it during the summer to keep or get an ag exempt. I have been looking at a 41 acre patch about an hour from me, it is in a river bottom and flood plain, but got a real nice pecan grove on it and only 10% minerals.

I can tell you something else, dont come on here and say how much an acre it is, as they is plenty of land guru's on here that will say you are paying too much or this or that. If you like it and can afford it, get it.
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:05 AM   #23
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Bought our place in the country in '92. Moved here in '99. Only regret is not doing it sooner. Nothing like the peace and quiet. Our kids loved it growing up away from the rat race and have already said they are going to keep it through their generation. Can't see or hear neighbors from the house. I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:07 AM   #24
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I would go with B if you can do that and stay in the house you’re happy in. Nobody has ever said I wish i bought less land. I would buy the most acreage I could afford within 1 1/2 of me and slowly work at improving it and eventually build a house on it
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:09 AM   #25
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:11 AM   #26
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I went with A give that choice 8 years ago. Smaller acreage, but close to town. We bow hunt, kids raise 4H steer projects, animals galore here. They have a more rural life, but the amenities of town are 5 miles away. Always on the lookout for a land deal further out for when the kids graduate. Being close in, with highly sought acreage, my place increases in value twice or three times as fast that land way out. That will fund the move down the road. Finally, maintaining a larger weekend place would be next to impossible with our schedules. A deer lease much bigger than what I could buy makes much more sense at this stage on life. Zero commitment.

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Old 05-11-2018, 07:11 AM   #27
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We just recently did option A. We bought a nice house in the country on 3 acres. Sure I wanted 50 plus but we wanted out of the city. Our place backs up to lots if pasture land so it feels much bigger. We no longer have any animal restrictions so momma gets to have chickens, goats etc. I still plan to buy land in the future but we are happy in our decision. Good luck to you in whichever route you go!
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:15 AM   #28
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You did not really say what you meant in terms of less or more. Is less 10 acres or 50? Personally I would do the larger land myself. I see people all the time that move to the "country" and get 10 acres...might as well stay in town. Personally in my opinion anything less than 50 acres really is not big enough to do anything with.

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Old 05-11-2018, 07:25 AM   #29
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:30 AM   #30
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:36 AM   #31
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Definitely B. I just did that. I'm 28 and my wife and I just closed on 70 acres about 1 hour 45 minutes from the house. Couldn't really afford much around here where we could still get to our jobs in a reasonable amount of time, so we went north of the Red River. Found out prices were much better there and taxes are insanely cheap as well. Would rather have it to get away from the concrete city and sell it down the line to retire on a big place.
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:48 AM   #32
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:53 AM   #33
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How does 28 acres of timber land on a state highway with 3 sides bordering Davy Crockett National Forest that is about an hour and 15 minutes from Tyler sound?
Bigger is not always better if you get the right place. Less land to take care of and pay taxes on with many thousands of acres to use.
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:54 AM   #34
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Enjoy your younger years on the said property but at the same time think about what you want and will be able to take care of in your elder years. I see some of the older folks around here that are overwhelmed when they can't take care of the property any longer.

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Old 05-11-2018, 07:56 AM   #35
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I went with 3.5 hours away and I’m out here every other weekend...
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Old 05-11-2018, 08:01 AM   #36
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B

I'm fortunate enough my grandparents bought 200 acres that's 101 miles from the house 40 years ago.

But, wife and I bought 2 on lake limestone in January to build on.

They ain't making anymore dirt

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Old 05-11-2018, 08:24 AM   #37
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Man, you guys are making it tough! Lol this has basically been the “battle” between the wife and I.

When I say small acreage and build a house, I’m talking 5-10 acres. That’s about the max I can afford around here and still build a suitable home. I can drive an hour in 3 directions and buy three times that with the same money, but I wouldn’t be building a house so if we were looking at a bigger chunk it would be around 50 acres. Tough decisions for sure
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Old 05-11-2018, 08:26 AM   #38
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Old 05-11-2018, 08:26 AM   #39
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I was in your shoes about a year ago. We decided option C, which is move near public land, and save the expense of having to maintain land, maintain tractors, pay taxes etc...on it. All the outdoors you can enjoy, for free.

We are in the process of moving somewhere out west. However, in your case, in east Texas, there is tons of public land between SHNF and DCNF.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:22 AM   #40
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I was in your shoes about a year ago. We decided option C, which is move near public land, and save the expense of having to maintain land, maintain tractors, pay taxes etc...on it. All the outdoors you can enjoy, for free.

We are in the process of moving somewhere out west. However, in your case, in east Texas, there is tons of public land between SHNF and DCNF.
Public land is nice, but nothing like owning your own. Just driving in the gates gives me a child on christmas day feeling. I'm sure it will wear off eventually and it's not fun writting the checks but it is a piece of dirt with my name on it. When I was a teenager we lived on a big ranch that someone else owned and I had 1,000s of other family friend land to roam on. But it wasn't ours, I always had to worry about what the landowner/boss would say if I made ruts or did something wrong. Same with a lease nowadays. On my land I do as i please and come and go as I please. No restrictions, and best of all if one of these days my girls have families of their own I can maybe take my grandkids out there to teach them the outdoors.

Owning land isn't for everyone and has different meanings for everyone. From where I came from as a kid I never really thought that I would own my own land, it's been a true blessing!

OP with all that said, I would still buy as big as you can afford where you can easily enjoy it. If you don't have children yet take that into consideration because they will def change things financially but especially time wise once they get active.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:23 AM   #41
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I don't think there is a right or wrong answer here. You will just need to weigh the pros and cons for your situation and family. At least you are on the right track by thinking about investing in some land.

As for my situation, I bought some rural property in Cherokee Co. years ago with the full intention of building on the place at retirement. However, as we got older and wiser, it became apparent that living in a remote setting late in life may not be the best move for us. Therefore we settled in Tyler, close to doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, and supermarkets, yet only a hour's drive from our rural property. We think we have the best of both worlds now. Since we have a small living quarters on the property, and are retired, we can spend as much time there as we desire but are not forced to remain there or commute back and forth during times of illness or other needs that require us to be close to "civilization".
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:30 AM   #42
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We chose door number 2 years ago. It was the right decision for us. As someone stated, it was also important to us to keep the kids in good schools.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:39 AM   #43
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I would go with option A and get something that you and the family can enjoy everyday. Sure, it would be nice to have a large place and go out there all the time, but life has a way of getting busy and all of the sudden you haven't been out to your place in a month or two. Buy something you can enjoy all the time right now versus something you buy now and then have to wait 30 years to retire on.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:41 AM   #44
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i bought smaller tract 5 years ago, had option to buy two additional tracts and didn't. Today price has doubled, and one of my new neighbors is a complete jerk. I can't think about my property without thinking about the missed opportunity

My Dad once told me " If you like the view, you better buy it, because it won't stay that way."
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:43 AM   #45
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I'd rather live on 5 acres than own 75 acres two hours away.

If you're talking large acreage, then I'd rather live in town and have a big place within a few hours.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:47 AM   #46
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Owning a larger piece of land is probably better, since the larger it is the better it will be to lease out for grazing. In east Texas, you can't just let land set, or you will lose to being overgrown in just a couple of years. While land and peace and quiet are great, it takes a LOT of work and money. A LOT of work.... A LOT of money...
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:48 AM   #47
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A. If you have kids under 16. I've done both. The idyllic view of having a place in the country (mine is 89 miles door to gate) is fine. The reality is if you have kids, the weekends can get really busy with sports, activities etc, and you don't really enjoy it the amount of time you think you will.

I'm under contract to sell my place, its been a great 12 years. We hunted/fished/rode 4 wheelers and had a blast. However, we didn't use it near as much as I had hoped. All three of my sons played sports. One also shot competitive shotgun (made AA) in high school. Our weekends were busy.

In order to make the land purchase more palatable, I sold 6 acres with a great house, pond, barn to make a move to another great house on 1.5 acres. Great schools, neighbors, we're still in the house today.

However, not a day goes by that I don't regret selling the original place. Why? I enjoyed it every, single day. After work, being able to dink around the barn, fish for 30 minutes or two hours, ride 4 wheelers, raise two cows that were pets. Time is valuable, and if you have the opportunity to daily live in a great environment, do it.

There will always be a chance to get away, either via lease or vacation.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:50 AM   #48
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I read the first few and I guess I am different. I would never live in a neighborhood again. I know never say never. I can't stand barking dogs. I don't want to hear your lawnmower. People, congestion, traffic, pollution, etc. There is now way I would stay. We moved out of the city 19 years ago and have loved it every second. I look back and wonder how I lived in the city for the first 20 years of my life.
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:02 AM   #49
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Buy bigger. That way when you do get to go you can work 20+ hours a day instead of only working 12 hrs a day on a smaller tract of land.
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:06 AM   #50
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First off I would definitely stay under 1.5 hours max. I would choose option B only if you plan on keeping the place, building it up and retiring out there once the kids are gone
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